Prospect Info: CBJ Prospect Thread XI

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You know, some people even think they have an idea of what his NHL career will look like at age 17, before the draft.
It had been a long night...didn't finish watching the game until around midnight. I don't know if Cole is a 1c or 2C and perhaps he will never be elite but I am not sure I would be ready to say he can't be more than a low end 1C. I know he exceeded my expectations for his rookie year.
 
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The much-anticipated arrival of Blue Jacketsprospect forward Kirill Marchenko is on the verge of taking an official step forward.

Marchenko, 21, is no longer under contract with Russia’s KHL. The deal he had with SKA St. Petersburg expired on Saturday, and the Blue Jackets are expected to move quickly to get him signed.

Expect a two-year deal, as dictated by the NHL’s collective bargaining agreement, to be announced by the Blue Jackets within the next day or two.

The NHL suspended its business relationship with the KHL in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, so the process of signing prospects has changed slightly, but a source told The Athleticthat Marchenko’s deal is imminent.

Marchenko’s agent, Mark Gandler, would not comment on the report this weekend when contacted by The Athletic.

“Yeah, he’s pretty good,” said Blue Jackets defenseman Vladislav Gavrikov, who played for SKA St. Petersburg for two seasons before making the leap to Columbus in 2019. Marchenko was just turning pro back then.

“I played with him a couple of years,” Gavrikov said. “I know him a lot. He’s a good, humble guy. He’s here with big skill, but he told me he needs to adjust to the North American style of hockey leagues.

“I’m pretty sure he’ll figure it out. It’s gonna be all right. I will help him as much as I can. Probably Chinny (Yegor Chinakhov) can help, as well.”
Marchenko is viewed as a middle-six winger with decent size (6-foot-3, 187 pounds), above-average skill, and more than adequate speed.

The Athletic’s prospect guru, Corey Pronman, rated Marchenko the Blue Jackets’ second-best prospect at the start of the 2021-22 season, trailing only Kent Johnson and one spot ahead of Cole Sillinger.

Marchenko will likely make his first trip to Columbus in mid-to-late August, along with his wife, Viktoria.

He won’t be expected to take part in Blue Jackets’ summer development camp — that’s for young prospects who haven’t yet turned pro — but is expected to play at the NHL Prospects Tournament next fall in Traverse City, Mich.

Nobody’s really sure how long it might take to secure a work visa for Marchenko, but by getting him signed early, the Blue Jackets are leaving plenty of time for red tape and paperwork.

Blue Jackets GM Jarmo Kekalainen would not discuss Marchenko’s signing when reached on Saturday. He answered two questions with the same line: “He’ll be here.”
 

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Hopefully he’s willing to play in the minors if he doesn’t make the cut. Would certainly make camp a lot more interesting. But glad to have him
 

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Hopefully he’s willing to play in the minors if he doesn’t make the cut. Would certainly make camp a lot more interesting. But glad to have him
I believe by several accounts he's more advanced than Chinakhov when he came over last year. That's not to start a fire war that Chinny should have or shouldn't have been in the NHL. You all can debate that, I'm merely stating he's supposedly further along with his game.

If that is in fact the case, I would think he'll be given every opportunity to play in the NHL next year. I think this has more impact on players like Foudy and Bemstrom. Heck maybe even Chinny... I'm just excited to see if he can bring even more to the table in Cbus. love the size, skating and skill set.
 
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I feel that Marchenko will be more ready for a top-9 role than Chinny was. Wouldn’t surprise me if he had a huge chip on his shoulder too given how much he’s been jerked around for the last few years by SKA. Excited to finally see him. Should fit the new mould of CBJ forwards excellently.
 

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I think he'll make the team. Way too early but fun to think about how he could do with Roslovic. From my limited viewing of Marchenko he's active defensively, has good hands and is smart and sound in the O zone, but doesn't really get through the neutral zone like crazy. Still a well rounded player though. Can move well at his size.

My mind was trying to make an Alex Tuch comp (both RH, similar numbers, puck skill, hands, size) so I started watching his puck pushing skill with a critical eye and it didn't hold up to that arbitrary player comp. That is admittedly a very high bar though. Put him with guys that can handle transitions and aren't clueless once they're in the O zone and I think he can contribute.
 
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I think he'll make the team. Way too early but fun to think about how he could do with Roslovic. From my limited viewing of Marchenko he's active defensively, has good hands and is smart and sound in the O zone, but doesn't really get through the neutral zone like crazy. Still a well rounded player though. Can move well at his size.

My mind was trying to make an Alex Tuch comp (both RH, similar numbers, puck skill, hands, size) so I started watching his puck pushing skill with a critical eye and it didn't hold up to that arbitrary player comp. That is admittedly a very high bar though. Put him with guys that can handle transitions and aren't clueless once they're in the O zone and I think he can contribute.
He doesn't seem to possess jaw-dropping dangling skills with the puck but the release on his snap and wrist shot looks quick. I'd also say he's got pretty good hands in-tight for 6'2 guy. Probably not the shiftiest forward prospect we have but I'm sure he can make some defenders look silly with his moves, in right circumstances.

I like how actively he uses his stick on the backcheck. Is there potential to grow into a Bjorkstrand/Stone type two-way winger (I know, that's another arbitrary and generous NHL player comp, it's not meant to be very accurate)? Who knows, maybe with a stronger upper body and a correct development path he could turn into a takeaway artist in the NHL? 1st/2nd line, all-situations winger?
 

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He doesn't seem to possess jaw-dropping dangling skills with the puck but the release on his snap and wrist shot looks quick. I'd also say he's got pretty good hands in-tight for 6'2 guy. Probably not the shiftiest forward prospect we have but I'm sure he can make some defenders look silly with his moves, in right circumstances.

I like how actively he uses his stick on the backcheck. Is there potential to grow into a Bjorkstrand/Stone type two-way winger (I know, that's another arbitrary and generous NHL player comp, it's not meant to be very accurate)? Who knows, maybe with a stronger upper body and a correct development path he could turn into a takeaway artist in the NHL? 1st/2nd line, all-situations winger?
Just wondering did we watch the same shift by shift video of his vs Jokerit? :laugh:

But yeah he impressed me with how involved he was all over the ice. After digging some he's not the player I thought he was based on highlights. He has enough stuff that he's good at to make me confident he'll be an NHLer.
 

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Just wondering did we watch the same shift by shift video of his vs Jokerit? :laugh:

But yeah he impressed me with how involved he was all over the ice. After digging some he's not the player I thought he was based on highlights. He has enough stuff that he's good at to make me confident he'll be an NHLer.
I guess we did. :) I watched it to refresh my memory of his skillset and to get new ideas for NHL comps. Ever since he was drafted, it's been hard for me to think of a player who plays exactly like him. That shift-by-shift video is already kind of outdated (1,5 years old) but at least there you can see him play against pros. VHL has their own youtube channel which probably contains more recent stuff from Marchenko but the competition is supposedly weaker in VHL playoffs than in KHL regular season games.
 

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He doesn't seem to possess jaw-dropping dangling skills with the puck but the release on his snap and wrist shot looks quick. I'd also say he's got pretty good hands in-tight for 6'2 guy. Probably not the shiftiest forward prospect we have but I'm sure he can make some defenders look silly with his moves, in right circumstances.

I like how actively he uses his stick on the backcheck. Is there potential to grow into a Bjorkstrand/Stone type two-way winger (I know, that's another arbitrary and generous NHL player comp, it's not meant to be very accurate)? Who knows, maybe with a stronger upper body and a correct development path he could turn into a takeaway artist in the NHL? 1st/2nd line, all-situations winger?

That's kind of what I see. He just seems like a smart all around player. But some fans think this guy is going to be a big playmaker for us or something. He really doesn't carry the puck much or make dazzling passes, more of a support guy that can finish.

Edit: Yes I watched the same video you two did, lol.
 

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That's kind of what I see. He just seems like a smart all around player. But some fans think this guy is going to be a big playmaker for us or something. He really doesn't carry the puck much or make dazzling passes, more of a support guy that can finish.

Edit: Yes I watched the same video you two did, lol.
Kind of funny but I was reading old scouting reports and saw him compared to Afinogenov in one scouting report which seems really weird and another was Filip Forsberg which seems a lot closer in my limited viewings but not sure its quite right
 
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That's kind of what I see. He just seems like a smart all around player. But some fans think this guy is going to be a big playmaker for us or something. He really doesn't carry the puck much or make dazzling passes, more of a support guy that can finish.

Edit: Yes I watched the same video you two did, lol.
I didn’t watch the YouTube that you guys are referring to, but I did watch a lot of his KHL and MHL games. I don’t really see the comparison to Tuch, to me he’s more of a guy who like you said is a “supporting” piece, mostly relied upon for scoring. He scores a lot off of the rush, breakaways and from cross ice passes. Stylistically I think he is closer to a guy like Tyler Toffoli, less physical though.



 
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I don’t really see the comparison to Tuch
Just to be clear I don't either. My mind jumped to that based on superficial stuff (including his number being similar:laugh:) and that's what led me to hone in on his play driving since that's what I notice most with Tuch. The Toffoli style comp works better than anyone else I've thought of honestly.
 

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I didn’t watch the YouTube that you guys are referring to, but I did watch a lot of his KHL and MHL games. I don’t really see the comparison to Tuch, to me he’s more of a guy who like you said is a “supporting” piece, mostly relied upon for scoring. He scores a lot off of the rush, breakaways and from cross ice passes. Stylistically I think he is closer to a guy like Tyler Toffoli, less physical though.




I like the Toffoli comp, good call. Been trying to think of one but there's always a glaring attribute that Kirill doesn't share with some of the other comps, but Toffoli is pretty spot on.
 
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So Marchenko's contract isn't on CapFriendly yet and I haven't been able to find this. Does the two year deal start next season or are we doing the "burn a year of his ELC thing" with year one being the '21-'22 season?
 

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So Marchenko's contract isn't on CapFriendly yet and I haven't been able to find this. Does the two year deal start next season or are we doing the "burn a year of his ELC thing" with year one being the '21-'22 season?
I dont think its possible to burn a year since there are no games to be played. We dont even know when/if he'll be able to come over.
 

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So Marchenko's contract isn't on CapFriendly yet and I haven't been able to find this. Does the two year deal start next season or are we doing the "burn a year of his ELC thing" with year one being the '21-'22 season?
Marchenko's contract is on the CBJ CapFriendly page. Because his contract does not officially begin until 2022-2023 season he won't show up on the top of the page with the active roster because it is still technically the 2021-2022 season and he is not on this season's active roster.

Scroll down the CBJ page to the "non-active roster". There you will find Marchenko along with other players not on the active roster but under CBJ control for next season like Stenlund, Dunne, Foudy, Tyler Anfle and TFW.
 
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Marchenko's contract is on the CBJ CapFriendly page. Because his contract does not officially begin until 2022-2023 season he won't show up on the top of the page with the active roster because it is still technically the 2021-2022 season and he is not on this season's active roster.

Scroll down the CBJ page to the "non-active roster". There you will find Marchenko along with other players not on the active roster but under CBJ control for next season like Stenlund, Dunne, Foudy, Tyler Anfle and TFW.

Just updated, thanks. The two-year deal did not show up when I checked earlier today.
 

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do you guys think he can reach his full bonus for the second year ?
 

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