CCHL 2014-2015 season

Radagast

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5'7"? really where can a goalie like this go. Doesn't matter how athletic or acrobatic one is .cant play at ncaa,nhl level ever so why use a tournament like this to select one

Actually, I kind of disagree with this. However, I had advocated that Blade stay out of the Q and focus on trying for a Division 1 route, since the NCAA does like its small goalies and they have success there due to the organizational systems of defense.

For example, Jeff Lerg from MSU @ 5'6" and Shawn Hunwick from Michigan @ 5'7" are great examples of hugely successful small goalies that dominated at their levels in the NCAA and have moved on to professional careers.

Unfortunately, the lure of the Q was too great for Blade and the scouting in the Maritimes by the NCAA too poor. He threw away that opportunity for 4 games with the Dogs when he should have moved onto Ontario or BC after this season with his eligibility intact. I don't doubt that Blade will be a starter in the Q within the next two years, but he won't have the success that he would have had at the NCAA level.
 

jolly roger

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What a shame. One goalie, 1-4 in the tournament, played every single minute. Imo ridiculous. If I were Clark I'd be more than upset!
 

eddyshack

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What a shame. One goalie, 1-4 in the tournament, played every single minute. Imo ridiculous. If I were Clark I'd be more than upset!

That is not right. Adrian Clark should have played the final game. It is totally unfair. I don't get it ??? If he was good enough to make the team, he should have had the opportunity to play.

In regards to the coaching decisions and goalie selection, if you win you are a hero. However, if you lose you are a zero. Well they lost. I doubt if Hockey Canada will be asking Marty Abrams to coach Canada East in the near future.

That being said, the injury to Neil Doef had to impact the team. It was not a good tournament for the CE players, coaches, and the fans.
 
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Johnny 2K8

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If I'm Marty Abrams, and I want to win the bronze medal, I go with the goalie that gives me the best chance to win. He obviously felt that Blade Mann-Dixon was the best of his two goaltenders, so I don't blame him for going with him in the bronze medal game. It is not about being fair or unfair, it's about giving your team the best chance to win a medal.

People have to understand that for various reasons, it's almost impossible for a Canadian team to win that tournament. On paper, the Canadian teams will never be as strong as the Russians, US, or even Denmark this year, who brought the best possible players from their country, including Nikolaj Ehlers, the 9th overall pick in last year's NHL Draft. Our top players are all at the World Juniors in Montreal, and Toronto right now. These players that represent our country at the World Junior A Challenge are doing the best they can against much stronger competition. If you compare this year's results to those of last year, Team Canada East did much better this time around.

To go back to the goaltending situation, I can tell you that not one goalie played well enough to make the Team Canada East roster. During the tryouts, it was big subject of discussion. Most coaches agreed that Mann-Dixon was the better of the four, but they also knew that going with a 5'7 goaltender was going to be an issue. Although he struggled during camp, Clark made the team because of his reputation. He wasn't good either during Canada's only exhibition game against Russia. I think that is why Abrams made the call to go with Mann-Dixon, who I thought, played very well during the entire tournament. No matter who was in nets, there's no way Team Canada East was going to beat the US in the semis.
 

jolly roger

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If I'm Marty Abrams, and I want to win the bronze medal, I go with the goalie that gives me the best chance to win. He obviously felt that Blade Mann-Dixon was the best of his two goaltenders, so I don't blame him for going with him in the bronze medal game. It is not about being fair or unfair, it's about giving your team the best chance to win a medal.

People have to understand that for various reasons, it's almost impossible for a Canadian team to win that tournament. On paper, the Canadian teams will never be as strong as the Russians, US, or even Denmark this year, who brought the best possible players from their country, including Nikolaj Ehlers, the 9th overall pick in last year's NHL Draft. Our top players are all at the World Juniors in Montreal, and Toronto right now. These players that represent our country at the World Junior A Challenge are doing the best they can against much stronger competition. If you compare this year's results to those of last year, Team Canada East did much better this time around.

To go back to the goaltending situation, I can tell you that not one goalie played well enough to make the Team Canada East roster. During the tryouts, it was big subject of discussion. Most coaches agreed that Mann-Dixon was the better of the four, but they also knew that going with a 5'7 goaltender was going to be an issue. Although he struggled during camp, Clark made the team because of his reputation. He wasn't good either during Canada's only exhibition game against Russia. I think that is why Abrams made the call to go with Mann-Dixon, who I thought, played very well during the entire tournament. No matter who was in nets, there's no way Team Canada East was going to beat the US in the semis.

Are you serious? So Russia, Denmark and the US sent their best players to this tournament instead of their World Junior teams? I don't think so.And there isn't even a Swedish team in it.

And if no one was good in the nets why didn't they get someone else?

I personally think Mann-Dixon is a good goalie, but leaving him in after 5 goals against in one period against the US, and then starting him in the Medal game truly makes no sense to me. Clark has played exceptionally well for a strong CP team and I've seen his level of play several games. The kid should have gotten to play. I'll bet Mr. Clarke from CP would have had enough confidence in him to play him, at least in relief of a struggling Mann-Dixon in game 4, had he been the coach.

Hey, there's an idea, Hockey Canada, let's send Clarke AND Clark next time. Maybe we'll beat someone other than ourselves (Canada West).
 

Johnny 2K8

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Are you serious? So Russia, Denmark and the US sent their best players to this tournament instead of their World Junior teams? I don't think so.And there isn't even a Swedish team in it.

And if no one was good in the nets why didn't they get someone else?

I personally think Mann-Dixon is a good goalie, but leaving him in after 5 goals against in one period against the US, and then starting him in the Medal game truly makes no sense to me. Clark has played exceptionally well for a strong CP team and I've seen his level of play several games. The kid should have gotten to play. I'll bet Mr. Clarke from CP would have had enough confidence in him to play him, at least in relief of a struggling Mann-Dixon in game 4, had he been the coach.

Hey, there's an idea, Hockey Canada, let's send Clarke AND Clark next time. Maybe we'll beat someone other than ourselves (Canada West).

I never said that Russia, and the US sent their best players. I said Danemark brought their best possible team. Most of Danemark's players will be in Montreal and Toronto next week for the World Juniors. They only played in the World Junior A Challenge this year in order to get ready for the World Juniors.

That Russian team is their World Juniors B team. Tough to compete against that, although both Canadian teams did well against the Russians this year. Finally, the US team is compromised of all the top players in the USHL, and whether we like it or not, the USHL is way stronger than all Junior A leagues in Canada. Angelo from the US is a NHL 5th round pick along with three others who were taken in the last NHL Draft, Novak will be taken in the 1st round in 2015. More US players are also projected to go in the next draft. Not one player on Team Canada East has been drafted in the NHL, and if we're lucky, maybe one or two will be drafted in the 7th round of the 2015 draft. That's it. Bottom line is that players from Junior A leagues in Canada simply can't compete against those teams. This year's results are actually very good for Team Canada East, minus the 7-1 loss to the US. In order to make it fair, Team Canada would have to send their World Juniors B team to the World Junior A Challenge, and that's not going to happened because Canada would destroy all the other teams.

I do think that Jason Clarke is a great coach, but him coaching would make no difference. Even a guy like Mike Babcock was not going to win the gold medal with Team Canada East. Same thing for the goaltending situation, Clark might be as good as Mann-Dixon, I honestly think he has more potential, but he was not beating the US in the semis. And personally, I want to think that Marty Abrams was trying to win as many games as he could, so if he felt Mann-Dixon was better than Clark, I'm good with that. At the same time, I do understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that's fair.
 
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hawkeye guy

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Has anyone noticed that the Hawks have won 3 in a row, 2 against Cornwall and CP? Also noticed Henderson on the bench the last 2 games? Wonder if something is up in Hawkland? Enough WJAC talk lets look at the CCHL. Doing a lot of good stuff for Doef and Jan 10th coming up….always an interesting time of year!
 

Sny

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I never said that Russia, and the US sent their best players. I said Danemark brought their best possible team. Most of Danemark's players will be in Montreal and Toronto next week for the World Juniors. They only played in the World Junior A Challenge this year in order to get ready for the World Juniors.

That Russian team is their World Juniors B team. Tough to compete against that, although both Canadian teams did well against the Russians this year. Finally, the US team is compromised of all the top players in the USHL, and whether we like it or not, the USHL is way stronger than all Junior A leagues in Canada. Angelo from the US is a NHL 5th round pick along with three others who were taken in the last NHL Draft, Novak will be taken in the 1st round in 2015. More US players are also projected to go in the next draft. Not one player on Team Canada East has been drafted in the NHL, and if we're lucky, maybe one or two will be drafted in the 7th round of the 2015 draft. That's it. Bottom line is that players from Junior A leagues in Canada simply can't compete against those teams. This year's results are actually very good for Team Canada East, minus the 7-1 loss to the US. In order to make it fair, Team Canada would have to send their World Juniors B team to the World Junior A Challenge, and that's not going to happened because Canada would destroy all the other teams.

I do think that Jason Clarke is a great coach, but him coaching would make no difference. Even a guy like Mike Babcock was not going to win the gold medal with Team Canada East. Same thing for the goaltending situation, Clark might be as good as Mann-Dixon, I honestly think he has more potential, but he was not beating the US in the semis. And personally, I want to think that Marty Abrams was trying to win as many games as he could, so if he felt Mann-Dixon was better than Clark, I'm good with that. At the same time, I do understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that's fair.

Need to compare apples to apples here. Have Canada send one Junior team from its East and West Junior A league to this tournament. Then you would have the equivalent of what the US does with brining in all USHL players. The Canada Jr A can definitely compete with players from the USHL. USHL is a great league but like anything it may be a bit overrated, once you get past their elite players the rest fall within the normal distribution, the difference in players is a toss up. Also, don't get caught up with NHL draft picks. Besides the top picks (1st rounders), the rest are predominately picked based on size and potential. Does not mean they are elite and above the rest. To say that Canada Junior A players (East/West/etc... ) cannot compete is not fair. More then enough good players, in fact I would venture to say better players.
 

jolly roger

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Has anyone noticed that the Hawks have won 3 in a row, 2 against Cornwall and CP? Also noticed Henderson on the bench the last 2 games? Wonder if something is up in Hawkland? Enough WJAC talk lets look at the CCHL. Doing a lot of good stuff for Doef and Jan 10th coming up….always an interesting time of year!

In CCHL talk, what happens to Sean Green the second half? 3 good goalies at Pembroke, someone's going to move? Green could be playing anywhere except CP or the Sens, I'll bet it's not Piccolino who moves?
 

knowtherules

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In CCHL talk, what happens to Sean Green the second half? 3 good goalies at Pembroke, someone's going to move? Green could be playing anywhere except CP or the Sens, I'll bet it's not Piccolino who moves?

What about the # of 20 year olds? Will there be a big trade soon?
 

BigFrank

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Having 3 goalies going into playoffs is always a good move but not at the expense of losing an experienced 20 year old just to cover injury. Should be some interesting moves happening as teams jockey for position to make a run.
 

dirk

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Deadline Moves

The next few weeks will be very active. Cornwall really need to add some depth for the FPC..CPC will undoubtedly shake things up and I don't think Ottawa is done yet.

19 and 20 years olds are always targeted this time of year to add experience for playoff drives..

I think some big names will be on the move..
 

hardfacts

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The next few weeks will be very active. Cornwall really need to add some depth for the FPC..CPC will undoubtedly shake things up and I don't think Ottawa is done yet.

19 and 20 years olds are always targeted this time of year to add experience for playoff drives..

I think some big names will be on the move..

Great game in Pembroke last night for the fans but not for the coaches....it was the battle of who's goalie was worse and which defence stunk the most.
Both these teams will be looking to improve there defence from what I saw.
Pembroke gave up 2 goal leads twice in one game? After the first period CP was dominate gave up zero chances....but Pembroke's skill caused too late turnovers to tie and win.
As a hockey fan.....lets hope these two teams meet in playoffs again!!!
 

Jr A Fan

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Does anyone know why Brockville's playing Cornwall on December 28th. Thought all teams were off for the holidays.
 

Jr A Fan

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Well after watching Denmark in the Jr A final earlier against the US as well as their performance in the World Junior Tournament against some good teams, one must say that so far the top teams in the CCHL my not be world class but are sure worth watching. Can't wait for the season to resume.
 

Jr A Fan

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Kudos to former PLK,


GLENDALE, ARIZONA - Arizona Coyotes General Manager Don Maloney announced today that the Coyotes have recalled forward Tyler Gaudet from the Portland Pirates, the club's American Hockey League affiliate (AHL).

The 21-year-old native of Hamilton, Ontario has registered 4-4-8 and four penalty minutes (PIM) in 29 games with the Pirates this season. The 6-foot-3, 209-pound Gaudet appeared in two games with Portland in 2013-14 after recording 26-35-61 in 65 games with Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
 

dirk

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Trade Rumours

Deadline is only days away…there must be some moves planned?..

I think Hawksbury and Cornwall will look to add for push to the playoffs..

Some teams may be limited by the lack of remaining cards..
 

eddyshack

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Deadline is only days away…there must be some moves planned?..

I think Hawksbury and Cornwall will look to add for push to the playoffs..

Some teams may be limited by the lack of remaining cards..

I understand Cornwall Colts may have 4 cards. Based on last evenings game in Cumberland, they will need them.

3 Wins in the last 10 games ? Time to get to work.

Good for Cumberland Grads. Big 7 - 2 win.
 

dirk

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Available Impact Players

Just speculating but teams like Kanata and Cumberland do have some good players that top teams would covet in a trade..

Johnston in Kanata…Douglas and St. Pierre in Cumberland might be targets for contending teams looking to add..

Also think Kemptville my try to add to place as high as possible and avoid the 3 game mini playoff this year?
 

herbst20

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Per his Twitter Account, Ryker Killins has left Muskegon (USHL) and will join Carleton Place. He is a Ferris State Commit
 

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