CBJ Board Other Sports Thread: Part VIII
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Viqsi
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And now, a summary of my reaction when I discovered today's news in re: the Crew:
"They traded WHO?"
"TO WHERE?"
"FOR WHAT?!?!?!?!"
Someone with more MLS Clue please explain to me how this isn't a reason to just give up completely on the new Crew front office right here and now. Because last I checked there is no league where it is sane, reasonable, or productive to trade a star at a position you're not very strong at for cap space and a far-future late-round draft pick.
"They traded WHO?"
"TO WHERE?"
"FOR WHAT?!?!?!?!"
Someone with more MLS Clue please explain to me how this isn't a reason to just give up completely on the new Crew front office right here and now. Because last I checked there is no league where it is sane, reasonable, or productive to trade a star at a position you're not very strong at for cap space and a far-future late-round draft pick.
Fro
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b/c Marshall is one injury away from being done...i guess that's about it...also in 2014 there's a poison pill clause that could kick his contract up over 500k....the right move, we can replace him with a younger player and also have some cash to buy some attackers...
some think its to save up for a legit designated player...
some think its to save up for a legit designated player...
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
Fro
Cheatin on CBJ w TBL
for some reason in the MLS allocation money is the end all, be all...not sure i totally get it...i don't have the same hatred for Seattle others do...wish we could have traded him for a goal scorer...but we'll see what the new regime has in store
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Mack Brown out at Texas.
The real irony is that he became exactly what he railed against initially. When he got there after succeeding John Mackovic, Texas had been branded "The Tea-Sippers Club", having created their own insular world of flash and money in a blue-collar state that loves blue-collar football. Brown turned that around, winning conference and a national championship with a flashy but brutally physical and tough team.
And then after that, it's what he embraced...flash and money at the expense of toughness. Meanwhile, just as they had when Mackovic was around, Texas A&M was able to brand themselves as the blue-collar school with the blue-collar program, leading to their own unexpected resurgence.
The real irony is that he became exactly what he railed against initially. When he got there after succeeding John Mackovic, Texas had been branded "The Tea-Sippers Club", having created their own insular world of flash and money in a blue-collar state that loves blue-collar football. Brown turned that around, winning conference and a national championship with a flashy but brutally physical and tough team.
And then after that, it's what he embraced...flash and money at the expense of toughness. Meanwhile, just as they had when Mackovic was around, Texas A&M was able to brand themselves as the blue-collar school with the blue-collar program, leading to their own unexpected resurgence.
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As a resident of Austin, I'm not exactly sure where you get your info. From what I can gather from various news reports and such he fell victim to the flash and money guys who have great influence over the program. Throw in a new AD and a couple of less than great seasons and that is the reason he is out.
And as far as A&M goes, if they don't get hit in the head with Johnny Manziel far exceeding anyone's expectations last year and a move to the SEC, I don't think they are anything. And exactly how and where did A&M brand itself as a blue collar program? To me their brand is Johnny Football and a rep built on knocking off Alabama last year. Flash and dash? Yes. Blue collar? NFW.
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To me, Mack Brown became a mirror image of Philip Fulmer. I regularly correspond with an old friend who's coached off and on in Texas for the last 10 years at the high school level, and what I've heard from him is the same I used to hear about Fulmer.
Both Brown and Fulmer were able to position themselves as excellent recruiters, but they eventually got to the point where it seemed like they were doing you a favor by being contacted. Both suffered from significant issues developing talent; they could both rake in four- and five-star recruits, then do nothing with them. And both missed on a lot of in-state talent; Fulmer missed on Patrick Willis because he really liked a complete head case named Daniel Brooks. Of course, Mack Brown missed on Andrew Luck because Brown didn't think Luck was fully committed to the Longhorns as a junior in high school. Fulmer had initially made a name by getting a handful of lightly-recruited project players and developing them; once the Vols had success, he couldn't be bothered to so much as look at a kid like that.
Word gets around pretty quickly with the high schools. If a college coach is a complete pain to deal with, it's going to hurt their ability to recruit. One thing that crippled Charlie Weis at Notre Dame was exactly that; he managed to infuriate nearly every Catholic school coach in the Midwest in record time, which damaged what should have been a natural pipeline of talent. John Cooper had much the same set of issues, and part of Tressel's in-state recruiting ability was repairing those relationships. Tressel would send congratulatory cards to each newly-hired high school head coach in the state, and occasionally a "best of luck" one to someone who either resigned or was fired as coach.
From an image and recruiting standpoint, it more or less started with Mike Sherman. He had it easy; Brown was going after four- and five-star kids, and Sherman could call up a three-star guy and say, "Mack Brown won't even call you or write a form letter since you broke your leg. I'm committing to you right now if you'll commit to us." Among the coaching fraternity, I've heard plenty that more vastly preferred Sherman and now Sumlin to Brown.
That's how Sherman got Ryan Tannehill to College Station. "Hey, Mack Brown won't talk to you, and your old man played at Texas Tech and they won't even give you a phone call. They don't think you can play; come join us and show them that they missed out on something special."
The Browns should seriously consider drafting Roby and Shazier from OSU, next year. What they really need is two more guys who have been thoroughly trained not to cover a pass.
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Browns need a quaterback, just like every other year. The defense is okay to good most games, but they get tired from being on the field for 75% of the game. Too many 3 and outs because the offense is pathetic.
Browns need a QB, another good receiver, a decent running back, another good corner and some line depth on both sides of the ball. In that order.
I disagree with the bolded portion and can't think of a single position anywhere on the team that does not need upgrading.
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