OT: Career advice Part II

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So I got an email today about a Finance lead role at a startup. Apparently it reports directly to the COO. So it seems a bit ambitious since my experience has been as an analyst but it's a startup (although not a super tiny one) . But I'm going to try to schedule a call (I emailed him back) to find out more. I'm getting a bunch of opportunities since changing careers it's nice to see.
 
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While I don't have the popularity that Sean Avery has, doing blogs/podcasts/vlogs call it how you want, it is a decent way to earn a few bucks on the side.
There's Avery, what a beauty! lol Guy knew exactly what he did as a player, like the Brodeur thing. lol He decided to keep quiet and he does make a lot of sense, much more tha nanticipated.

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GRRR need to rant. Had everything lined up and now didn't get approved by a lease company to help finance equipment I need to purchase. She strung me along and made it sound like it was a done deal! In turn I told my bank, who was TERRIBLE at getting back to me, that I no longer needed a loan. Now I have to run back to them with my tail between my legs lol. Fingers crossed 1) I get approved and 2) I don't have to pay rent if I'm not fully operational. My credit score is immaculate and honestly I thought my income is plenty.

But 18 year old me can walk into a bank and get a student loan and get raped for 10+ years paying it back. Makes no f***ing sense.
 

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GRRR need to rant. Had everything lined up and now didn't get approved by a lease company to help finance equipment I need to purchase. She strung me along and made it sound like it was a done deal! In turn I told my bank, who was TERRIBLE at getting back to me, that I no longer needed a loan. Now I have to run back to them with my tail between my legs lol. Fingers crossed 1) I get approved and 2) I don't have to pay rent if I'm not fully operational. My credit score is immaculate and honestly I thought my income is plenty.

But 18 year old me can walk into a bank and get a student loan and get raped for 10+ years paying it back. Makes no f***ing sense.

No, you cannot buy this house for $200k. Yes, I know we lent you $200k for a college education that is virtually worthless right now. But you can’t afford to pay the mortgage of $1100 a month while gaining equity in a real asset, so we cannot approve you. Kindly go pay $2800 rent as if you have stacks of money to light on fire instead and continue owning nothing of significance in your adult life.
 
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No, you cannot buy this house for $200k. Yes, I know we lent you $200k for a college education that is virtually worthless right now. But you can’t afford to pay the mortgage of $1100 a month while gaining equity in a real asset, so we cannot approve you. Kindly go pay $2800 rent as if you have stacks of money to light on fire instead and continue owning nothing of significance in your adult life.
It's ridiculous how it works.

Literally have never missed a credit card or student loan payment. 10+ years.
 

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No, you cannot buy this house for $200k. Yes, I know we lent you $200k for a college education that is virtually worthless right now. But you can’t afford to pay the mortgage of $1100 a month while gaining equity in a real asset, so we cannot approve you. Kindly go pay $2800 rent as if you have stacks of money to light on fire instead and continue owning nothing of significance in your adult life.
Your house can be foreclosed but banks don't want the house. Your degree can't be foreclosed on but the debt doesn't go away in a bankruptcy. But at least there's some hope with forgiveness on loans made by predatory institutions.
 

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Your house can be foreclosed but banks don't want the house. Your degree can't be foreclosed on but the debt doesn't go away in a bankruptcy. But at least there's some hope with forgiveness on loans made by predatory institutions.

Did I mention when we let you go $200k in debt at 18 we told you it was so that you’d be able to afford a house one day? :laugh:
 

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Have you checked out any defense contractors? My mom works for a small one, and they end up with all kinds of positions for government contracts, and being "too military" is seen (as it should be) as a positive rather than a drawback. A lot of the jobs are remote as well--her entire company is remote.

Would you be able to elaborate on this via PM?

I find myself at a quandary. I had posted several months ago about my difficulty finding work and being in a tight spot and many of you guys were super supportive and it was genuinely appreciated.

In April I began working in a new role in midtown - I don’t love it; I’m not really cut out for the civilian world it turns out… leaving the military was a mistake - but it pays well enough and there is room for growth in the future so, all things considered, couldn’t complain. We don’t all get to love what we do, but if I’m paying my bills and supporting my family, beggars can’t be choosers, right?

So anyhow, when I was hired in April I was very forthcoming about my wife’s due date and that I would need to take at least some time when Henrik was born. I work in the NY office of a company that has offices in MA, NH, CT, NJ and NY. My boss is only in charge of the NY office but as my direct report, he told me no problem man, absolutely, let me know what you need. This was during the interview phase. When I was on-boarding the head of HR told me “(NY boss) told me you and your wife are expecting, congrats! Let me know when you need to take off and I’ll get you all set up with family leave.” My boss reiterated on multiple occasions that I was “good to take leave” even though I was a newer employee. When it was time for my wife to be induced the night of the 22nd, I told HR that I was going to be beginning leave on the 23rd and only planned to take 2 weeks; I had promised my boss I’d only take 2 weeks since they were being so generous in letting me take leave after only 2 months with the company. I was told “no problem, go do dad stuff”.

I ended up taking 3 weeks due to how long the induction and labor were, and the emergency c section. I kept in touch with all of my clients and accounts that I was responsible for, responded to emails, phone calls and texts and when something was too involved for me to handle from the hospital or home, I looped my boss in and otherwise kept him abreast of what was going on with my responsibilities. I came back to work this Monday and the head of HR called me on Wednesday to let me know that I “only had 20 hours of PTO” so that was all they were paying me for. She also told me that the company policy was for me to apply for benefits through my state. The deadline for applying from the state is 30 days from the start of your leave - in other words I have 5 days remaining to get this submitted. I did my part of the paperwork but then had to overnight it to the MA office for HR to fill out their portion. They refused to mail it to straight to the state for me, so they said they’d mail it back to me, at which point I then need to mail it to the state.

The mail has been delivered today and I still do not have the documents. What’s more frustrating is that these documents could have been submitted up to 30 days in advance of my leave but the head of HR neglected to let me know this was the company policy despite being well aware of the situation. She also, could have, at any time - be it benefit enrollment during onboarding, or my 3 day trip up to headquarters during orientation - let me know that my upcoming paternity leave was not covered, since we spoke extensively about what he would be named, how my wife was doing, etc. Now I have to hope I can get these forms back and submitted in time and get paid eventually for my time away from work (at 66%), but as it stands, I received no pay this Friday and will only receive pay for 1 week next Friday. Unfortunately, 2 months at work wasn’t really enough for me to build up enough of a safety net for me to survive with no pay for 3 weeks. So I’m a bit screwed. I don’t know that I’ll be able to afford my weekly pass for the LIRR on Monday to even go in to work the next couple of weeks.

Now, I do understand that expecting the company to pay me for my time away may have been a miscommunication and assumption based on the way “you’re good to take leave” and “I’ll set you up with your family leave” were conveyed to me, so while I am upset at them not paying me, I imagine I don’t have much of a leg to stand on there. However, it seems pretty irresponsible of HR to only tell me after the fact to apply for the state benefits in lieu of any company policy when I could have set that up in advance to cover this gap in pay and they had ample opportunity, during the course of informal conversations about the impending birth, to mention that I’d have to apply for external benefits. I also find it a bit frustrating that my boss allowed me to continue working with my clients to the extent I was capable of, if he knew that I wouldn’t be paid for that time off. Had I known I was burning what little PTO I had accrued, I would have unplugged completely. He claims he thought that I would be paid for the time off. I also find it frustrating that had I known I would be going off the state benefits, not only could I have applied ahead of time, but I could have set up benefits a month or even longer if I had wanted to, because if your company relies on the state for benefits you are entitled to up to 3 months of leave. Instead I worked while I was off and rushed back to the office, when I could have utilized this information to plan my leave and my return to work to better coincide with my wife’s recovery.

Part of me wants to push the issue with my company and state my case that I feel I should receive at least a partial compensation since I worked while I was out of the office. One of my deals got closed while I was out of the office (my company made $27,000 profit on it) and I closed another deal I had been working on while out of the office on Wednesday (for a $28,500 profit). On the other hand, I feel that I’ve already pushed it to the extent that I can without burning bridges. If I’m going to stay at the company, I don’t want to ruin my chances of a future promotion over 3 weeks of pay. On the other hand, I have $108 right now and I’m not so sure that I want to have a future at a company that operates this way.

I am le stuck. And frustrated.
 
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This may be a long shot, but here it goes: I'm a corporate/transactional attorney here in NYC and I'm looking for my next opportunity. It's really tough out there so if anybody could be of any help, please message me.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Is anyone on here just really rich and in need of a versatile, hardworking veteran to just be an all around assistant? I’m at a loss lol
 

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Bumping this thread up as well.

I'm going to start looking in other cities. What general websites besides Indeed do you all like for standard finance/data gigs?

I know networking is key and I have to update my resume and get things in order.
 

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Bumping this thread up as well.

I'm going to start looking in other cities. What general websites besides Indeed do you all like for standard finance/data gigs?

I know networking is key and I have to update my resume and get things in order.

I look exclusively on LinkedIn and have gotten a lot of interviews for Corporate Finance (FP&A).
 
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So I'm probably at one of my lowest (although not the lowest) points in my career. I have a decent job in corporate finance that pays decently (not great) but it just seems like I'm constantly confused and I understand and can figure shit out worse than other people. I have had a really hard time all my life focusing on something so zone out in meetings as a result I often don't know what's going on and frustrate my bosses. So I'm constantly in this fog. I also just feel like I don't understand the business high level well enough and I feel like an idiot.

The funny thing is while that's going on I'm seeing the most interest I've ever seen with recruiters. I had 6 or 7 messages on LinkedIn last week from recruiters. I had a recruiter representing a bank reach out he put my name in the ring for this interview process they have where you have two interview with a particular department and they decide if they like you and if they do they place with a team they think you're a good fit. He told me it was a yes, but I haven't gotten an email yet. But it seems like I'll have an offer for another job any day now. The problem is I don't know if I take that offer if I'll be doing it to just run away with my problems. What if this job is worse? And should I be moving into a lateral role at this point in my career when I'm not as high up as I'd like? I don't want to solve my problems by going to another company because these problems are not cultural or compensation problems.
 

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So I'm probably at one of my lowest (although not the lowest) points in my career. I have a decent job in corporate finance that pays decently (not great) but it just seems like I'm constantly confused and I understand and can figure shit out worse than other people. I have had a really hard time all my life focusing on something so zone out in meetings as a result I often don't know what's going on and frustrate my bosses. So I'm constantly in this fog. I also just feel like I don't understand the business high level well enough and I feel like an idiot.
Maybe it's imposter syndrome? I get asked a question about an important topic and I'm thinking "why are you asking me?" while saying something that is hopefully in complete sentences.
 

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Maybe it's imposter syndrome? I get asked a question about an important topic and I'm thinking "why are you asking me?" while saying something that is hopefully in complete sentences.

I think in part, yes. When I've had formal feedback it was almost completely positive and I got a bonus and raise. But that was a while ago I think my performance has slipped.

Have you tried talking to a therapist? It sounds like you may have something else going on that you don’t know about yet.

No, I'm not a fan of therapists. They give me advice that is not more insightful than friends but I have to pay them.
 

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I think in part, yes. When I've had formal feedback it was almost completely positive and I got a bonus and raise. But that was a while ago I think my performance has slipped.



No, I'm not a fan of therapists. They give me advice that is not more insightful than friends but I have to pay them.

See a better therapist. The idea that you think/know something is wrong but have ruled out an entire class of professionals designed to address such issues out of hand, is at best, shortsighted.

Coming from a complete stranger, you were an absolute neurotic mess at the beginning of COVID. This isn't an indictment of your, albeit poor, ratings of goalie performance. Your personal posts in those early COVID posts plus other tidbits in the relationship thread, there are issues that as a stranger could be seen from space. Go invest in yourself and get some help. This is not attacking you; but it was troubling and if you've identified these issues in your work performance, even if everyone suffers through something similar, it's better to get an actual help, not platitudes and advice from friends.

*PS, not therapist and have no interest other than hoping people better themselves*
 

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@SnowblindNYR Read the post above and listen to Frozen. If an objective person can come to that conclusion based upon your posting history - which is exponentially harder to see than in real life - you should really consider it.

But here's a better way to think about it. You have a very simple choice with very clear options. 1) You can do nothing about it. This will not fix the issues your described, and more likely than not, they will continue to compound. Or, 2) You talk to someone about it. This will likely help to some degree, but even if it doesn't, you're in same boat as in Option 1.

One choice has only downside, the other has upside potential and worst case collapses to outcomes in first choice.
 

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I'm not a fan of therapists. They give me advice that is not more insightful than friends but I have to pay them.

A therapist doesn't need to be profound to be helpful. A therapist offers a distance that enables you to speak freely. Plus you take your friends' advice with a grain of salt because you know they have their own sets of issues. Finally, a therapist can hold you accountable to change in ways a friend won't.

I speak with someone weekly. She often offers me the same observations and advice my wife and family do. But it rings differently because she's an objective third-party, and I have to face the fire every week. I think of her as a personal trainer for my mind.
 
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A therapist doesn't need to be profound to be helpful. A therapist offers a distance that enables you to speak freely. Plus you take your friends' advice with a grain of salt because you know they have their own sets of issues. Finally, a therapist can hold you accountable to change in ways a friend won't.

I speak with someone weekly. She often offers me the same observations and advice my wife and family do. But it rings differently because she's an objective third-party, and I have to face the fire every week. I think of her as a personal trainer for my mind.

Seriously, thanks for sharing this. Never thought about it this way.
 

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A therapist doesn't need to be profound to be helpful. A therapist offers a distance that enables you to speak freely. Plus you take your friends' advice with a grain of salt because you know they have their own sets of issues. Finally, a therapist can hold you accountable to change in ways a friend won't.

I speak with someone weekly. She often offers me the same observations and advice my wife and family do. But it rings differently because she's an objective third-party, and I have to face the fire every week. I think of her as a personal trainer for my mind.

I've seen several about topics not related to my career and the information they've given me was the same information my friends have and for the most part it didn't work.
 

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My job has officially reached the tipping point of toxicity, politics, and horrible management. Bothering employees out of work hours and making new hires cry. Throwing people under the bus due to understaffing and giving the "Yeah, but.....".

There is no reason to be working 24/7 or fear for your well being.

It's a little scary but also freeing to know that just let the universe take care of itself. Stay hungry and work hard but it's ok to log off during weekends. This isn't medical or national security.

It's very important to develop as a person both career wise and also outside of work. In my humble opinion when either or both of those have been violated by the employer it's time for a break no matter how much they're paying you.
 

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I’m in a discord group with a bunch of coworkers and some former coworkers I’m cool with, and also my boss.

I recently changed teams so I need to watch what I say in that chat more than I used to. I just realized I was talking to the group rather than one specific person when I said I’m in talks with a recruiter…

There’s no way my boss didn’t see that lol.

Big yikes.
 
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Just an update to that, at least two people in the group chat noticed I said that lol.

My boss didn’t say anything. Even if it comes up I’ll just tell him that I always look for roles elsewhere because it’s good to see what’s out there. He’s a cool dude so I don’t think he’d care.
 

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