Confirmed with Link: [CHI/VAN] Gustav Forsling traded for Adam Clendening

[WetcoastOrca]

You have a pre-determined position and criticize every move, that's how.

All that can be said about this trade is: it may or may not turn out. We don't know.

We've acquired a young player who may or may not fill a hole. We gave away a player that may or may not play in the league.

To suggest that this is a bad move is evidence of bias.

Don't we all cheer for the same team? I don't understand this obsession some people have with bashing everything the team does. Gillis is gone, get over it.

Agree 100%!
People who criticize every single move are just being biased. Like some moves and dislike others? That I can understand. The guys who complain about everything are the guys I use the ignore feature on.

 

[Jay Cee]

Weber is a junk player- waiver bait.

If that is the upside of Clendening I will be disappointed. Players like that only are useful long term NHL players if they reach their full potential. Always nervous of these "offensive specialist" pickups. At least it seems better than the stabs Gillis took at it, but not by much. His yearly hail mary for a offensive specialist usually was saving someone only momentarily from the NHL trash heap.

 

[WTG]

Why are people here complaining?

Forsling's best case scenario is Clendenning. If we traded another asset for Clendenning we would have too much offensive defenseman in our system. So Benning traded the offensive defenseman with the biggest question mark and traded him for a guy who already established he is ready for the NHL. Yet people complain?

 

[Pip]

Why are people here complaining?

Forsling's best case scenario is Clendenning. If we traded another asset for Clendenning we would have too much offensive defenseman in our system. So Benning traded the offensive defenseman with the biggest question mark and traded him for a guy who already established he is ready for the NHL. Yet people complain?

Both Clendening and Forsling have lots of question marks.

 

[WTG]

Both Clendening and Forsling have lots of question marks.

Clendenning has less of a question marks. At least Clendenning shown he can put up very good points in the AHL, and shown he is ready for the NHL. Forsling could always still be a bust. Not like the skill ceiling is that much higher for Forsling than Clendenning anyway they are basically the same player.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Clendenning has less of a question marks. At least Clendenning shown he can put up very good points in the AHL, and shown he is ready for the NHL. Forsling could always still be a bust. Not like the skill ceiling is that much higher for Forsling than Clendenning anyway they are basically the same player.

Clendenning was the Hawks fourth ranked prospect on HF. People are really underestimating how good he is.

 

[Pip]

Clendenning has less of a question marks. At least Clendenning shown he can put up very good points in the AHL, and shown he is ready for the NHL. Forsling could always still be a bust. Not like the skill ceiling is that much higher for Forsling than Clendenning anyway they are basically the same player.

I don't mind this trade, and I'm trying to be optimistic about Clendening, but I think you're understating the risk associated with him.

He has a very small amount of time to crack our roster or else the waiver issue comes into play, so he has less time to deal with his issues. Also, I'm sure the Hawks have done all they can to improve his defensive play and other deficiencies so I'm not sure how much we can help him in such a short amount of time.

Forsling has many issues (strength, first step, defense etc) but he is only 18 years old and has many years to deal with these issues, and that's within a quality organization that will do everything they can to help him.

 

[Jay Cee]

I don't mind this trade, and I'm trying to be optimistic about Clendening, but I think you're understating the risk associated with him.

He has a very small amount of time to crack our roster or else the waiver issue comes into play, so he has less time to deal with his issues. Also, I'm sure the Hawks have done all they can to improve his defensive play and other deficiencies so I'm not sure how much we can help him in such a short amount of time.

Forsling has many issues (strength, first step, defense etc) but he is only 18 years old and has many years to deal with these issues, and that's within a quality organization that will do everything they can to help him.

That's fair, but I think many are overstating the risk in the trade.

I think it is a pretty good bet to make. Could it completely back fire? Sure trading any young player could. We have had lots of feint hope with later round picks though, especially of the small offensive dman variety and they have mostly come and gone. Forsling looks fine, and so does Clendening. Could Forsling become a far greater player? Maybe, doubt it. I could also see a scenario where he could be a bit better player but still not an NHL regular. I guess you just trust that the GM is doing the right thing?

 

[Peter Griffin]

So if we move Corrado for Jordan Schroeder that would be good asset management?

No because that is a very silly comparison.

It's good drafting, not good asset management.

Good drafting is good asset management, how can you not see that? If Benning offered Chicago this years' 5th round pick for Clendening Bowman would hang up laughing at him. But since Benning and Co. made a shrewd pick with last years' 5th round pick they were able to transform a recent 5th round pick into a player who's value is likely much higher than a 5th round pick.

 

[WTG]

I don't mind this trade, and I'm trying to be optimistic about Clendening, but I think you're understating the risk associated with him.

He has a very small amount of time to crack our roster or else the waiver issue comes into play, so he has less time to deal with his issues. Also, I'm sure the Hawks have done all they can to improve his defensive play and other deficiencies so I'm not sure how much we can help him in such a short amount of time.

Forsling has many issues (strength, first step, defense etc) but he is only 18 years old and has many years to deal with these issues, and that's within a quality organization that will do everything they can to help him.

I understand that aspect.

Still he has a very very good shot at cracking this roster. Not like our star studed line up of Sbisa, Stanton, Weber is that hard to crack anyway. Even if he is a bit of an investment like Vey we could always still send Corrado down to cook a little longer in the AHL. I'm all for having players develop even if they aren't the best right now give them some experience and time to grow into the role.

Sick of all the speculation about this player though. I want to see him play on sunday!

 

[Tiranis]

Clendenning was the Hawks fourth ranked prospect on HF. People are really underestimating how good he is.

Both Morin and Pirri were also ranked highly by HF. That says more about their rankings and the unpredictability of prospects. Considering how much derision they get for them, it's not something that should be brought up in any reasonable conversation on this forum.

 

[CherryToke]

Why are people here complaining?

Forsling's best case scenario is Clendenning. If we traded another asset for Clendenning we would have too much offensive defenseman in our system. So Benning traded the offensive defenseman with the biggest question mark and traded him for a guy who already established he is ready for the NHL. Yet people complain?

I only see one irrational person complaining. everyone else recognizes this as a good move because it is a good move.

 

[Pip]

No because that is a very silly comparison.



Good drafting is good asset management, how can you not see that? If Benning offered Chicago this years' 5th round pick for Clendening Bowman would hang up laughing at him. But since Benning and Co. made a shrewd pick with last years' 5th round pick they were able to transform a recent 5th round pick into a player who's value is likely much higher than a 5th round pick.

Good drafting is good asset management sure. You're taking a relatively low value asset and turning into a player worth more.

Trading that player isn't necessarily good asset management. That's all I'm saying.

 

[VanJack]

Weber is a junk player- waiver bait.

If that is the upside of Clendening I will be disappointed. Players like that only are useful long term NHL players if they reach their full potential. Always nervous of these "offensive specialist" pickups. At least it seems better than the stabs Gillis took at it, but not by much. His yearly hail mary for a offensive specialist usually was saving someone only momentarily from the NHL trash heap.

When was the last time the Hawks actually gave up an impact prospect?....remember everyone was saying how good Viktor Stalberg was going to be when he was in the Hawks lineup...now in the minors...they can afford to be patient with Forsling....will be interesting to track to careers of the two players.

 

[Jay Cee]

When was the last time the Hawks actually gave up an impact prospect?....remember everyone was saying how good Viktor Stalberg was going to be when he was in the Hawks lineup...now in the minors...they can afford to be patient with Forsling....will be interesting to track to careers of the two players.

Yup, I think Scotty Bowman is the best there is at hockey, and that definitely factored into my response. I am nervous about our "talent evaluator" vs theirs and I don't like the skillset more generally speaking.

I hope Benning can hit the jackpot on a rare small dman who can make it in this type of role but Forsling still doesn't look like a sure thing or an NHL gem. It is all up in the air, and that shouldn't be lost in this trade like I think it has been.

 

[Jay Cee]

Also, to answer your question, Stanton seemed to me like a hard guy to give up for Chicago. But then again, he seemed a better fit for Torts than Willie D or it was simply on year vs off?

 

[PG Canuck]

Yup, I think Scotty Bowman is the best there is at hockey, and that definitely factored into my response. I am nervous about our "talent evaluator" vs theirs and I don't like the skillset more generally speaking.

I hope Benning can hit the jackpot on a rare small dman who can make it in this type of role but Forsling still doesn't look like a sure thing or an NHL gem. It is all up in the air, and that shouldn't be lost in this trade like I think it has been.

Clendening is also eligible for waivers next year, so maybe the Hawks weren't willing to commit to him as a guaranteed starter in regards to their six defenders. CHI has other defensemen projecting like, or better than Clendening. It could just be more of a case where CHI wanted to get something for Clendening. Adding Forsling, gives them another 5ish years of development in a defensemen. Pretty smart, I think.

 

[sketch22]

Clendening is also eligible for waivers next year, so maybe the Hawks weren't willing to commit to him as a guaranteed starter in regards to their six defenders. CHI has other defensemen projecting like, or better than Clendening. It could just be more of a case where CHI wanted to get something for Clendening. Adding Forsling, gives them another 5ish years of development in a defensemen. Pretty smart, I think.

This is exactly right. Between TvR making the team as a rookie, Pokka being brought in as part of the Leddy trade, and Runblad improving, Clendening's chance of making the team full time this season or next were slim.

 

[IntangiBo]

Lol, Chicago HF Clendening trade thread: 85 posts.

Canucks HF, 642 posts.


Houston, we have a problem.

 

[WTG]

lol

Basically Chicago is like "cool we got a decent prospect I like this"

Vancouver fans are like "PANIC! WHAT THE **** BENNING"

 

[ReillyO]

clensy

His nickname with the Hogs was Clendo.

 

[PG Canuck]

Lol, Chicago HF Clendening trade thread: 85 posts.

Canucks HF, 642 posts.


Houston, we have a problem.

Before the trade, there were around 70 members viewing HFVan. Two minutes after the trade went down, there were 130 members viewing HFVan.

 

[Evolu7ion]

We received the better player who is much closer to being a full time contributor at the NHL level. JB has really impressed me with this deal.

 

[NoShowWilly]

His nickname with the Hogs was Clendo.

i was kidding about how bad nicknames are. Clendo makes sense. terrible

 

[NuxFan09]

We received the better player who is much closer to being a full time contributor at the NHL level. JB has really impressed me with this deal.

That's it. Case dismissed! Corey Pronman said Adam Clendening is the better player.