Confirmed with Link: Carter Hart Officially Charged With One Count Of Sexual Assault (Per His Lawyers); Non-roster, salary cap info in OP

[Hollywood Cannon]

It's strange that Carter put out the statement years ago that he had nothing to do with this incident. The others on indefinite absence didn't.

What I don't understand, is that this case was originally settled out of court right? The plaintiff was granted 3.5 mil in damages. So we essentially know that the players are guilty, but I thought the court settlement would end that?

She reached a settlement with Hockey Canada. That doesn't mean that there was any guilt nor did it settle anything with the players themselves. The victim filed lawsuits against Hockey Canada and CHL.

Criminal charges are completely different.

 

[GKJ]

It's strange that Carter put out the statement years ago that he had nothing to do with this incident. The others on indefinite absence didn't.

What I don't understand, is that this case was originally settled out of court right? The plaintiff was granted 3.5 mil in damages. So we essentially know that the players are guilty, but I thought the court settlement would end that?

That was settled with Hockey Canada

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

How dumb is the NHL to time the Utah news after the report? What a terribly run organization

The NHL’s entire PR strategy is based around the fact that the general public & media here in the US largely don’t give a shit about them.

 

[BritainStix]

That was settled with Hockey Canada

So, dunce hat time. Should this go to court under criminal charges, and the players are found not guilty, does that mean Hockey Canada can sue for that 3.5mil back? Or was it a case that they were charged on the handling of the incident?

Sorry, I have no idea how US/Canadian law works.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Independent of all this, and separate from the case entirely, one person who I can't help think about in this moment is the autistic kid who bought a Hart #79 jersey, who people kept reporting was the reason Hart kept that number. That poor kid is going to have some feelings bound up in all this.

That was the very first thing I thought of the first time I heard about all of this.

 

[GKJ]

So, dunce hat time. Should this go to court under criminal charges, and the players are found not guilty, does that mean Hockey Canada can sue for that 3.5mil back?

Sorry, I have no idea how US/Canadian law works.

If they settled I’d image not.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Alternatively, being found innocent of a crime doesn't necessarily mean they didn't do it.

You mean not being convicted? Sure.

But I don’t think it’s healthy for a society to live by “guilty until proven innocent.”

 

[Hockeyville USA]

The NHL’s entire PR strategy is based around the fact that the general public & media here in the US largely don’t give a shit about them.

Although the only time the non hockey media really talk about the NHL (excluding SportsCenter highlights) is when negative things happen in hockey, but it's usually limited to US based teams. The majority of people in the States have no clue what junior hockey/World Junior is so this might just appear as a headline and then no one will look into it.

 

[freakydallas13]

It's strange that Carter put out the statement years ago that he had nothing to do with this incident. The others on indefinite absence didn't.

What I don't understand, is that this case was originally settled out of court right? The plaintiff was granted 3.5 mil in damages. So we essentially know that the players are guilty, but I thought the court settlement would end that?

Might be the difference of the settlement being a civil case, and now the police are pursuing a criminal case? Not a lawyer, just spitballing.

 

[Embiid]

One thing for sure when it comes to sexual assault, you can’t assume anything. I dated a woman years ago, who was a childhood sexual assault counselor. It is so common. It’s absolutely staggering. The statistics are horrifying.

This is sadly very true and if one is single and in the dating world, it is prudent to take this into consideration when attempting to form an intimate/romantic relationship with a woman. In my younger years I had a blind spot but in my later years came to understand how many women have experienced sexual abuse in some form in their lifetimes. Some have been open and honest with me....others I suspect they harbored trauma and they usually project it in damaging ways....intimacy issues, bipolarism, etc. It really sucks..

 

[Beef Invictus]

So, dunce hat time. Should this go to court under criminal charges, and the players are found not guilty, does that mean Hockey Canada can sue for that 3.5mil back? Or was it a case that they were charged on the handling of the incident?

Sorry, I have no idea how US/Canadian law works.

Nope. The settlement is Hockey Canada looking at the facts and deciding that they are better off paying 3.5 millions of human currency to buy the problem away rather than it going any further. It's money they volunteered away. It isn't like a wrongful conviction.

 

[Curufinwe]

Good for Dan, but it was blindingly obvious that no one involved in the investigation was going to get traded while it was still ongoing.

 

[BritainStix]

US law is f***ing wild.

So its been 5 years since the incident and they are only now getting charged?

What the actual f***.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Good for Dan, but it was blindingly obvious that no one involved in the investigation was going to get traded while it was still ongoing.

All of this was rumored at the time. This isn't really new info; it's just more confirmed than it was.


So, the positive news is that we've learned something about the reliability of the NHL rumor apparatus!

 

[Hockeyville USA]

US law is f***ing wild.

So its been 5 years since the incident and they are only now getting charged?

What the actual f***.

This happened in Canada

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

US law is f***ing wild.

So its been 5 years since the incident and they are only now getting charged?

What the actual f***.

It’s Canadian. The incident took place in Canada & is being handled by Canadian authorities & the Canadian court system.

Not to say the US system would be above giving special treatment to noteworthy people in incidents like this.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

US law is f***ing wild.

So its been 5 years since the incident and they are only now getting charged?

What the actual f***.

It happened in Canada and it was basically covered up which has delayed everything.

 

[Beef Invictus]

US law is f***ing wild.

So its been 5 years since the incident and they are only now getting charged?

What the actual f***.

You people had debt laws that revolved around a massive game of tag where if you got touched by a stick, you went to debtors prison. And there were "safe areas" where you couldn't be touched. And our law is descended from yours.

What I'm saying is life would be a lot more interesting if we brought that back

 

[Curufinwe]

US law is f***ing wild.

They're in Canada, mate.

Pretty sure the statute of limitations on rape is a longer than 5 years in a lot of countries.

 

[Rebels57]

Are you kidding me? Sexual assault such as pulling a train on an inebriated woman isn't rare with teenage males? You run in a rough neighborhood. Sure it happens but it isn't a common thing.

Grew up in Northeast Philly where just about everyone was drunk and or high 100% of the time every weekend starting at like 15 years old, and never once heard of this type of thing happening. Anyone trying to normalize it is wrong.

 

[dragonoffrost]

US law is f***ing wild.

So its been 5 years since the incident and they are only now getting charged?

What the actual f***.

This is Canada but yes the US is also as slow...

 

[Danko]

Clearly Terrible, feel horribly for the victim, if they are charged and found guilty then they deserve to be permabanned. From a hockey/cap perspective, these players can have contracts terminated and would not count contracts towards the cap, correct?

 

[wankstifier]

Wonder if the five accused are out of the league even if the charges are dropped.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Clearly Terrible, feel horribly for the victim, if they are charged and found guilty then they deserve to be permabanned. From a hockey/cap perspective, these players can have contracts terminated and would not count contracts towards the cap, correct?

That is the current precedent

 

[BritainStix]

This happened in Canada

It’s Canadian. The incident took place in Canada & is being handled by Canadian authorities & the Canadian court system.

Not to say the US system would be above giving special treatment to noteworthy people in incidents like this.

It happened in Canada and it was basically covered up which has delayed everything.

They're in Canada, mate.

Pretty sure the statute of limitations on rape is a longer than 5 years in a lot of countries.

This is Canada but yes the US is also as slow...

So that's Canada with a C, right?