Player Discussion Carey Price - Moving Home Edition

[Lafleurs Guy]

So my interpretation of what he said was he's never going to play regular season hockey for an extended period of time ever again but would play in short stints ie the playoffs. Would be interesting though to see Carey play with a well built team for once in 2ish years

Imagine if he could make a postseason run. Geez.

 

[Ezpz]

Get him the same stem cell shots that Rey Mysterio did. The guy was crippled ten years ago and is flying around now like he's 18 again.

I still think it would be great if Carey suddenly announced he was good to play again after the rebuild is done. We definitely have the cap space to fit him back in next season. I will just keep dreaming it is a very long Kucherov scam.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Imagine if he could make a postseason run. Geez.

That'd be a dream come true honestly. The man deserves a cup so he can go down as the unanimous greatest Habs goalie of all time because unfortunately, although he's more talented and quite frankly better than Dryden or Roy, he'll never get the esteem from a huge portion of fans until he wins a cup

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

That'd be a dream come true honestly. The man deserves a cup so he can go down as the unanimous greatest Habs goalie of all time because unfortunately, although he's more talented and quite frankly better than Dryden or Roy, he'll never get the esteem from a huge portion of fans until he wins a cup

I don’t know about greatest ever but I’d sure love to see him win a cup.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I don’t know about greatest ever but I’d sure love to see him win a cup.

He has all the records, he has the personal trophies, he has the personal stats, and all he's missing is the cup. Context matters and those other two especially Dryden had way better teams in front of them. Carey's best team was probably 2014 and their no. 1 C was Desharnais lol

 

[the valiant effort]

Before the Price era of goalies, a 2-on-1 rush usually meant a SOG was a goal.

I share everyone’s dream of a miracle playoff run lol, but he’ll never be game-ready for such a task ever again.

 

[Andrei79]

So my interpretation of what he said was he's never going to play regular season hockey for an extended period of time ever again but would play in short stints ie the playoffs. Would be interesting though to see Carey play with a well built team for once in 2ish years

He said hes trying to rehab his knee "for life in general". He can't even train for his position. He's in his 30s with two years without hockey. What he's saying is he's completely done.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

He said hes trying to rehab his knee "for life in general". He can't even train for his position. He's in his 30s with two years without hockey. What he's saying is he's completely done.

I'm just reading between the lines. He ruled out playing in the regular season over an extended period of time. He said he can't play in long stints. He never mentioned anything about playoff hockey which is 2 months at most. The man risked his knee for a playoff run once, who's to say he won't do it again.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I'm just reading between the lines. He ruled out playing in the regular season over an extended period of time. He said he can't play in long stints. He never mentioned anything about playoff hockey which is 2 months at most. The man risked his knee for a playoff run once, who's to say he won't do it again.

I think it’s a pipe dream. I’d love to see him come back but I’m pretty sure he’s done.

 

[holy]

I'm just reading between the lines. He ruled out playing in the regular season over an extended period of time. He said he can't play in long stints. He never mentioned anything about playoff hockey which is 2 months at most. The man risked his knee for a playoff run once, who's to say he won't do it again.

That would make me bust a nut as a Price lover.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

He has all the records, he has the personal trophies, he has the personal stats, and all he's missing is the cup. Context matters and those other two especially Dryden had way better teams in front of them. Carey's best team was probably 2014 and their no. 1 C was Desharnais lol

Roy is the best and there is no conversation to be had. Using stats to compare goalies from different eras is as intellectually dishonest an exercise as you can do.

 

[ReHabs]

Roy is the best and there is no conversation to be had. Using stats to compare goalies from different eras is as intellectually dishonest an exercise as you can do.

As an aside, how do you rank (why) Roy, Hasek, and Brodeur?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

As an aside, how do you rank (why) Roy, Hasek, and Brodeur?

Hasek is the greatest goaltender that I have ever seen but he was fragile physically and mentally and Brodeur was great but overrated imo. Brodeur was insulated by the greatest defensive teams in the history of the game and was helped by rules that allowed him to play the puck alot more than the modern day goaltender.

Roy was the most intense of the three and is the only one of the three to entirely carry a team to a Stanley Cup championship...twice!

If you asked me which goalie I would want in a best of 7 Stanley Cup final:

Roy
Hasek
Brodeur

 

[SOLR]

That'd be a dream come true honestly. The man deserves a cup so he can go down as the unanimous greatest Habs goalie of all time because unfortunately, although he's more talented and quite frankly better than Dryden or Roy, he'll never get the esteem from a huge portion of fans until he wins a cup

I always read that and always think to myself, yeah no way.

I think it’s a pipe dream. I’d love to see him come back but I’m pretty sure he’s done.

I had a similar knee injury to Price, and it took 3 years to heal, now I'm fine. Who knows, some injuries are just a lot more long-term than people imagine.

 

[Andrei79]

I'm just reading between the lines. He ruled out playing in the regular season over an extended period of time. He said he can't play in long stints. He never mentioned anything about playoff hockey which is 2 months at most. The man risked his knee for a playoff run once, who's to say he won't do it again.

If you read between the lines, he's saying he's done.

 

[waitin425]

Players can be great without winning a cup.....but......they become legends when they do.

Sad to see Pricey go without his moment.

I guess we will always have this.....

 

[BLONG7]

Roy is the best and there is no conversation to be had. Using stats to compare goalies from different eras is as intellectually dishonest an exercise as you can do.

Just throwing it out there..................Roy had hall of fame players out in front of him, and Price had ONE 80 pt player out in front of him in his rookie year.

Both Roy and Price were amazing goalies.....there is no question, but people have very selective memories when it comes to Roy and his play. Ask the Bruins fans, whose teams beat Roy like a rented mule in the playoffs.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Roy is the best and there is no conversation to be had. Using stats to compare goalies from different eras is as intellectually dishonest an exercise as you can do.

Roy is a great all time goalie. But also overrated. But we’ve been down this debate before…

Roy was inconsistent in the playoffs. Never had a big upset series win. Was great in two cups but had an easy path to them due to luck.

He earned his Smythes. Nobody can take it away from him. But other goalies were more consistent and had bigger upsets on their championship runs. For all the talk of Dryden being on better teams, he actually had a couple of huge upsets to his credit. Beating the 72 Bruins was like beating the mid 80s Oilers but he doesn’t get the credit he deserves for it. Roy on the other hand was absolutely brutal on many occasions. Bad enough that we lost some series we should’ve won. Really inconsistent.

As for Hasek, he’s just flat out the best.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Roy is the best and there is no conversation to be had. Using stats to compare goalies from different eras is as intellectually dishonest an exercise as you can do.

As an aside, how do you rank (why) Roy, Hasek, and Brodeur?

Hasek is the greatest goaltender that I have ever seen but he was fragile physically and mentally and Brodeur was great but overrated imo. Brodeur was insulated by the greatest defensive teams in the history of the game and was helped by rules that allowed him to play the puck alot more than the modern day goaltender.

Roy was the most intense of the three and is the only one of the three to entirely carry a team to a Stanley Cup championship...twice!

If you asked me which goalie I would want in a best of 7 Stanley Cup final:

Roy
Hasek
Brodeur

We need to stop being homers and admit that Brodeur and Hasek were just plain better. Roy had the privilege of having better teams in front of him in Colorado and wasn't putting up the numbers that the other two were in the exact same era. Taking nothing away from Roy, he's still probably top 5 all time but people point to 93 and treat him like a god but won't do the same for let's say Dryden and 71

 

[BLONG7]

As an aside, how do you rank (why) Roy, Hasek, and Brodeur?

Hasek ( Carried teams had no business being in the playoffs )
Brodeur ( NJ wall during their domination, played so many games )
Roy ( Amazing in the playoffs most years, but inconsistent too )

Amazing goalies all 3

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We need to stop being homers and admit that Brodeur and Hasek were just plain better. Roy had the privilege of having better teams in front of him in Colorado and wasn't putting up the numbers that the other two were in the exact same era. Taking nothing away from Roy, he's still probably top 5 all time but people point to 93 and treat him like a god but won't do the same for let's say Dryden and 71

Price is not in the conversation unfortunately. I think with better teams he would’ve been up there for sure though. Resume wise, it’s not there. Talent wise? I’d have taken him over Roy. I think he was a better, more consistent goalie with great puck handling. But he’s got no cups… he’s not in the conversation.

Not only do bad teams hold him back but the injuries are problematic as well. They came at the worst times too. 2013 and 2014 playoffs. I think we’d have made the finals in 14 if he’d been healthy but we’ll never know. In 2016 it was looking like back to back Harts but he got hurt… just really unlucky from that perspective.

Great freaking goalie though. At his best he was up there with the best players in the league. He doesn’t have the resume of the goalies mentioned here but there’s no doubt in my mind that he’d have won multiple cups with those Roy teams. Multiple playoff upsets, some huge ones. A shame he had Desharnais as his centre.. what a freaking waste. We should’ve come away with at least one cup.

Great goalie. At his best in the playoffs. HOFer and should be first ballot.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

We need to stop being homers and admit that Brodeur and Hasek were just plain better. Roy had the privilege of having better teams in front of him in Colorado and wasn't putting up the numbers that the other two were in the exact same era. Taking nothing away from Roy, he's still probably top 5 all time but people point to 93 and treat him like a god but won't do the same for let's say Dryden and 71

Disagree entirely, Roy never played on a defensive juggernaut like Brodeur and neither Brodeur or Hasek ever reached the heights that Roy did.

 

[BLONG7]

Disagree entirely, Roy never played on a defensive juggernaut like Brodeur and neither Brodeur or Hasek ever reached the heights that Roy did.

To each is own.............opinions are just that.
The one thing with Roy, is there is a ton of selective memory going on.
The Habs had a 45 year run of not losing to the Bruins in the playoffs, and along came Roy and stunk it up a couple of those series, and the likes of Bourque and Neely made him look bad, real bad. It makes sense we only remember his great playoff performances, but boy there was some stinky ones too.

As I had said earlier, all 3 were amazing.......

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Disagree entirely, Roy never played on a defensive juggernaut like Brodeur and neither Brodeur or Hasek ever reached the heights that Roy did.

Yes and price never reach the heights that Corey Crawford did what's your point. Roy played on near super teams with Colorado and his numbers with the Habs werent even good. Also after Patrick Roy's three vezinas which weren't even in very competive years, he never won a Vezina again after Dominic Hasek went to Buffalo/brodeurs rookie season. So basically when all were in their prime on goodish teams (Roy being on the best one) he never beat out the other two as the league's best goalie. He was only able to win basically before they showed up.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Disagree entirely, Roy never played on a defensive juggernaut like Brodeur

Whaaaat?????

Robinson, Gainey, Chelios, McPhee, Ludwig, Green, Carbo, Skrudland… multiple Norris and Selke winners. All playing in a tight defensive system. We were the Devils before the Devils.

and neither Brodeur or Hasek ever reached the heights that Roy did.

Hasek led THE BUFFALO SABRES to a cup final. He beat Roy head to head in the Olympics and in Detroit. Brodeur won multiple cups as well.