Confirmed Trade: [CHI/PIT] Sam Lafferty for Alex Nylander

[HogtownSabresfan]

He does. But that is totally up to him which is the conundrum. Hawks were done trying and were happy to move on from him. He needs something to motivate him so good luck finding what that is.

Nylander is 23 and still not advancing much. His value shrinks every year as he doesn't move the needle even in the AHL. He's KHL bound soon to make some money or he'll grab a few years in Sweden or Germany for some fun. He doesn't have drive to succeed in the NHL and his talent isn't enough to overcome that. He's really down to another year or two to prove it in NA.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

In less than a month, Nylander turns 24, he was drafted 6 years ago this summer.

2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 of training camps, first years the rookie / prospect camps,
summer training, the development during seasons...etc. etc.

Hey, anything can still happen and i'll be one of the first to congratulate him here if he does break out
in the NHL, but.....also, he might have peaked at 17.

2015-2016 (draft) season u20, u18 international games + OHL combined

35 goals, 73 assists, 108 points, +23, with 28 penalty minutes.

After that, 300+ pro games without much of development/progress

 

[Jerkbait]

Two questions.

1. What player in the Pens lineup do you think Lafferty would have been playing over if he were still on the roster?
2. Which team won that game again?



Again...this is utterly irrelevant. The most charitable possible interpretation of Lafferty's skill set is that he's a moderately physical fourth line plugger. Why would his mere presence on the roster stop any other team from taking liberties with the Pens' players? The Pens have had tons of rough-and-tumble guys on the team over the years and it has never, ever stopped other teams from taking cheap shots on their players. Can you describe any concrete way in which having Lafferty in the lineup would rectify this situation?

1. Zucker , Simon, fill in for injury .
2. Pittsburgh has been pushed around and beaten by bigger more physical teams in the last few playoffs. Having someone who is willing to hit, play a chippy game and push back is awfully important come playoff time. Everything Nylander won't do. He is more like a poor man's Kapanen and we see how thats working out right When letting is your lost physical D man your in trouble back there. You are also depending on Boyle to be your enforcer.....I would almost guarantee you the pens add grit before the deadline.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Is this really an issue?

If both fan bases are happy, who friggin cares?

It’s like trading a roll of toilet paper for a urinal mint.

 

[deathtouchtrample]

2. Pittsburgh has been pushed around and beaten by bigger more physical teams in the last few playoffs. Having someone who is willing to hit, play a chippy game and push back is awfully important come playoff time. Everything Nylander won't do. He is more like a poor man's Kapanen and we see how thats working out right When letting is your lost physical D man your in trouble back there. You are also depending on Boyle to be your enforcer.....I would almost guarantee you the pens add grit before the deadline.

hey man I forget. Is your bit just to totally ignore the b2b years, where we beat the physical teams by icing literally no one tough or who could fight and out skilling them or do you just lie and say they didn’t play any physical teams those years.

 

[Jerkbait]

hey man I forget. Is your bit just to totally ignore the b2b years, where we beat the physical teams by icing literally no one tough or who could fight and out skilling them or do you just lie and say they didn’t play any physical teams those years.

The game has changed. This isn't 2016 anymore. An aging core and no physical options led to some very early playoff exits ( combined with crap goaltending). The obvious general consensus was the pens were soft and got pushed around quite easily. Bigger D were successful is shutting down crosny and Jake. Just look at the teams that have won since the penguins. Washington, bigger more physical. St Louis, bigger more physical, tampa better all round and can play physical. Teams like Montreal, had great playoff success. NYI ....etc....so while you can live in the past , the rest live in the present.

 

[Flying Dego]

Is this really an issue?

If both fan bases are happy, who friggin cares?

It’s like trading a roll of toilet paper for a urinal mint.

This is literally the right take. Lafferty is a nothing player that was a negative here in Pittsburgh. If he looks good on a bad hawks team? Great.

Not one Penguins fan cares about Nylander doing a thing in the NHL. Actually the only ones who seem to care are fans of teams that spent effort into developing or using assets on him.

 

[Beauner]

1. Zucker , Simon, fill in for injury .
2. Pittsburgh has been pushed around and beaten by bigger more physical teams in the last few playoffs. Having someone who is willing to hit, play a chippy game and push back is awfully important come playoff time. Everything Nylander won't do. He is more like a poor man's Kapanen and we see how thats working out right When letting is your lost physical D man your in trouble back there. You are also depending on Boyle to be your enforcer.....I would almost guarantee you the pens add grit before the deadline.

There is not a snowball's chance Lafferty would ever be playing over Zucker. Ever.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

This is literally the right take. Lafferty is a nothing player that was a negative here in Pittsburgh. If he looks good on a bad hawks team? Great.

Not one Penguins fan cares about Nylander doing a thing in the NHL. Actually the only ones who seem to care are fans of teams that spent effort into developing or using assets on him.

It’s an ego/ entitlement thing.

Hawks fans want to win every single trade considering Bowman lost every trade he made.

I don’t see Pens fans pumping the tires on Nylander here and pretty much see him for what he is, and have been very astute in pointing out what Lafferty does good (skates fast) while also pointing out they don’t need him.

It’s a “meh” trade that didn’t need 10+ pages.

 

[BillyOcean]

Sam Lafferty is really bad and I'm glad he's not on the penguins. Has he scored a goal yet?

 

[Jerkbait]

There is not a snowball's chance Lafferty would ever be playing over Zucker. Ever.

Haha obviously you haven't seen zucker play this year. May have something to do with the inflated salary. Again point is Lafferty fills a niche that few penguin forwards can fill. The void becomes even more apparent in the playoffs.

 

[AdvancedPressure]

Can Nylander be revived on the Pens, or is he too far gone as a bust?

 

[Beauner]

Haha obviously you haven't seen zucker play this year. May have something to do with the inflated salary. Again point is Lafferty fills a niche that few penguin forwards can fill. The void becomes even more apparent in the playoffs.

this has to be a joke. I legitimately cannot comprehend someone actually having the opinion that Sam lafferty would be a better option, at any time, over Zucker.

 

[Jerkbait]

this has to be a joke. I legitimately cannot comprehend someone actually having the opinion that Sam lafferty would be a better option, at any time, over Zucker.

Well one situation is if your against the cap and simply cant afford a soft overpriced winger who came as first line player and plays like a 4th liner ...thats one situation where a serviceable gritty speedy cheap winger gets the nod.....hahaha we could mention zuckers 6 goals cost 5 million. Laffertys 1 goal cost 750k....do the math.....

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

Well one situation is if your against the cap and simply cant afford a soft overpriced winger who came as first line player and plays like a 4th liner ...thats one situation where a serviceable gritty speedy cheap winger gets the nod.....hahaha we could mention zuckers 6 goals cost 5 million. Laffertys 1 goal cost 750k....do the math.....

Zucker played hurt and put off getting the surgery until enough of his teammates came back. Yes he’s having a tough offensive season with only 13 points in 31 games. Lafferty has 3 points in 25 games.

 

[SEALBound]

this has to be a joke. I legitimately cannot comprehend someone actually having the opinion that Sam lafferty would be a better option, at any time, over Zucker.

You new to this part of the board? Dude is the PensX of the trade board and I would be if the mods did a IP check, they'd find it's the same person.

 

[3074326]

Let me help this thread.

On behalf of the Pittsburgh Penguins hockey team and fan base, regarding the trade of Sam Lafferty for Alex Nylander, I hereby dub the Chicago Blackhawks hockey team and fan base, the WINNERS of the trade. May Sam Lafferty be everything you hoped he would be and more. I will be offering counseling services to Penguins organization members and fans who have difficulty accepting this.

There, we all good now?

Humble in victory, gracious in defeat

 

[Bishop7979]

Well one situation is if your against the cap and simply cant afford a soft overpriced winger who came as first line player and plays like a 4th liner ...thats one situation where a serviceable gritty speedy cheap winger gets the nod.....hahaha we could mention zuckers 6 goals cost 5 million. Laffertys 1 goal cost 750k....do the math.....

Or we could recognize you're a troll and actually ignore this tread until it finally dies because no sane person thinks Sam f***ing Lafferty is the difference between a playoff win and a play off loss.

Just put this jack ass on ignore so this thread can finally just bleed out.

 

[Guttersniped]

this has to be a joke. I legitimately cannot comprehend someone actually having the opinion that Sam lafferty would be a better option, at any time, over Zucker.

Haven’t you heard? “The game has changed. It’s not 2016 anymore.” The big bad, uh, Tampa Bay Lightning have proved that.

Watch out, the barbarian Panthers, the two-fisted Hurricanes and thuggish Avalanche are coming for everyone next.

 

[Jerkbait]

Or we could recognize you're a troll and actually ignore this tread until it finally dies because no sane person thinks Sam f***ing Lafferty is the difference between a playoff win and a play off loss.

Just put this jack ass on ignore so this thread can finally just bleed out.

Thats not what anyone said!!! What was said is the difference for the penguins in winning round one and losing round 1 has alot to do with team grit. This has been proven. Combine that with sub par goaltending and its gonzo....taking away what little grit the team did have will NOT help this situation

 

[Jerkbait]

Zucker played hurt and put off getting the surgery until enough of his teammates came back. Yes he’s having a tough offensive season with only 13 points in 31 games. Lafferty has 3 points in 25 games.

Again zuckers goals cost the pens over 800k per...Lafferty around 750k...whats the better bang for the buck here...answer is neither...Lafferty still playing in the NHL is slightly more valuable than Nylander just by playing a grittier game

 

[SundherDome]

Is this really an issue?

If both fan bases are happy, who friggin cares?

It’s like trading a roll of toilet paper for a urinal mint.

Wait, wait, wait. Are you telling me you wipe your ass/blow your nose with urinal mints?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Wait, wait, wait. Are you telling me you wipe your ass/blow your nose with urinal mints?

You don’t?

 

[SEALBound]

Humble in victory, gracious in defeat

Apparently, the mods don't feel the same, lol.

 

[chethejet]

Nylander has the greater upside and Pens have him playing in the AHL to work on his overall game. He has been a nice addition both offensively and has played well in other facets of the game. He has offensive skills that are NHL caliber and Pens are happy with his effort. I did like Lafferty as a player the Pens were in short supply as a banger and physical forward. But I make that trade as Pens could be the beneficiary of a change of scenary for Nylander.