Rumor: Carolina had a deal in place for Gibson at the deadline, but backed out

[Legion34]

We are not sending any of our boys to Buffalo.

did you think you were sending your boy to detroit?

 

[Wolfpuck]

To Anaheim: Eichel
To Carolina: Gibson
To Buffalo: 3rd OA + Warren Foegele + Jake Bean + Ryan Suzuki

Other shoe that drops for Carolina with Ned moving. Only thing holding up the Canes' obvious need is the league wanting to milk the trade for the Draft show.

That’s…not the worst thing I’ve ever seen…

Maybe the Ducks add a bit?

 

[Lempo]

did you think you were sending your boy to detroit?

His girl goes to Michigan U, he's good.

 

[Moosetache]

When was the last time a major, total blockbuster of a deal was made for a goaltender? The last two I can think of were Patrick Roy in 1995-1996, and Dominik Hasek the 2001 offseason.

The trade for Roy:

Roy and captain Mike Keane to Colorado for 20-year-old goalie Jocelyn Thibault and wingers Martin Rucinsky and Andrei Kovalenko.

Goalies aren't worth what people think they are worth, especially analytically.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

The trade for Roy:

Roy and captain Mike Keane to Colorado for 20-year-old goalie Jocelyn Thibault and wingers Martin Rucinsky and Andrei Kovalenko.

Goalies aren't worth what people think they are worth, especially analytically.

...you seriously took maybe the worst trade in Montreal Canadiens history to show that goalies aren't worth much??...no, that was Rejean Houle that wasn't worth much there...terrible example...

 

[terranraida]

You said Aho for Gibson++++ is fair but Gibson isn’t a base for Aho

That's just being pedantic. if it's a package deal of Zegras 3rd ovr gibson and the keys to the honda center it isn't gibson ++++, it's a package of all the assets in which gibson is apart of.

Christ on his cross.

 

[lwvs84]

Can we just rent out Gibson to Carolina next season? Something like Gibson for 2022 1st+conditional 2023 2nd (if Canes win the Cup and Gibby plays half or more of the playoff games), then after the season Gibson back to Anaheim for future considerations. Canes become a powerhouse next season, Gibson remembers what it's like to play behind a real team again, and Ducks probably get one of those top 3 picks

 

[Moosetache]

...you seriously took maybe the worst trade in Montreal Canadiens history to show that goalies aren't worth much??...no, that was Rejean Houle that wasn't worth much there...terrible example...

Well I was responding to the other poster saying "huge blockbuster of a trade for a goaltender"....well that wasnt really a blockbuster. It was Roy for scraps as it turned out.

 

[Roboturner913]

Roy basically forced that trade so Montreal had no leverage. Also Thibault was a super high end prospect at the time. I think they probably did about as well as they could have.

 

[Sens]

Thibault was 10th overall… would be viewed like Spencer Knight today

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yes. The reactions by these people are hilarious. I apologize if my presence here offended you.

Didn’t offend me at all. Just having fun pointing out that your post said this is a nothingburger that should be ignored, yet you couldn’t restrain yourself and ignore the thread yourself.

 

[SECRET SQUIRREL]

What about Schneider? Rask? Flip side, the greatest goalie of all time got traded for Slava frigging Kozlov.... all depends on the circumstances. I know that I've recently read that Gibson isn't available but after seeing this, could that just be a half assed b/s statement from Murray to keep Gibson's value/moral up ?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

What about Schneider? Rask? Flip side, the greatest goalie of all time got traded for Slava frigging Kozlov.... all depends on the circumstances. I know that I've recently read that Gibson isn't available but after seeing this, could that just be a half assed b/s statement from Murray to keep Gibson's value/moral up ?

Vancouver was in a situation where everyone knew they were forced to move a goalie, and still got a top 10 pick for Schneider. Anaheim has no reason to move Gibson unless they feel the offer will make them a better team moving forward.

Rask was moved as a prospect, doesn't apply.

Hasek demanded to be traded to a contender, was moved for a top 6 F + a 1st round pick.

Like you said, all depends on the circumstances. Gibson just signed a long term deal, hasn't demanded a trade. Absolutely nothing forcing the Ducks hand, if he's dealt under these circumstances - the offer will surely need to be tremendous.

To the couple of posters saying a team shouldn't take him for free...just embarrassing to be on here analyzing players when you're that clueless.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

If Colorado and Grubauer are not even close on numbers then I have a hard time believing the Canes will offer him much more. I would guess the Canes sign a player like Ullmark or Andersen to a 1 year deal to parlay a big contract.

Would Carolina want Andersen after the bad blood from the draft? I doubt he goes to Carolina after that

 

[SECRET SQUIRREL]

Vancouver was in a situation where everyone knew they were forced to move a goalie, and still got a top 10 pick for Schneider. Anaheim has no reason to move Gibson unless they feel the offer will make them a better team moving forward.

Rask was moved as a prospect, doesn't apply.

Hasek demanded to be traded to a contender, was moved for a top 6 F + a 1st round pick.

Like you said, all depends on the circumstances. Gibson just signed a long term deal, hasn't demanded a trade. Absolutely nothing forcing the Ducks hand, if he's dealt under these circumstances - the offer will surely need to be tremendous.

To the couple of posters saying a team shouldn't take him for free...just embarrassing to be on here analyzing players when you're that clueless.

I totally agree with you, he's absolutely not a cap dump, that's pure idiocy. Imo his value is probably down a little bit but he's still a very good goalie. I'm just wondering if he's actually available right now or not is all.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Would Carolina want Andersen after the bad blood from the draft? I doubt he goes to Carolina after that

I don't think that's an issue. The entire ownership/management group is different now. The Owner, GM, AGM, VPs, Scouts, coaches, etc..are complete changed over since he was drafted and spurned Carolina years ago.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Would Carolina want Andersen after the bad blood from the draft? I doubt he goes to Carolina after that

Canes won’t want him because he’s just not that good anymore especially if he can’t stay healthy. Leafs squeezed all the juice they could out of that orange

 

[Svechhammer]

Would Carolina want Andersen after the bad blood from the draft? I doubt he goes to Carolina after that

I wouldn't want him because he's really not enough of an improvement over what we already had to make it worthwhile

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Still no leaks on this trade?

 

[GiveYouABagOfPucks]

Still no leaks on this trade?

The Bob Murray way.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Canes won’t want Andersen because he’s just not that good anymore especially if he can’t stay healthy. Leafs squeezed all the juice they could out of that orange

Apparently Carolina likes squeezed oranges

 

[spockBokk]

Still no leaks on this trade?

If details haven’t leaked by now, what on earth makes you think they’d leak now, months after?

 

[SensontheRush]

If details haven’t leaked by now, what on earth makes you think they’d leak now, months after?

I guess you haven't heard of a thing called "History"?

 

[spockBokk]

I guess you haven't heard of a thing called "History"?

I suppose you haven’t heard of a thing called logic

 

[Zerotonine]

If there was or is any truth to Gibson being available I have no idea why or how Holland hasn't been taping the ducks phone lines.