Confirmed Trade: [CAR/PIT] Jake Guentzel (25% retained), Ty Smith for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, 2024 cond. 1st, 2024 cond. 5th

[JKG33]

A bunch of meh prospects and an overpaid undersized winger? Dubas special right there

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Oof, that’s a lot of prospects for a rental. Don’t especially like losing Ponomarev either. But no Morrow and a conditional 1st? Yeah, I’ll take that.

 

[Szechwan]

Turns out everyone was wrong with the prospects being included

Koivunen and Ponomarev are both realy solid prospects, and Lucius seems decent from the read. Still though, I would have expected at least one of Blake or Morrow in this.

Buddy we have all seen you pumping the return over the last few days based on absolutely nothing.

"It's gonna be Morrow!"
"Guentzel doesn't move without a top prospect and a 1st!"
"They wouldn't move him to Van without Lekkerimaki coming back!"

Good lesson in not taking people that speak with authority on this site seriously. Pure quantity over quality deal.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Multiple Prospects* was reported. Where is the other one.

Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius are the three prospects

 

[Three On Zero]

Lol your team missed out on Guentzel and are going to have to settle on Jason Zucker instead.

That’s a bad thing?

Guentzel was just traded for dinner table scraps

 

[God]

This is a brutal return for Pittsburgh. Damn I feel bad for you guys.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Really good haul for a rental, overpay from our management team . Dont underrate any of those three.

The one prospect here with middle-six upside is Koivunen, and that is a tad of a long-shot compared to Nadeau or even FUS. I like Ponomaryov but he's more of a depth center, which we already have a better one in Jack Drury. Lucius is a huge wild-card and likelier to flame out than become anything. All of these are worth dealing for a Guentzel.

 

[Oliewud]

lol raty and podkolzin would be way better

dubas is an idiot

 

[innitfam]

I've heard of Lucius but who are the other 2 picks?

 

[smoneil]

The return vindicates the posters on here who were thinking that all the smoke about the "desperate" interest from Vancouver and the NYR was coming from Pittsburgh to try to drive up the price. Good on Carolina for not falling for it. There were some Pens fans who actually thought they would get a 1st, Kakko, and Perrault/Othmann for Guentzel (and taking Goodrow).

 

[Quinning]

Lol your team missed out on Guentzel and are going to have to settle on Jason Zucker instead.

Our team has 40 wins. I don't think we're too worried about it.

 

[Atoyot]

Well so neither blake nor morrow was included after all the hype.

Ponomaryov is low key a very good prospect.

 

[CgyFlamesftw]

What a shit conditional first. Like wtf?

 

[BCNate]

Vancouver couldn't beat that offer? I don't understand the chest thumping from Canucks fans.

We don’t have a first or second. Getting one of those this year matters to a team looking to retool vs rebuild.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

This is Timo 2.0 with a better roster player but worse prospects

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

Would have to think Guentzel being non committal to any contract negotiations played a major part in this.

Almost screams he wants to be back in Pittsburgh next year or seek out the highest bidder in the summer.

Probably lessened the return.

 

[Habaneros]

Thats the best offer for Guentzel? Wow

Tomorrow Dubas sill trade Crosby for 1st round pick a 3rd and 7 th round pick.

 

[eviohh26]

This is a brutal return for Pittsburgh. Damn I feel bad for you guys.

I don't. Lemieux , Jagr, Crosby, Malkin.

Maybe for once they have to build a team without getting gifted the best players in the world.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

lol at Pens fans thinking they could get Nikishin. Couldn’t even get Morrow. Pono and Koivunen both solid prospects but also both a tier below Morrow.

 

[Duck Off]

Woof. That’s it? Well done by Carolina

 

[5 14 6 1]

I've heard of Lucius but who are the other 2 picks?

I don't even think you're thinking of the right Lucius either.

 

[Schennanigans]

Vancouver couldn’t beat this?

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Dubas strikes.
Where’s that weirdo poster who was flaming me now lmao. It’s an even worse trade

I'm here. And I was discussing the rumored Pagnotta deal, not this one. Yes it's obviously not as good. And I wasn't flaming you either (you should look up what this means).

Also, you should learn to read :

 

[JKG33]

This is a brutal return for Pittsburgh. Damn I feel bad for you guys.

I dont. Have you read any of the Guentzal threads this last week? Karma's a bitch

 

[MMC]