Chara tries to fight Getzlaf (Mod warning page bazillion)

[BruinLVGA]

Did it not occur to you that I wanted to address the fact it wasn't late?

You're actually *****ing at me because I wanted to address a certain point of a post you made, which somehow means I'm grasping at straws because you've said other things in the thread too? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? You're telling me I can't respond to something you said, because you want to discuss something else instead.

If you don't want someone to address a specific point you make then don't make it.

Mkay sure. It was late.
Now onto the Chara Getzlaf incident: Getzlaf acted cowardly from moment one, all the way to the end of it.

 

[Number8]

I said it was a fact that a player following through on a shot is eligible to be hit. It is a fact.

There is no rule that stipulates shooting the puck makes you ineligible for a check.

You labeling that as your opinion isn't a defense. It might be an opinion, but it's clearly a wrong one, and it can be proven as such. Saying "IMO" isn't some blanket defense against saying something that is wrong.

Player A takes a shot and gets hit simultaneously.
Player B takes a shot and gets hit half a second later.
Player C takes a shot and gets hit a second later.
Player D takes a shot and gets hit five seconds later.

For the record I am not assigning any of these scenarios to Backes/Ritchie.

My only point is not all these situations are the same OR legal.

Determining which is which is based on....... wait for it....... the OPINION of the referee.

You see it one way. I see it another. Difference is I say my opinion is X. You say my opinion is wrong, and that the FACTS are Y.

You have failed your homework assignment miserably.

In fact you get an F for effort.

 

[Sojourn]

Well he's not but you guys bickering over a hit is silly. It's not even your fault either of you. Back when I played we had like a 3 stride or 3 second rule or something to that effect. Nobody knows what a late hit is anymore just like goalie interference. It's nobodys fault but the NHL

To be fair, you did post the replay of the hit, citing the entire situation as coming from it.

I think that's accurate, for the record.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Love the movie reference, 2nd best post of the whole thread.

What was the 1st

 

[Sojourn]

Player A takes a shot and gets hit simultaneously.
Player B takes a shot and gets hit half a second later.
Player C takes a shot and gets hit a second later.
Player D takes a shot and gets hit five seconds later.

For the record I am not assigning any of these scenarios to Backes/Ritchie.

My only point is not all these situations are the same OR legal.

Determining which is which is based on....... wait for it....... the OPINION of the referee.

You see it one way. I see it another. Difference is I say my opinion is X. You say my opinion is wrong, and that the FACTS are Y.

You have failed your homework assignment miserably.

In fact you get an F for effort.

You mean the referee who determined there was no penalty on the play?

I think maybe the problem here is you can't make up your mind on what you're trying to say, because you're contradicting yourself left and right. First it isn't legal to hit someone after they take a shot, and now you need to qualify it by saying it isn't always legal to hit someone after they take a shot... which is why the referee is there to make the call.

...which he didn't do in this case, because it wasn't late.

 

[HansonBro]

To be fair, you did post the replay of the hit, citing the entire situation as coming from it.

I think that's accurate, for the record.

Ya I added that clip so people had more of an understanding as to why Chara was targeting Henrique, why Getzy slashed him etc...

 

[Number8]

You mean the referee who determined there was no penalty on the play?

Yeah, but he’s paid to do it. On one or two occasions the refs sometimes make mistakes.

Evidently that makes them different from you in at least two ways.

1) They get paid to render a judgement or opinion.

2) Evidently you are never wrong.

 

[Sojourn]

Ya I added that clip so people had more of an understanding as to why Chara was targeting Henrique, why Getzy slashed him etc...

I understand. I'm just saying that the hit didn't go over too well with some of the Boston fans. Which, well, you can see from the responses here. I think it was inevitable for it to get brought up.

I thought the entire sequence was just an example of hard hockey, all-around. From the hit by Ritchie to the response by Chara, and then again from Getzlaf and Chara.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

So Ritchie throws a clean hit; Chara responds with a late hit on a different player and starts throwing punches at Getzlaf when he's tied up by the linesman; extremely biased commentator complains and praises both of Chara's dirty plays.

Edit: not that Ritchie and Getzlaf are choir boys, or that Getzlaf would have done well in that fight.

Getzlaf slashed Chara after the play, it's not like Chara was throwing rights out of nowhere........

 

[Sojourn]

Yeah, but he’s paid to do it. On one or two occasions the refs sometimes make mistakes.

Evidently that makes them different from you in at least two ways.

1) They get paid to render a judgement or opinion.

2) Evidently you are never wrong.

I'm wrong plenty.

But I don't appeal to authority at the same time I accuse said authority of making a mistake. That's just a poorly thought out point all-around. You're saying that it's up to them to determine if this hit was late, and not us, but they determined this wasn't late... which you think was a mistake. So you're saying we need to take their judgement on when a play is legal, except when you don't agree with it because then they are just wrong.

You need to make up your mind here. You're all over the damn place.

 

[HansonBro]

I understand. I'm just saying that the hit didn't go over too well with some of the Boston fans. Which, well, you can see from the responses here. I think it was inevitable for it to get brought up.

I thought the entire sequence was just an example of hard hockey, all-around. From the hit by Ritchie to the response by Chara, and then again from Getzlaf and Chara.

We've already agreed on captains being captains here

 

[PuckInTheNards]

Hit by Ritchie was clean and good on Getzlaf for sticking up to Chara but the refs saved Getzlaf's life. Chara destroys people when he wants to.

 

[Number8]

You mean the referee who determined there was no penalty on the play?

I think maybe the problem here is you can't make up your mind on what you're trying to say, because you're contradicting yourself left and right. First it isn't legal to hit someone after they take a shot, and now you need to qualify it by saying it isn't always legal to hit someone after they take a shot... which is why the referee is there to make the call.

...which he didn't do in this case, because it wasn't late.

In the future I’ll make a note to ask you what I’m trying to say and whether my opinions are fact or fiction.

Glad the refs are never wrong in your book. Until the call goes against your team of course. Then, well.......... you know.

 

[Sojourn]

We've already agreed on captains being captains here

Hah, yeah. Sorry. Just reiterating.

 

[bruins repeat time]

Far too much being made of this. I am obviously a bruin fan but Chara right or wrong was ticked about Backes hit . The fact Backes had a head injury I think makes it a debateable hit . It wasn't late though in my eyes . Getz is pissy about hit on Henrique which Chara went out of his way to run at him but again it wasn't really late . Hats off to Getz for sticking up for his guy and Chara for his / end of story.

 

[Sojourn]

In the future I’ll make a note to ask you what I’m trying to say and whether my opinions are fact or fiction.

Glad the refs are never wrong in your book. Until the call goes against your team of course. Then, well.......... you know.

You'll note I never said that. I simply said your attempt to defer to them here, while also saying they are wrong in this case, is a bit ridiculous.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I wouldn't say Getlaf was "cowardly" or running away at all. He chopped Chara, faced him up and crosschecked him, and then threw a punch. By all rights he was surely expecting to brawl at that point.

What backed him off was that Chara hit him 3 times fast in the face, especially that last right that really connected just as the refs arrived. At that point, Getzlaf's bell is rung and naturally he leans back to try and get out of the line of fire. By the time he had a chance to see clearly, the refs were in the way and it was all over but the shouting.

So no, he didn't run. He did get served some street justice, but he didn't run.

 

[HansonBro]

In the future I’ll make a note to ask you what I’m trying to say and whether my opinions are fact or fiction.

Glad the refs are never wrong in your book. Until the call goes against your team of course. Then, well.......... you know.

He knows refs can be wrong. But c'mon if you're going to use that defence, you'll surely admit Charas hit on Henrique was a missed call then right? I mean did he even touch the puck there?

 

[HanSolo]

I wouldn't say Getlaf was "cowardly" or running away at all. He chopped Chara, faced him up and crosschecked him, and then threw a punch. By all rights he was surely expecting to brawl at that point.

What backed him off was that Chara hit him 3 times fast in the face, especially that last right that really connected just as the refs arrived. At that point, Getzlaf's bell is rung and naturally he leans back to try and get out of the line of fire. By the time he had a chance to see clearly, the refs were in the way and it was all over but the shouting.

So no, he didn't run. He did get served some street justice, but he didn't run.

Stop. We need to maintain the narrative that Getzlaf is a coward.

 

[authentic]

-Chara is turning 41 years old. This board talks like he is 20. Chara isnt George Foreman. Just because he is big doesnt mean he is some enforcer at 41.

Lmao oh man, he would wreck anyone in this league in a fight if he was angry, him being 40 has literally nothing to do with it, he's not 60 years old.

 

[ACC1224]

I didn't get why Getzlaf got the extra two?

 

[A4T1L6]

lmao Backes got lit the f up

 

[Sheppy]

I didn't get why Getzlaf got the extra two?

Probably the hack behind the leg and the crosscheck that initiated the entire thing.

 

[A4T1L6]

wakey wakey backes

 

[HanSolo]

Slashes Chara in the leg and then hides behind the refs. What a Captain. Ritchie learned well. Even a midget like Krug will drop the gloves after a questionable hit but this 240lb tough guy couldn’t get away fast enough.

That's not what happened at all but I knew this post was coming.