Player Discussion Charlie McAvoy IV

[DarrenBanks56]

So just clarifying…a player has to a)willingly admit he has symptoms, and b) if a player says he has symptoms, the league/team has to test? And the league somehow enforces this?

I’m just trying to understand how this comes to light. Who polices this?

i think its up to the player. he must have been pretty sick. because otherwise you just dont say anything.
hopefully hes back for tbursday.

 

[loosemoose]

Considering his heart issues, probably wise for him to be pretty careful with Covid and not rush him in.

 

[Over the volcano]

So just clarifying…a player has to a)willingly admit he has symptoms, and b) if a player says he has symptoms, the league/team has to test? And the league somehow enforces this?

I’m just trying to understand how this comes to light. Who polices this?

You sound like a guy who'd hide a zombie bite.

 

[bp14]

So again taking aside all of the political or personal stances, again, we believe the onus is on the player to relay symptoms?

We are talking about a sport where players play with significant injuries. The captain played with a punctured lung and broken ribs a few years back, which could have easily done him real damage. I think it’s fair to wonder how this comes to light and what the policy of the league is. A poster above pointed out Charlie’s heart issue, which is a relevant point as to why he might have relayed symptoms. I’m simply wondering who’s obligated to do what and what is policed, if anything.

 

[DKH]

Covid is running through schools right now and with Spring allergies I know people getting tested to make sure and finding out they have Covid. My family member HS had their prom Last week and many many of the kids have it and over 40 teachers as of yesterday

*****McAvoy like people I know likely didn’t feel well and tested to make sure and find he had it.*****

This form apparently is highly contagious

He had a heart procedure Bruins fans remember took place a few years ago

One of my friends who’s a guidance counselor (and was with me at Bruins game 4/16) and had all the shots got it and day 6 was yesterday and was still positive and said it was not pleasant. This person is a stud athlete who was a college athlete, scratch golfer and eats better than 99% on the planet and is probably in better shape then 99% and still got hit hard

I am assuming we won’t see McAvoy till game 7 earliest

It’s a bummer if his absence costs them series but times we live in

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

So again taking aside all of the political or personal stances, again, we believe the onus is on the player to relay symptoms?

We are talking about a sport where players play with significant injuries. The captain played with a punctured lung and broken ribs a few years back, which could have easily done him real damage. I think it’s fair to wonder how this comes to light and what the policy of the league is. A poster above pointed out Charlie’s heart issue, which is a relevant point as to why he might have relayed symptoms. I’m simply wondering who’s obligated to do what and what is policed, if anything.

I’m not sure how specific someone needs to get before you’re satisfied with an answer.

He had symptoms to the point where I’m guessing it was obvious. At that point, the responsible thing to do is to tell someone and get tested. That’s pretty much how it’s working in most workplaces at this point.

It’s obvious from all your posts that you’re in the “it’s not a big deal” crowd and it’s manifesting in this strange demand for an oddly specific answer that inevitably will not satisfy you.

 

[DKH]

So again taking aside all of the political or personal stances, again, we believe the onus is on the player to relay symptoms?

We are talking about a sport where players play with significant injuries. The captain played with a punctured lung and broken ribs a few years back, which could have easily done him real damage. I think it’s fair to wonder how this comes to light and what the policy of the league is. A poster above pointed out Charlie’s heart issue, which is a relevant point as to why he might have relayed symptoms. I’m simply wondering who’s obligated to do what and what is policed, if anything.

Because you brought up Bergeron my interpretation is you really want to say

McAvoy should have not asked to get tested if he felt ill and play through this because it’s the Stanley Cup playoffs

Amirite ?

 

[bp14]

I’m not sure how specific someone needs to get before you’re satisfied with an answer.

He had symptoms to the point where I’m guessing it was obvious. At that point, the responsible thing to do is to tell someone and get tested. That’s pretty much how it’s working in most workplaces at this point.

It’s obvious from all your posts that you’re in the “it’s not a big deal” crowd and it’s manifesting in this strange demand for an oddly specific answer that inevitably will not satisfy you.

I don’t believe I need an oddly specific answer. I think it’s a simple question:

Is the league/team policing any of this or is testing/reporting symptoms the responsibility of the players?

My guess is you don’t know the actual answer. Which is fine - it seems like none of us do. But I’m still curious if anyone actually knows the answer.

 

[The National]

Not sure how you can watch Mcavoy play and think he’s not dying to be out there.

 

[bp14]

Because you brought up Bergeron my interpretation is you really want to say

McAvoy should have not asked to get tested if he felt ill and play through this because it’s the Stanley Cup playoffs

Amirite ?

No. This is not true. McAvoy can do what he wants, if it’s his choice.

My point was that in a league filled with guys playing with injury, it would strike me as odd that the league would allow players to police themselves on this. So that’s my question, again. Is that what’s happening?

Just like you can guess my position I can guess plenty here as well. But our positions are meaningless and not relevant to my question.

 

[DKH]

No. This is not true. McAvoy can do what he wants, if it’s his choice.

My point was that in a league filled with guys playing with injury, it would strike me as odd that the league would allow players to police themselves on this. So that’s my question, again. Is that what’s happening?

Just like you can guess my position I can guess plenty here as well. But our positions are meaningless and not relevant to my question.

Why did you bring up Bergeron

My opinion matters to me and I think you are full of crap

 

[bp14]

Not sure how you can watch Mcavoy play and think he’s not dying to be out there.

Again. Not AT ALL my suggestion. I’m not in fact suggesting anything.

 

[Over the volcano]

I don’t believe I need an oddly specific answer. I think it’s a simple question:

Is the league/team policing any of this or is testing/reporting symptoms the responsibility of the players?

My guess is you don’t know the actual answer. Which is fine - it seems like none of us do. But I’m still curious if anyone actually knows the answer.

Everyone's been telling you the answer over and over, my guess is you don't want to hear it.

This is the deal. . .
Player experiences symptoms, tests, if its positive they're out for at least 5 days.

If you're asking if a guy hide their symptoms? The answer is sure, if they're not severe and want to risk the safety and health of others (including the rest of their team).

 

[bp14]

Why did you bring up Bergeron

My opinion matters to me and I think you are full of crap

I brought up Bergeron because it’s a prominent example of a player choosing to play whereas the league/team didn’t interfere. The McAvoy situation made me wonder if the league/team has a responsibility here.

It is not to pass judgment on them or the player. The player is great and is as tough as they come. I’m not asking him or antibody to “play through” anything. I’m simply asking whether Covid symptoms are now treated like an injury where it’s on the player to report issues or are they still testing? Is their league pressure? Etc.

 

[wintersej]

No. This is not true. McAvoy can do what he wants, if it’s his choice.

My point was that in a league filled with guys playing with injury, it would strike me as odd that the league would allow players to police themselves on this. So that’s my question, again. Is that what’s happening?

Just like you can guess my position I can guess plenty here as well. But our positions are meaningless and not relevant to my question.

The risk of policing yourself and hiding it is that you can then give it to the whole damn team. How long can you hide that?

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

The risk of policing yourself and hiding it is that you can then give it to the whole damn team. How long can you hide that?

We've seen the NHL cancel games because of teams in Protocol, would hate to be the team that forfeits a series because of it.

There hasn't been precident for that, but the NHL is really a crapshoot when it comes to it's decisions, and I really wouldn't risk that.

More importantly, the health of everyone involved. I mean in MA, I'd say most people are vaccinated at this point that want to be (with the percentage of the population that can't due to age or medical conditions), which if they can help stop the spread, then good for them.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I don’t believe I need an oddly specific answer. I think it’s a simple question:

Is the league/team policing any of this or is testing/reporting symptoms the responsibility of the players?

My guess is you don’t know the actual answer. Which is fine - it seems like none of us do. But I’m still curious if anyone actually knows the answer.

Considering the league is no longer testing players unless they report symptoms, I guess you could say they are not policing it any more.

Do not know what more of answer you could be looking for…

 

[DKH]

The risk of policing yourself and hiding it is that you can then give it to the whole damn team. How long can you hide that?

However because Providence isn’t playing they would have players who could step in

If McAvoy didn’t disclose and played - as long as the Bruins had less then 10 players contract it they could play the games tonight and Thursday

Frederic, Studnicka, Steen, Ahcan could all step in

 

[TD Charlie]

The risk of policing yourself and hiding it is that you can then give it to the whole damn team. How long can you hide that?

Agreed. Not worth the risk. That's a surefire way to destroy any sense of camaraderie you had with the team

 

[KnightofBoston]

I brought up Bergeron because it’s a prominent example of a player choosing to play whereas the league/team didn’t interfere. The McAvoy situation made me wonder if the league/team has a responsibility here.

It is not to pass judgment on them or the player. The player is great and is as tough as they come. I’m not asking him or antibody to “play through” anything. I’m simply asking whether Covid symptoms are now treated like an injury where it’s on the player to report issues or are they still testing? Is their league pressure? Etc.

I didn’t realize broken ribs were contagious and can mutate

Get real dude

My realtor who helped my wife and I realize our dream with our first house died in January from covid, she was relatively young and healthy, I planned on helping her build a garden this summer.

Covid is f***ing nasty and unpredictable. I got it in February fully vaxxed and boosted, 31 one years old, go to the gym 5 times a week - it knocked me out for 3 weeks and took me another 2 to get my energy back to normal. Not something you sweep under the rug just because it’s typical for nhl players to play with injuries in the playoffs.

 

[Number8]

You can find a reason to put an asterisk on any year if you really want to.
I understand maybe last year not being considered a “real Cup”, but an 82 game season in which shit happens doesn’t deserve any sort permanent mark outside of what is deserved every year.

Bullshit. You know better that. Pick up your game.

The last "real Cup" was in 2011. Before that you had to go all the way back to 1972 and then 1970 for the last "real Cups". Again, you know this.

 

[PlayMakers]

I really hope this doesn't cause an outbreak. Seems like the last time we started seeing Covid positives it ran through the league and we had to cancel the Olympics to get in all the makeups.

 

[The National]

 

[EverettMike]

This thread is a masterpiece in calling out dog whistle bullshit. Kudos to everyone except one person.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Lol felger saying "go breathe on D'Angelo.