Confirmed Trade: [CAR/PIT] Jake Guentzel (25% retained), Ty Smith for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, 2024 cond. 1st, 2024 cond. 5th

[EpochLink]

That's it? Pittsburgh could've done better.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Who, who & who?

Seems like underwhelming prospects to not get a guaranteed 1st.

The best target goes off the market for an underwhelming return... interesting.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Dubas is the smartest guy in the room!

 

[MMC]

 

[eviohh26]

Haha Pen fans were really over selling the worth of Guentzel. Not the return I was told they would get.

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

I f***ing hate it when these insiders say "this is the full trade" and then it has multiple conditions and they don't tell what those conditions are.

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

Imagine being another contending team and not beating this deal….

Some of you should be laughing at your own front offices.

 

[3074326]

Went quantity over quality.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Not a bad return. Guentzel was never going to fetch much in the first place.

Wish the Canucks could have been that however.

 

[Mike Jones]

What a hideous trade for Pittsburgh. Those conditions on the picks are asinine.

 

[Unsustainable]

Turns out everyone was wrong with the prospects being included

Koivunen and Ponomarev are both realy solid prospects, and Lucius seems decent from the read. Still though, I would have expected at least one of Blake or Morrow in this.

Pono can play the next game with the Pens. Kouivunen is a very boom type pick.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Seems like a volume trade for the Penguins hoping they hit one.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Nice haul by Penguins.

 

[RoyalDuder]

Wow Pitt got absolutely bent over here

 

[AslanRH]

This isn't bad as a rental.
If it was a a conditional 2nd -->1st + 3 2nds people wouldn't be so quick to dismiss.

Its not great, but a lot of swings to fill the depleting Pitt roster

 

[Theodore450]

Dubas strikes.
Where’s that weirdo poster who was flaming me now lmao. It’s an even worse trade

 

[Empoleon8771]

It's actually kinda funny that this deal seems like directly in the middle between what Canucks fans were offering and what Penguins fans were asking from the Canucks.

I think it's a mediocre return, but calling it anything more than that is an exaggeration. Koivunen and Ponomarev are both good and Lucius seems like someone useful. The way this trade hurts is because Pagnotta cock-teased everyone by suggesting Morrow and Blake were included.

 

[alvinia]

Dubas was born to be a middle manager at an accounting or law firm

Not to run an NHL team

yup

 

[JetsFan815]

Ponomorev and Koivunun have decent stats playing in men's leagues and Cruz has developed nice and outperforming his draft spot. Not the high end quality of Morrow but Pens hoping that they get 3 darts at atleast one of them will land.

Not a terrible trade by any means for the Pens, there is some potential there.

 

[Tob]

 

[newsportsfan123]

Carolina could get Buch if they wanted to when the players on waiver pass through tomorrow.

 

[domaug]

Turns out everyone was wrong with the prospects being included

Koivunen and Ponomarev are both realy solid prospects, and Lucius seems decent from the read. Still though, I would have expected at least one of Blake or Morrow in this.

my initial read was that Koivunen and Ponomarev are solid, but that's it. just solid, not high-end prospects.

the rest is literally Burger King horse meat.

Dubas had to really nail a return for trading Guentzel, even as a rental, and I feel like he missed it.

 

[FinnLightning26]

Cruz Lucius sounds like he works in the adult industry.

 

[canucks20]

Don’t understand why Dubas didn’t just wait until tomorrow. There has to be a team that would have got desperate and traded more than this. I’m sorry but that’s such an underwhelming return. Never go full quantity over quality

 

[Flyer lurker]

Hextall is so bad

Dumbas hold my beer