Confirmed Trade: [CGY/ARI] Michael Stone at 50% retained FOR 2017 3rd round pick and a 2018 cndl 5th

[Butchered]

I would have happily given more than that from TB

 

[Empoleon8771]

Yep there's probably not a whole lot of difference between a 42 points player and a 9 point player, you really got that one right.

Yes, I was totally implying that those two have the same value and not just implying that returns for rentals isn't going to be as high as some people on here want to think. Yeah, for sure. I thought including Kulikov would have given that away, but I guess not.

This trade actually probably very accurately reflects what Kulikov is going to bring back, the Shattenkirk comment was just showing that his price on this site is higher than what he'll actually be traded for if he gets traded.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Who is Michael Stone

 

[Edgar Carrow]

In what world is Stone held in the same value stratosphere as Shattenkirk?

Maybe they are thinking Mark Stone?

 

[CorgisPer60]

everywhere the gms that are selling are cursing arizona under their breath

If they were hoping to go by the precedent that Peter Chiarelli spent on Larsson, they were sadly mistaken.

 

[moosemeister]

Was hoping for a 3rd in return for Stone. Fair value.

 

[MrClutch86]

Guys, Stone isn't that good.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I don't think he is bad at all. He was quite good actually last year but suffered a pretty serious knee injury the last few weeks of the season..

I think coming to a team with actual structure will do wonders for him.

lol at the rangers having structure

 

[Satan]

What has caused Stone's play to fall off compared to his previous two seasons? His CA60 is absurdly high.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Shattenkirk >>>> Stone and Kulikov

Not to mention that's one less D available for teams who wanted to wait a week to see where things stood. Shattenkirk's price is probably at its in-season peak right now.

 

[cbzblaze]

Pretty good deal. Some of the prices being thrown around for pure rental players has been ridiculous as they rarely pan out. I'm sure Ari phoned around and this is probably the best offer they got.

 

[Dbrownss]

Yes, I was totally implying that those two have the same value and not just implying that returns for rentals isn't going to be as high as some people on here want to think. Yeah, for sure. I thought including Kulikov would have given that away, but I guess not.

If Shattenkirk doesn't return a 1st+ then he wont be traded.

 

[Redline]

The value is fair. Good trade.

 

[King In The North]

Could be a better D partner for Brodie for Wideman. Hell, I could be a better D partner.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

If they were hoping to go by the precedent that Peter Chiarelli spent on Larsson, they were sadly mistaken.

Because there's a ton in common between an injury-riddled pending UFA and a player signed to one of the best bargain contracts in the NHL.

Seriously, what is this place's obsession with the Hall/Larsson trade? Is it salt that the Oilers actually improved as a result?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Guys, Stone isn't that good.

all of his metrics are terrible

~42 cf%, 40.19 xgf%, scf% 39.5%

Just awful

and his relative numbers are bad too so it's not the coyotes fault that he's bad

 

[AZviaNJ]

I don't think he is bad at all. He was quite good actually last year but suffered a pretty serious knee injury the last few weeks of the season..

I think coming to a team with actual structure will do wonders for him.

if If Dave Tippett brings one thing, it's team structure.

 

[YourAverageFan*]

God dammit.

Stone isn't that good but if it means getting Wideman out of the top 4 then a 3rd and conditional 5th is a steal of a trade for Calgary.

 

[JT Kreider]

lol at the rangers having structure

Well some sort of structure at least. Zona is a dumpster fire.

Either way he is a good buy low and would have saved us from making a dumb trade for Shattenkirk.

 

[McFlyingV]

Honestly though, given that Petry got a 2nd+cond 5th as a pending UFA this deal is not at all surprising. Petry is a solid #3 while Stone is a good #5 or underwhelming #4.

 

[Petes2424]

All i have been hearing about is how bad Stone has been this season, so why exactly is the return surprising?

Exactly.

He's a bottom pairing guy on a decent team, top four on a bad team. Pretty much what he should've got in the market. He has his moments but so do many guys.

 

[CupofOil]

Because there's a ton in common between an injury-riddled pending UFA and a player signed to one of the best bargain contracts in the NHL.

Seriously, what is this place's obsession with the Hall/Larsson trade? Is it salt that the Oilers actually improved as a result?

It's extremely annoying, in every freaking Dman trade thread, even ones that aren't remotely related to the Hall/Larsson trade scenario.

 

[Curufinwe]

I guess they missed their chance to sell high in the offseason

He was recovering from ACL surgery, so I doubt the return would have been good then.

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

A steal for the Flames..

 

[Datsyukian Deke]

Michael who???