Confirmed Trade: [CGY/ARI] Michael Stone at 50% retained FOR 2017 3rd round pick and a 2018 cndl 5th

[Flames Fanatic]

Wait, what? Was Chayka the unnamed GM who said the Flames were shopping Hamilton?

Speculation was it was him anyways.

 

[UnderratedBrooks44]

This had nothing to do with return and everything with Chayka pacifying Burke

>offer Duclair for Hamilton

>get on the bad side of the oldest boy of the old boys club who now poisons the well with all the other old boy GMs/other people for you

>give him freebie on ~2nd pairing yet expendable player to get back on his good side.

Sounds like a ton of conjecture and not much else.

As far as the deal itself, it's just AZ saving a few bucks when there's no point in keeping the guy.

 

[rt]

Ooooof! I was waaaaaaaay off!!! Haha. I thought Stone would get a 2nd and a B prospect. Wow I was wrong. This might be the furthest off I've been on the actual value of one of our players. There are some very embarrassing gems in my post history. Yikes.

 

[Lunatik]

I'd like to also point out that 'Yotes former GM Don Maloney is a pro scout for the Flames and Treliving is a former AGM in ARZ, they are very familiar with Stone and his abilities.

 

[Territory]

He's okay. Bottom pairing guy.

 

[rt]

Was hoping for a 3rd in return for Stone. Fair value.

I was thinking of things got whacky we might even steal a late first. I was so wrong!

 

[Ducks in a row]

Not much of a return. If he had been as good as last season he would easily of returned more.

 

[JPeeper]

No more Wideman with Brodie = Flames win trade.

 

[Seachd]

Ooooof! I was waaaaaaaay off!!! Haha. I thought Stone would get a 2nd and a B prospect. Wow I was wrong. This might be the furthest off I've been on the actual value of one of our players. There are some very embarrassing gems in my post history. Yikes.

Yeah, but this is HF, so you're not supposed to actually own up to it.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

that's it?

 

[hbk]

I was thinking of things got whacky we might even steal a late first. I was so wrong!

I think we both bought into the RD premium discussion.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

No more Wideman with Brodie = Flames win trade.

Stone on one knee may be more mobile

 

[George Binks]

Ooooof! I was waaaaaaaay off!!! Haha. I thought Stone would get a 2nd and a B prospect. Wow I was wrong. This might be the furthest off I've been on the actual value of one of our players. There are some very embarrassing gems in my post history. Yikes.

Been there, we've all been there

 

[MMC]

Yotes now have 3 3rds this year. Wonder if Chayka uses them to move up in the draft somehow?

 

[Ian Moran Icing]

Good Value for Calgary

 

[rt]

He's okay. Bottom pairing guy.

He's had a bad year. But he's been really good the couple of seasons before. Big shot. Can play physical. Apart from this year he was solid defensively. He's familiar with Calgary and if he sticks around he might surprise you with how good he can be. He might contribute to both special teams. For a 3rd rounder in the worst draft in years, you've got a steal.

 

[Riptide]

Ooooof! I was waaaaaaaay off!!! Haha. I thought Stone would get a 2nd and a B prospect. Wow I was wrong. This might be the furthest off I've been on the actual value of one of our players. There are some very embarrassing gems in my post history. Yikes.

You're not the only one. I figured he'd get at least a 2nd.

 

[Ainec]

This had nothing to do with return and everything with Chayka pacifying Burke

>offer Duclair for Hamilton

>get on the bad side of the oldest boy of the old boys club who now poisons the well with all the other old boy GMs/other people for you

>give him freebie on ~2nd pairing yet expendable player to get back on his good side.

Was there rumblings of this? If true I find it hilarious

 

[Homesick]

lol nowhere near the 1st for the "top 4 RHD"

 

[JurassicTunga]

He's had a bad year. But he's been really good the couple of seasons before. Big shot. Can play physical. Apart from this year he was solid defensively. He's familiar with Calgary and if he sticks around he might surprise you with how good he can be. He might contribute to both special teams. For a 3rd rounder in the worst draft in years, you've got a steal.

That is good to hear

 

[InfinityIggy]

Ooooof! I was waaaaaaaay off!!! Haha. I thought Stone would get a 2nd and a B prospect. Wow I was wrong. This might be the furthest off I've been on the actual value of one of our players. There are some very embarrassing gems in my post history. Yikes.

If you'd asked me his value before the trade I would of guessed a 2nd, so I don't think you were too far off really.

The expansion draft has really thrown off player values.

 

[Redline]

I was thinking of things got whacky we might even steal a late first. I was so wrong!

Don't beat yourself up, there are 30 GM's, there are 30 opinions. You had a chance.

 

[rt]

lol nowhere near the 1st for the "top 4 RHD"

Yeah, I threw out the 1st retort more than once. Mostly in an effort to curb super low ball offers like a messily 3rd rounder that were just sonout of touch with...wait...ummm...damn.

 

[RalphyDanger]

This is pretty puzzling at first sight. I see no reason for Chayka to jump at this return rather than wait for deadline day.

Maybe they thought this is the best they could get. Especially if there wasn't much interest in Stone, and the Flames want to lowball them a little more at the deadline.

 

[CupofOil]

Has nothing to do with the damn Oilers, quit playing victim. That trade just made this entire board value D 2x as much as before, and x4 if they are RD.

It's annoying.

Again, and I'll spell it out for you so you can understand better.
Larsson is a much better Dman who was signed long term to a team friendly contract whereas Stone is a pending UFA who was struggling a lot this season. Do you see the difference now? Apples and Oranges.

Why does the board valuation of Dmen matter so much to you? It's obvious that most of the armchair GMs around here know nothing about realistic trade value.

Either way, this is a good value deal for Calgary. Not sure why Chayka HAD TO deal him now if that was the return.