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Troy McClure

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Sorry but I don't get this. The AHL Stars play in one of the nicest facilities in the league in one of the most desirable cities in North America with incredible winter weather.

Does playing in Rockford Illinois and Loveland Colorado suck? Sure. It also sucks bussing across the plains of Western Canada.

What's your dream? To play in the NHL? How serious are you?
And half their time is spent traveling in low end means on the road in place where winter weather isn't great.

His dream is unaffected by this decision.
 

LT

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Stankoven tied for the AHL lead in goals. Bourque tied for AHL leads in assists and points.

On pretty much any other franchise, they'd already be in the NHL.

I obviously don't want any injuries, but they're gonna have to get a chance in the NHL sooner rather than later.
 

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Stankoven tied for the AHL lead in goals. Bourque tied for AHL leads in assists and points.

On pretty much any other franchise, they'd already be in the NHL.

I obviously don't want any injuries, but they're gonna have to get a chance in the NHL sooner rather than later.
I really hope Robo gets going again. This team is going to be so exciting when these kiddos are called up.
 

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I mentioned this in the main Bourque thread, but I still am curious about how he will hold up at the NHL level.

I have no doubt he's going to be a good NHL player, but for me it's just a matter of how good. I could see him as a 3rd line center/PP specialist guy easily, probably around a 35-40 point guy. I could also see him as a top 6 playmaker and great 2-way player, probably around 60 point potential.

He's not a great skater, definitely worse than Johnston & Stankoven. Better skater than Robertson of course though, just not a fast skater or very agile by any means. That's never been an important aspect of his game though since he's one of those playmakers who likes to draw guys to him, hold them off, and then pass it to a teammate in open space. If you're gonna play like that though and not be a great skater, it usually requires strength which again isn't his strongest asset. He's not a flashy skill guy either so he's not dancing his way out of these situations either.

I'd give him a 50/50 chance he ends up as either of the above options, assuming he becomes a NHL regular someday which he should. He's such a smart player though that I wouldn't bet against him. Guys like him find a way to be impact players. Usually end up very underrated too
 
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Man there must be some temptation to call one of them up soon (potentially for the next injury call up) then potentially comes down to which player as could only be one.

Is Dadonov a good enough forecheck player to play on the 4th line with Smith and Faksa?

I'd be so curious to see this

Robertson-Hintz-Pavelski
Marchment-Duchene-Seguin
Benn-Johnston-Stankovan
Smith-Faksa-Dadonov
Steel
 

Elysian

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Sorry but I don't get this. The AHL Stars play in one of the nicest facilities in the league in one of the most desirable cities in North America with incredible winter weather.

Does playing in Rockford Illinois and Loveland Colorado suck? Sure. It also sucks bussing across the plains of Western Canada.

What's your dream? To play in the NHL? How serious are you?
I just moved from Austin in 2022. Lived in Texas all my life. Have absolutely no love for that place.
 

BfantZ

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Stankoven might be the steal of the 2021 draft. Which is hilarious since Johnston is a candidate as well. Great draft. Bourque is a beast as well.
I mentioned this in the main Bourque thread, but I still am curious about how he will hold up at the NHL level.

I have no doubt he's going to be a good NHL player, but for me it's just a matter of how good. I could see him as a 3rd line center/PP specialist guy easily, probably around a 35-40 point guy. I could also see him as a top 6 playmaker and great 2-way player, probably around 60 point potential.

He's not a great skater, definitely worse than Johnston & Stankoven. Better skater than Robertson of course though, just not a fast skater or very agile by any means. That's never been an important aspect of his game though since he's one of those playmakers who likes to draw guys to him, hold them off, and then pass it to a teammate in open space. If you're gonna play like that though and not be a great skater, it usually requires strength which again isn't his strongest asset. He's not a flashy skill guy either so he's not dancing his way out of these situations either.

I'd give him a 50/50 chance he ends up as either of the above options, assuming he becomes a NHL regular someday which he should. He's such a smart player though that I wouldn't bet against him. Guys like him find a way to be impact players. Usually end up very underrated too
I can’t see bourque not racking up assists in the nhl .
 

LT

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I mentioned this in the main Bourque thread, but I still am curious about how he will hold up at the NHL level.

I have no doubt he's going to be a good NHL player, but for me it's just a matter of how good. I could see him as a 3rd line center/PP specialist guy easily, probably around a 35-40 point guy. I could also see him as a top 6 playmaker and great 2-way player, probably around 60 point potential.

He's not a great skater, definitely worse than Johnston & Stankoven. Better skater than Robertson of course though, just not a fast skater or very agile by any means. That's never been an important aspect of his game though since he's one of those playmakers who likes to draw guys to him, hold them off, and then pass it to a teammate in open space. If you're gonna play like that though and not be a great skater, it usually requires strength which again isn't his strongest asset. He's not a flashy skill guy either so he's not dancing his way out of these situations either.

I'd give him a 50/50 chance he ends up as either of the above options, assuming he becomes a NHL regular someday which he should. He's such a smart player though that I wouldn't bet against him. Guys like him find a way to be impact players. Usually end up very underrated too

I agree with all of this. I just think it's important to remember we all said very, very similar things about both Robertson and Johnston (neither of whom are known for their skating either). And so far, both guys have continued to blow by any expectations we had set for them.

I doubt we get so lucky 4/4 times, but who knows.
 
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No worse than Dallas. Norton specifically is far better. I couldn't afford what I have in Ohio anywhere in Texas, and my taxes are lower.
how on earth? rural texas is dirt cheap. and there's no state income tax. property tax is higher, but that's getting slashed next year, so unless you have low income, i can't see how that is.

maybe you just meant dallas? in which case it's apples and oranges. norton is more like mckinny or krum.
 
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Kcb12345

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I agree with all of this. I just think it's important to remember we all said very, very similar things about both Robertson and Johnston (neither of whom are known for their skating either). And so far, both guys have continued to blow by any expectations we had set for them.

I doubt we get so lucky 4/4 times, but who knows.

Thing is, Johnston is a much better skater than Bourque even still. Has better hands as well, which helps too.

Robertson has the size to hold guys off which is why it's hard to compare him with Bourque imo

Bourque though is a good enough playmaker and smart enough to where I think he can make it. Most likely won't be as good as those 2, but he will be an effective player no doubt.
 

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HEB is a good grocery store. Not a nice grocery store, but that is why they have Central Market under their umbrella.

Anyway I'm not mad about Bischel going to the SHL for the winter, have to offset the fact that we have Faksa who is literally the /best/ team soldier since... shit I dunno, Morrow?
 

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HEB is a good grocery store. Not a nice grocery store, but that is why they have Central Market under their umbrella.

Anyway I'm not mad about Bischel going to the SHL for the winter, have to offset the fact that we have Faksa who is literally the /best/ team soldier since... shit I dunno, Morrow?
real ones know central market's where it's at.

maybe the problem is no one took bishcel to central market.
 

Sports2

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HEB, Bucee’s. Lean into the Texan identity and we eat that shit up. Dairy queen did it with a slogan despite being a nationwide chain.

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heb is such a cult

Lol. I'm just a broke motherf***er who likes the quality/price/consistency of their products.
Aside from their store brand being as good or better than name brands, when the pandemic shut down half the country's supply chain, I still got groceries without any issues.

I'm only annoyed with Bichsel dipping out because I had planned on catching a game over in Cedar Park this season since I haven't been in a few years, and I wanted to see him play live.
 

Kcb12345

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Texas plays Friday and Saturday at 9pm CT btw.

I agreed to go see a movie at 10:10pm CT Friday thinking Texas would play at like 7. Nope, so I'll miss the last 2 periods of that game.
 

eartotheground

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Texas plays Friday and Saturday at 9pm CT btw.

I agreed to go see a movie at 10:10pm CT Friday thinking Texas would play at like 7. Nope, so I'll miss the last 2 periods of that game.

unacceptable, go to the movie a different day. We need our influx of updates

@Kcb12345 we aren't paying you to scout movies. get your priorities straight.
 

Elysian

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I don't care how nice or cheap anything is in Ohio, there's no HEB.
I do miss HEB, but not enough to offset the rest of the existential dread that is Texas.

HEB, Bucee’s. Lean into the Texan identity and we eat that shit up. Dairy queen did it with a slogan despite being a nationwide chain.

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Bucees is branching out a ton now. I'm sure it will hit Ohio one day. Hell, there's a Torchys Tacos in Columbus.
 

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