Confirmed Signing with Link: [CHI] Seth Jones signs extension with the Blackhawks (8 years, $9.5M AAV)

[The Macho King]

Lolol thos dude leveraged playing a lot of minutes in a first round game two seasons ago into 80 million bucks.

This is a terrible contract jesus.

 

[SuterHaglshev]

My opinion:

f*** it Seth Jones is a boss.

He's the real deal. All these cybermetrics stating Seth isn't the part. I'm with Stan on the overpayment. Stan is trying to keep the window of: Kane, Kubalik, Kalynuk, Debrincat, and Jones open. I left Toews out. When his salary is off the books Jones contract is palatable. And keeping Kane will be 7 million a year.

It's overpayment but in 2026 when Seth Jones is in Arizona with salary retention it will be a moot point.

Stan, needs to take on the McDonough role for the Blackhawks. Stan can get a GM from a small market that has some Billy Bean in him. We need a GM that has rapport and is tight with money. Stan should be offering Jarmmo a job in Chicago.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Kane isn't the same player he was 3 years ago this year was a respectable year but he is declining .
Losing Kane in 2 years at 36 years old isn't a loss. Put your emotions aside and start looking at the big picture. The toews Kane Era is coming to a end.

I see people complaining that we just gave a26 year old top 4 d man 9 million
But now want to give toews and kane 10 plus million at 36 years old ? Lol

Nobody is giving Toews anything he is gone.

Will Kane score 110 again? Maybe not but the past two seasons he was on pace for 97 points...if he is still producing like that in two years you think he going to take a pay cut to make as much as Hymen? Hall?

Toews may be done but Kane has alot left in the tank

 

[varano]

Terrible

 

[Taylorst]

Nobody is giving Toews anything he is gone.

Will Kane score 110 again? Maybe not but the past two seasons he was on pace for 97 points...if he is still producing like that in two years you think he going to take a pay cut to make as much as Hymen? Hall?

Toews may be done but Kane has alot left in the tank

See your using fuzzy math to try and justify a ridiculous argument. Kane will be 36 when his contract expires , yes he has shown down over the past 2 seasons . In a salary cap Era what team is going to shovel out 10 plus million to a 36 year old who is declining.?

Chicago's loyalty will only go so far , was Crawford resigned NO I Getnit he had concussion injuries ok but he came back and still played great .

Kane contract expires in 2 years , Chicago will have many of its younger players like cat as a example to resign , kanes age will be a huge factor in letting him walk or paying him 4 million. Kane would have to over the next 2nseasons put up monster number to convince any organization to throw 10 million his way.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

See your using fuzzy math to try and justify a ridiculous argument. Kane will be 36 when his contract expires , yes he has shown down over the past 2 seasons . In a salary cap Era what team is going to shovel out 10 plus million to a 36 year old who is declining.?

Chicago's loyalty will only go so far , was Crawford resigned NO I Getnit he had concussion injuries ok but he came back and still played great .

Kane contract expires in 2 years , Chicago will have many of its younger players like cat as a example to resign , kanes age will be a huge factor in letting him walk or paying him 4 million. Kane would have to over the next 2nseasons put up monster number to convince any organization to throw 10 million his way.

First of all he will be 34 when his deal is up, not 36.

You obviously aren't aware of the deals GMs give out to free agents.

Let's say Kane does decline more where he is only a 90 point forward and not the 96-98 point forward....by the time his contract is up you think he is only going to get 4 million from the Hawks? Does that make Toews a league minimum player?

I'm not saying give Kane 4,5,6,7 years at 10 million but on a 1-3 year deal he would and should easily get that from the Hawks.

I think this all moot though as if Kane wants to stay in Chicago he signs an extension next Summer

 

[Taylorst]

First of all he will be 34 when his deal is up, not 36.

You obviously aren't aware of the deals GMs give out to free agents.

Let's say Kane does decline more where he is only a 90 point forward and not the 96-98 point forward....by the time his contract is up you think he is only going to get 4 million from the Hawks? Does that make Toews a league minimum player?

I'm not saying give Kane 4,5,6,7 years at 10 million but on a 1-3 year deal he would and should easily get that from the Hawks.

I think this all moot though as if Kane wants to stay in Chicago he signs an extension next Summer

No kane will be 36 . Plus Kane hasn't put up 90 plus points in 2 years . This year there was a obvious decline in his play .

I'm not trying to bad mouth him. I'm merely pointing out my obvious facts that people need to realize and understand. Chicago won't be in any position to throw big bucks in a salary cap Era with numerous other contracts to resign or offer.

Kane won't be putting up 90 plus points and no team is going to mortgage there future giving him that kind of money or even commit to anything over 1 year.
Ask yourself this what teams would Kane be open to , how long does he want or will he except a 1 year deal maybe 2 but I highly doubt that at 10 plus million.

It's not going to happen, Kane will either have to except half of his current salary and a shorter term contract .

If Kane was younger by 3 or 4 years it would be a different story but age , and a flat cap are against him.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

No kane will be 36 . Plus Kane hasn't put up 90 plus points in 2 years . This year there was a obvious decline in his play .

I'm not trying to bad mouth him. I'm merely pointing out my obvious facts that people need to realize and understand. Chicago won't be in any position to throw big bucks in a salary cap Era with numerous other contracts to resign or offer.

Kane won't be putting up 90 plus points and no team is going to mortgage there future giving him that kind of money or even commit to anything over 1 year.
Ask yourself this what teams would Kane be open to , how long does he want or will he except a 1 year deal maybe 2 but I highly doubt that at 10 plus million.

It's not going to happen, Kane will either have to except half of his current salary and a shorter term contract .

If Kane was younger by 3 or 4 years it would be a different story but age , and a flat cap are against him.

I think you are just trolling me now.

Kane is 32 right now so in two years when his deal is up he will be 34.

Blackhawks have no big contracts coming up, Cat already makes six million he will get a raise but not much.

Dach has great potential but that is all it is right now he isn't getting big money.

Jonathan Toews and the contract of Doom will be gone which is 10.5 million of cap space right there and two years from now the cap could be on the rise again anyway.

If you think Kane if he stays at his current level of a top 10 scorer in the league (tie for 5th 2021) you are dreaming.

Let's see if Ovechkin takes a 50% discount in a few days

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

I gotta say after having some time to chew on this, i can't wait to see Jones out there with Patty Kane and the other skilled guys the Hawks have.

The contract isn't my problem. All i care about is entertainment and this should be a great fit for that.

Chicago should be back in the playoff mix again.

 

[Taylorst]

I think you are just trolling me now.

Kane is 32 right now so in two years when his deal is up he will be 34.

Blackhawks have no big contracts coming up, Cat already makes six million he will get a raise but not much.

Dach has great potential but that is all it is right now he isn't getting big money.

Jonathan Toews and the contract of Doom will be gone which is 10.5 million of cap space right there and two years from now the cap could be on the rise again anyway.

If you think Kane if he stays at his current level of a top 10 scorer in the league (tie for 5th 2021) you are dreaming.

Let's see if Ovechkin takes a 50% discount in a few days

Yeah I hit 36 by accident, I meant he turns 35 years old right as the season gets underway.

Chicago will have numerous contracts to deal with . Yes cat will be up for a possible raise how much depends .

Kanes age , the flat cap and yes kaner is at the tail end of a great career.

I guess in 2 years we will find out who was right.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I like this deal, and I like what the Hawks have been doing recently.

They are recognizing the end of an era, and found a stud on the backend to build around.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Yeah I hit 36 by accident, I meant he turns 35 years old right as the season gets underway.

Chicago will have numerous contracts to deal with . Yes cat will be up for a possible raise how much depends .

Kanes age , the flat cap and yes kaner is at the tail end of a great career.

I guess in 2 years we will find out who was right.

I mean I think he will sign an extension next Summer (if he wants to stay) and I guarantee it for over 4 million per

 

[ClydeLee]

I mean I think he will sign an extension next Summer (if he wants to stay) and I guarantee it for over 4 million per

Not sure why you think he'd sign early for sure. He and Toews always had the agent working them together and that's not likely this case. So I don't think there team would feel the need to rush the deal ahead now.

 

[Taylorst]

I mean I think he will sign an extension next Summer (if he wants to stay) and I guarantee it for over 4 million per

That depends, 4 million would be a good starting point , however my point was I don't see chicago giving him 10 plus million or any other team and the term will be a huge factor maybe a 2 or 3 year deal tops but then it comes down to salary.

I think our differences are money and term . While I never said kane isn't good I'm just pointing out his age , mileage on his body and this season it was more noticeable his drop in play . 15 goals in 56 games was a steep drop for him. Assists those numbers can be deceiving a bit.

 

[Taylorst]

Not sure why you think he'd sign early for sure. He and Toews always had the agent working them together and that's not likely this case. So I don't think there team would feel the need to rush the deal ahead now.

I think toews retires . His injury is a immune system which is very serious and Stan just pumped the brakes on toews playing this year .

I don't see kaner being offered a massive contract neither by chicago. Looking at the teams future resignings and needs Seth Jones salary is basically Keith's salary plus Shaws once he comes off the books after this season covering his salary.

Seabrook contract is 3 more years .

 

[CanadienShark]

No kane will be 36 . Plus Kane hasn't put up 90 plus points in 2 years . This year there was a obvious decline in his play .

I'm not trying to bad mouth him. I'm merely pointing out my obvious facts that people need to realize and understand. Chicago won't be in any position to throw big bucks in a salary cap Era with numerous other contracts to resign or offer.

Kane won't be putting up 90 plus points and no team is going to mortgage there future giving him that kind of money or even commit to anything over 1 year.
Ask yourself this what teams would Kane be open to , how long does he want or will he except a 1 year deal maybe 2 but I highly doubt that at 10 plus million.

It's not going to happen, Kane will either have to except half of his current salary and a shorter term contract .

If Kane was younger by 3 or 4 years it would be a different story but age , and a flat cap are against him.

No, Kane will be 34. He's 32 now. He has two seasons remaining. So exactly two years from now, he'll be 34.

 

[Taylorst]

No, Kane will be 34. He's 32 now. He has two seasons remaining. So exactly two years from now, he'll be 34.

He turns 33 in November. Which means if he gets a new contract he will be turning 35 right when the season gets underway november. That's a small but critical detail you left out.

 

[CanadienShark]

He turns 33 in November. Which means if he gets a new contract he will be turning 35 right when the season gets underway november. That's a small but critical detail you left out.

But the whole thing was that Kane will be 34 when his deal expires. The discussion was never about when his next deal starts. So no... I didn't leave out any details.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Not sure why you think he'd sign early for sure. He and Toews always had the agent working them together and that's not likely this case. So I don't think there team would feel the need to rush the deal ahead now.

Because most players sign early and don't make it to market

 

[ClydeLee]

Because most players sign early and don't make it to market

Do most 33 year olds sign extensions before their ufa year? I dont think so. What 27 year olds do or not shouldn't be apart of your slice of what to expect there.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

That depends, 4 million would be a good starting point , however my point was I don't see chicago giving him 10 plus million or any other team and the term will be a huge factor maybe a 2 or 3 year deal tops but then it comes down to salary.

I think our differences are money and term . While I never said kane isn't good I'm just pointing out his age , mileage on his body and this season it was more noticeable his drop in play . 15 goals in 56 games was a steep drop for him. Assists those numbers can be deceiving a bit.

I never said Kane would get a long term deal though it wouldn't surprise me if some team offered him 4 or 5 years)

But if his play keeps up and there is no reason to think it won't with the improvements in the roster you better believe he getting big money.

Maybe not 10 million but it would be close...he will not make less than Hymen

 

[Arto Kilponen]

Probably explained in this thread, but what does it mean that a player signs an extension when he can't sign an extension?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Losing Kane in 2 years at 36 years old isn't a loss.

Kane will be 34 in 2 years ,, not 36

 

[vandymeer13]

Horrible contract man bowman sucks ass. At least he traded boqvist

 

[Taylorst]

But the whole thing was that Kane will be 34 when his deal expires. The discussion was never about when his next deal starts. So no... I didn't leave out any details.

Yeah you did because he turns 35 right as the new season starts thats a very important detail. Especially if considering any new deal with term. His new contract would effectively start less than a month before he turns 35.