Proposal: Chabottom Girls Make The RocKing World Go 'Round: L.A. + OTT + ARI

[SteelCityCannon]

At what point is this spam honestly?

 

[YP44]

I disagree...

Why do you think LA would pay to shed final year of Quick's deal?
Also curious thoughts on why Ottawa would deal Chabot for Clarke.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

I think the obvious reason - which I mentioned in the OP - is that Ottawa is years away from contention..

And so is LA by your measure. So it still makes no sense.

 

[YP44]

I wouldn't do Chabot for Turcotte + Clarke so forget it if OTT has to take Maatta and give up a 2nd

Ottawa doesn't need more prospects, they need their current prospects to develop into solid players, like Chabot did before

Also, when Ottawa finally has a solid team (money invested?), people will actually realize how good Chabot is.

bingo

 

[Perennial]

I wouldn't do Chabot for Turcotte + Clarke so forget it if OTT has to take Maatta and give up a 2nd

Ottawa doesn't need more prospects, they need their current prospects to develop into solid players, like Chabot did before

Also, when Ottawa finally has a solid team (money invested?), people will actually realize how good Chabot is.

I called Chabot 'an all-star calibre LD' in the OP, and I have the Kings giving up two highly touted prospects for him...

I certainly don't think I've underrated his impact as a player

 

[Perennial]

And so is LA by your measure. So it still makes no sense.

Quote me

 

[Xspyrit]

I called Chabot 'an all-star calibre LD' in the OP, and I have the Kings giving up to highly touted prospects for him...

I certainly don't think I've underrated his impact as a player

I never said you did, but it's an overall "sentiment" from the web, because Chabot has only been playing in Ottawa during the scorched earth rebuild.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Quote me

So Ottawa is in rebuild mode according to you so they should want to trade Chabot for that fact. And yet everybody and their dog knows LA is also in rebuild mode as well. Yet somehow you think is a good idea for Chabot to go to LA? Why does that same logic not apply to them in your world?

Its not a single quote of yours I’m basing this on, rather I’m trying to follow your train of logic. You make the proposals so please help us to understand.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The reason I'm getting rocked for it because they think they have some authority over others and their proposals... that mindset is the point of contention

Well, respectfully, take my opinion for what it's worth (not much)--I'm seeing it as you were given feedback on multiple "player x"s in other threads and you don't use those to inform your proposals. If it's just posters governing thought for no reason then I agree with you, but a lot of the backlash is coming from a place of "we just told you". My 2C.

To the proposal I would not disagree that Chabot is like the perfect target for the kings in a vacuum but that regardless there is nothing that would make sense to Ottawa moving him period.

 

[Perennial]

So Ottawa is in rebuild mode according to you so they should want to trade Chabot for that fact. And yet everybody and their dog knows LA is also in rebuild mode as well. Yet somehow you think is a good idea for Chabot to go to LA? Why does that same logic not apply to them in your world?

Its not a single quote of yours I’m basing this on, rather I’m trying to follow your train of logic. You make the proposals so please help us to understand.

I said Ottawa was years away from contention...

Also, the Kings just signed Danault, traded for Arvidsson, and brought in Edler... one could be forgiven for believing they're no longer in rebuild mode if that's not the case

I certainly don't view the Kings as a team that is "years away from contention" like I do with Ottawa...

Seems like an easy train of logic to hop aboard, no?

 

[Perennial]

Well, respectfully, take my opinion for what it's worth (not much)--I'm seeing it as you were given feedback on multiple "player x"s in other threads and you don't use those to inform your proposals. If it's just posters governing thought for no reason then I agree with you, but a lot of the backlash is coming from a place of "we just told you". My 2C.

To the proposal I would not disagree that Chabot is like the perfect target for the kings in a vacuum but that regardless there is nothing that would make sense to Ottawa moving him period.

I disagree...

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

I said Ottawa was years away from contention...

Also, the Kings just signed Danault, traded for Arvidsson, and brought in Edler... one could be forgiven for believing they're no longer in rebuild mode if that's not the case

I certainly don't view the Kings as a team that is "years away from contention" like I do with Ottawa...

Seems like an easy train of logic to hop aboard, no?

Well, judging by the reply's and just a general reading of the room, I would have to disagree

Seems to me you and your proposals have left a lot more than just me confused.

 

[Tempo]

Another one on the ignore list.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I disagree...

Have you ever considered the fact that you're wildly & chronically uninformed?

 

[Akrapovince]

Well, respectfully, take my opinion for what it's worth (not much)--I'm seeing it as you were given feedback on multiple "player x"s in other threads and you don't use those to inform your proposals. If it's just posters governing thought for no reason then I agree with you, but a lot of the backlash is coming from a place of "we just told you". My 2C.

To the proposal I would not disagree that Chabot is like the perfect target for the kings in a vacuum but that regardless there is nothing that would make sense to Ottawa moving him period.

I know it doesn’t quite make sense for Ottawa but in a cap world it’s inexcusable to trade a potential 1C and 1D away if your goal is to contend for the Stanley cup. Regardless of how good of a player is coming back the other way.

We’re not talking about Erik Brannstrom and Colin White here. Turcotte and Clarke are blue chip prospects and up until now we don’t have any indication Clarke can’t be a Chabot, and to pay a premium in Turcotte after just recently making the draft choice and getting your player just doesn’t quite make sense to me.

I’m not trading Stützle & Sanderson for virtually anyone. They are too good of prospects and weaponizing that ELC is invaluable. So I’m sure LA feels the same about Turcotte & Clarke, even more so because they have contracts and established players already.

IMO Kings win a cup faster with Turk and Clarke on their ELC than with Chabot in their line up. The goal is to win a cup, not to do the best you can as soon as possible.

 

[GOilers88]

I just don't understand how Ottawa, or any team for that matter, like Arizona in the other thread, ever get to contender status if they keep trading their best young, cost controlled players for more picks and prospects simply because they aren't contending. It seems like an endless carousel that only has U23 players on it.

 

[ThankGord]

I couldn't care less...

If I'm running the Kings, I want Quick's 5.8 cap hit off the books next season so it can be put to better use

So, with that mind... maybe quit trying to tell me what to do

Why do you post trade ideas here if you don't care about feedback from the involved teams' fanbases?

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

I just don't understand how Ottawa, or any team for that matter, like Arizona in the other thread, ever get to contender status if they keep trading their best young, cost controlled players for more picks and prospects simply because they aren't contending. It seems like an endless carousel that only has U23 players on it.

This 100%.

It’s something the OP fails to understand. The entire point of the rebuild is to eventually be rebuilt.

 

[YP44]

I just don't understand how Ottawa, or any team for that matter, like Arizona in the other thread, ever get to contender status if they keep trading their best young, cost controlled players for more picks and prospects simply because they aren't contending. It seems like an endless carousel that only has U23 players on it.

especially when you have a young guy who wants to be there and has committed long term. chabot maybe more untouchable than Stutzle IMO, just because one has committed long term to the city and franchise.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Im starting to think this is Eklund's HF profile. Nothing makes sense and it's always awful.

 

[Perennial]

I just don't understand how Ottawa, or any team for that matter, like Arizona in the other thread, ever get to contender status if they keep trading their best young, cost controlled players for more picks and prospects simply because they aren't contending. It seems like an endless carousel that only has U23 players on it.

This 100%.

It’s something the OP fails to understand. The entire point of the rebuild is to eventually be rebuilt.

Not every "best young" player is equal... if Keller is your best young forward coming out of a rebuild, I don't have much faith that rebuild will be successful (not saying Arizona won't draft a better forward in the coming drafts)

The entire point of a rebuild is to eventually be rebuilt into a contender that leads to a championship... not just another mid-tier team

That's something you fail to understand...

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Not every "best young" player is equal... if Keller is your best young forward coming out of a rebuild, I don't have much faith that rebuild will be successful (not saying Arizona won't draft a better forward in the coming drafts)

The entire point of a rebuild is to eventually be rebuilt into a contender that leads to a championship... not just another mid-tier team

That's something you fail to understand...

Sorry I just fail to see how trading a 24 yr old # 1 d man (league wide consensus) who just recently signed an 8 yr deal for what appears to be below market value, in a not so desirable location, hampers the odds of becoming a contender for Ottawa down the road. Call me crazy……

 

[Perennial]

Sorry I just fail to see how trading a 24 yr old # 1 d man (league wide consensus) who just recently signed an 8 yr deal for what appears to be below market value, in a not so desirable location, hampers the odds of becoming a contender for Ottawa down the road. Call me crazy……

I don't think anyone would be crazy to keep Chabot... nor do I think anyone would be crazy to to trade him for Turcotte and Clarke...

Also, this is the Keller thread...

 

[GOilers88]

Not every "best young" player is equal... if Keller is your best young forward coming out of a rebuild, I don't have much faith that rebuild will be successful (not saying Arizona won't draft a better forward in the coming drafts)

The entire point of a rebuild is to eventually be rebuilt into a contender that leads to a championship... not just another mid-tier team

That's something you fail to understand...

With regards to the other thread I meant our discussion about Chychrun. I think guys like him and Chabot are guys you hope to draft to build said contender. Like you said though, we disagree and that's cool.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

I don't think anyone would be crazy to keep Chabot... nor do I think anyone would be crazy to to trade him for Turcotte and Clarke...

Also, this is the Keller thread...

Yes my apologizes. Your trade proposals are so numerous as well as so horrendous that they all start to seem the same and blend into one another.