Another 3 points effort for Luca Del Bel Belluz aswell. 2 goals 1 assist.
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I3LI3
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goodness, that announcer makes ears bleed instantly.
also when it comes to Luca, he’s improving tons.
LDBB last season:
1.11 PPG
LDBB so far this season:
1.53 PPG
Dumais has a goal and 3 assists today, about 9 minutes left in the second period. 
TheBeastCoast
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Dumais ends with a 6 point night. He is comfortably the best player in the Q.
Cowumbus
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I'm absolutely loving the Dumais comical video game bender. I think he's legit too which makes it even nicer.
I’m not here to trash the kid and I can’t claim to have seen much of him other than a bit in TC, but, how many times have we seen or has there been a guy to put up big offensive numbers in JR and it didn’t translate to the NHL or pro hockey at all really??
How many of you are literally basing your opinions on him on 15 second goal clips or 2 minute long highlight videos?? To add, plenty of these JR players/defenseman, are clearly just “bad” and mostly dumb hockey players.
A guy that watches Q games made a comment somewhat recently about Dumais tearing up these lower teams, and becoming quiet against the better teams, is that what we are seeing here?? And what can/should we take away from that??
How many of you are literally basing your opinions on him on 15 second goal clips or 2 minute long highlight videos?? To add, plenty of these JR players/defenseman, are clearly just “bad” and mostly dumb hockey players.
A guy that watches Q games made a comment somewhat recently about Dumais tearing up these lower teams, and becoming quiet against the better teams, is that what we are seeing here?? And what can/should we take away from that??
And another Q viewer just said he believes he is the best player in the league. Hes a 3rd round pick, 18 year old kid leading his league in goals and assists. That impressive for anyone.
Right. My point is him leading his JR league in points, might actually mean nothing at all moving forward. Abramov is seemingly a PERFECT example, looking at style of player, offensive statistics, and hype around here that Abramov got for a bit, that Dumais is now coming into it seems, imo.
1 guy stat dropped from 1 game, and is calling him “comfortably the best player in the Q”, seemingly because he’s simply leading the league in points.
Another guy added actual context as to who Dumais gets MANY of his points against, and also that he noticed he becomes quite a bit more quiet when playing against the better/best teams in the league.
Cowumbus
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Agreed. Especially in the Q.
To be fair, Halifax has notoriously produced/developed NHL talent
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Dumais vs teams in the top half of the league 2022/23:
7GP 4G 11A 15P
yeah hes only at 2.1 points per game against teams with winning records vs the 2.3 he is overall. Pretty drastic drop
Ok, let’s dig a little bit.
The league is EXTREMELY “top heavy”, and Halifax plays in the “much” easier division. 18 teams, Halifax pretty comfortably 3rd in the league in winning %. Again, the opposite division with less teams (8) has better teams.
Zero games so far against the 2 top teams in the league, Sherbrooke/Quebec. Much more should be taken from these games, than the others, IMO.
1 game against “4th ranked” Victoriaville, 2 assists ,-1, in a 4-3 OT loss.
2 games against “6th-7th ranked” Rouyn-Noranda, 1 assist in 2 games, ended up even over the 2 games. Both 3-2, OT/SO losses, the last of the 2, Halifax was outshot 46-20.
Zero games against Gatineau, who are seemingly comparable to R-N.
Other than Quebec, the only other team in Halifax’s division with a “plus” goal differential (2 goals) is “5th ranked” Moncton. They have just a marginally better winning % than Gatineau/R-N.
2 games against Moncton. 1 goal in game 1, in a 5-3 loss. This last game is seemingly the only game he put up big numbers against a “decent” team. Can’t say anything bad about a 6 point game, however, this last game seems to “skew” the numbers quite a bit when looking how he has fared against the “best” teams in the league this year.
The bottom 4 teams in Halifax’s division are terrible.
2 games against (81 goals against in 18 games played) Acadia-Bathurst, 9 points.
Hat trick in a 7-0 game against (76 goals against in 15 games) Saint John.
4 assists in 2 games vs Cape Breton
From just looking at things from a “statistical standpoint”, I think the point stands that he still has things to prove against the better teams in the league.
While you can only take away (in a negative sense) so much from it, a 6 point game changes these numbers considerably.
Samuel Johannesson having decent start of the season, averaging 18:30 time on ice.
One of his goals:
One of his goals:
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He had a rough time with Rögle, but has got more playing time and bounced back a little bit this year. As a Brynäs fan, I hope he gets to continue to perform well with them for a few more seasons.
TheBeastCoast
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I mean....I actually do watch a lot of Q hockey. I didn't just pull up the boxscore. I am not trying to imply he is some can't miss prospect. I think he has a lot of tools that will help him be successful as a pro and I also think he has the drive to improve on his weaknesses. I stand by him being the best player in the league with the gap growing. I get that Abramov is the cautionary tail but no one player is the same and while you can point to Abramov I can point to Garland and to me he is way way more similar to Garland then he is Abramov.
I3LI3
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Cowumbus
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I’m not sure it’s fair to make that point, it’s expected that your production goes down against good teams.
Gaudreau for the Jackets is 4GP 1G 0A -1 and if you include the Colorado games (who I expect to be a top team) 6GP 1G 1A -5
FWIW, they will play the two top teams Quebec Ramparts and Sherbrooke Phoenix back to back Jan 12 and Jan 14.
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I3LI3
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I'm going vote Dumais #1 in 2023 prospect polls. Doesnt even matter if we draft Bedard
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The hilarious thing about Dumais is that everyone's reason for ranking him outside of the first round (or, in Pronman's case, projecting him as an AHL guy) was saying that he's a bad skater and doesn't win puck battles.
Meanwhile, a few short/assorted excerpts from that Wheeler piece last week:
Faster than Joe Veleno, whose whole thing is that he's fast and athletic!
People give the Jackets S&C staff a lot of crap on these boards, but them focusing on jumping and power testing shows that they're actually ahead of the curve. Those outputs measure explosiveness.
Dumais, despite his tiny frame, more explosive/athletic than the average NHLer, according to that quote.
There's also a lot in that piece about him winning every puck battle and being one of their fastest and most competitive players.
I don't wanna get ahead of myself and slap a Gaudreau comp on this kid, but it sure is hard to not get really excited about this kid.
Cowumbus
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Just needs to work on going to the dirty areas, especially as a smaller guy, you can’t play only on the perimeter.
Oh I agree, but the Mooseheads staff seems to think he's already their best player in that regard.
In the same piece, his head coach says that he's their hardest-working, more relentless forward (says that they use his forecheck videos as teaching tape for the rest of the team) and his GM says that he's their best player along the wall and first guy back on the backcheck.
