Confirmed Trade: [CAR/PIT] Jake Guentzel (25% retained), Ty Smith for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, 2024 cond. 1st, 2024 cond. 5th

[Three On Zero]

This isn't bad as a rental.
If it was a a conditional 2nd -->1st + 3 2nds people wouldn't be so quick to dismiss.

Well no, that’s a much better offer

 

[DFAC]

Thats the best offer for Guentzel? Wow

 

[Empoleon8771]

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Lol your team missed out on Guentzel and are going to have to settle on Jason Zucker instead.

 

[Breakers]

Not getting Morrow, i thought Dubas was enamored with him.

 

[He]

Vocal Penguins fans really thought they were getting a quality over quantity deal.... still not the worst return for a pending UFA. They weren't ever gonna get a top bluechipper for Guentzel.

 

[nbwingsfan]

That’s not great now is it

 

[domaug]

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Vancouver couldn't beat that offer? I don't understand the chest thumping from Canucks fans.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

As is the norm, this entire site overvalues what a player will return. Earlier today someone said kakko, a 1st and brett berard would be disappointing LOL

This return is arguably worse than what Lindholm got.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

I'm just annoyed at the conditional 1st. The 1st should have been non negotiable, Guentzel was the #1 player on the market. The prospects and Bunting seem fine.

 

[eviohh26]

Lol your team missed out on Guentzel and are going to have to settle on Jason Zucker instead.

Kinda seems to me teams were not very high on Guentzel. That offer could have been beaten and yet it wasn't.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Really good haul for a rental, overpay from our management team . Dont underrate any of those three.

 

[Chaos Giraffe]

LMAO

A handful of dollar store toys for Guentzel.

And people were hating on deals like Raty/Podkolzin+

 

[BCNate]

But what about the bidding war that was returning multiple blue chips??

Dubas is such a schmuck, buckle up pens fans.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Went quantity over quality.

Yeah. Just a bunch of meh. Quite surprised actually that other teams didn't beat that.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Those Pens fans that were dunking on the Hurricanes for not going for it, claiming that the best accomplishment the Canes had was getting swept in the conference finals in recent years better hope that the Canes are a lot more than that this season, otherwise they got dunked on. Didn't get the headline prospect some posters were clamoring over, didn't get a guaranteed 1st either (Most likely ends up being a 2nd).

 

[stl76]

That's 3 pretty solid prospects and another likely mid-2nd round pick. Not horrible for a team desperately in need of young talent and willing to accept high quantity/decent quality. I'm sure all the hot takes will pronounce this a landslide win for Carolina, but I don't hate this for the pens.

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

Start the rebuild. 3 decent to good prospects will help stock up the cupboard that is almost empty.

Now sell off some more players by tomorrow and really get the rebuild off and running.

I like it.

 

[hamzarocks]

They got back a bunch of low ceiling prospects

Its like Hirvonen + Minten + Tverberg + 2nd with 5% chance to be 31st or 32nd pick for Guentzel@25% retained from Toronto

That offer would be terrible

 

[HBK27]

Thats the best offer for Guentzel? Wow

Have to wonder if Guentzel’s 12 team no trade list played a role in the lackluster return?

 

[JKG33]

Ahahahaha but Pens fans assured us he'd get top prospects???

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Feels like the equivalent of 4 2nd round picks (the 2nd round + 3 prospects that are about as valuable as 2nd round picks at this point probably). I can understand going for some quantity there with the pens' deplated prospect pool. Not a robbery of any kind for sure, but not awful either. Morrow or Blake would have been great, that's for sure.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Not shocked thats what the return is. Some interesting prospects.

 

[domaug]

LMAO

A handful of dollar store toys for Guentzel.

And people were hating on deals like Raty/Podkolzin+

Raty and Podkolzin weren't offered. somehow, Vancouver couldn't beat that, and we'll see what they do now.

 

[cheesymc]

Holy crap, Penguins couldn’t even get a guaranteed 1st or legit A level prospect like Morrow? Seriously, no other team could beat that? 3 mid level prospects?? Dubas got creamed.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Koivunen is more ready than Blake and might catch Crosby’s last couple of runs…

 

[Tob]

Pittsburgh must be really high on someone on that list. Otherwise, there were guaranteed to be 1st + prospect + player available.

They want this to be a quick turnaround, for what I don't know, if Crosby is going to be 38 and Letang 100, but you can see the logic of 3 almost developing prospects.