Confirmed Trade: [CAR/PIT] Jake Guentzel (25% retained), Ty Smith for Michael Bunting, Ville Koivunen, Vasili Ponomarev, Cruz Lucius, 2024 cond. 1st, 2024 cond. 5th

[Big Daddy Cane]

We gotta at least try him with Aho. Pay all this to play with Drury/KK? Svech and Necas flanking Drury is pretty interesting.

You run into that Teravianen - Aho - Jarvis problem wrt the ability to get penetration. Rod would rotate Noesen/Martinook/Fast up there real quick.

 

[thrillhous]

prospects are overrated

So are forwards, defencemen and goalies.

 

[Player 61]

Canucks will just sign him in the offseason.

Like Hanifin will sign with Tampa next year. True stuff. Why trades for rentals are what they are.. Not Fantastic.

 

[oceanchild]

Lol your team missed out on Guentzel and are going to have to settle on Jason Zucker instead.

Give your stance in thinking it would be something like Hoglander, Lekkerimaki and a first. I’m not sure it should be you mocking other fans.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

Ty Smith, only 23, 47 points in 123 games is not nothing. Didn’t get much of a chance with Sullivan and was beaten out by POJ for 3LD.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I still love that the 5th doesn't even like turn into a 6th or something. Just a straight up "unless we get the best possible outcome out of all this, you get nothing on that one", it's so unnecessary to be included in the trade on both ends lmao

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

He is. For being called Hockey’s Future there’s a surprising lack of knowledge about prospects.

For sure, but TBH it's not like it's easy to watch Liiga games.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Ty Smith, only 23, 47 points in 123 games is not nothing. Didn’t get much of a chance with Sullivan and was beaten out by POJ for 3LD.

Is he gonna be on the roster? Thought it might be a contract balancing thing or whatever

 

[bleedgreen]

You run into that Teravianen - Aho - Jarvis problem wrt the ability to get penetration. Rod would rotate Noesen/Martinook/Fast up there real quick.

I don’t disagree but I think we’re gonna see Rod try Jake with Aho before he throws it in the blender.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Don’t understand why Dubas didn’t just wait until tomorrow. There has to be a team that would have got desperate and traded more than this. I’m sorry but that’s such an underwhelming return. Never go full quantity over quality

Teams were probably pulling out and he was afraid that no one would be left or the prices would plummet.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Is he gonna be on the roster? Thought it might be a contract balancing thing or whatever

Probably correct, Pens are at 48 after this trade.

 

[KAPOW]

sounds like a lot of trash for a good player

 

[bleedgreen]

For sure, but TBH it's not like it's easy to watch Liiga games.

True, but 55 pts in 57 games as a 20 y/o speaks for itself and is at the end of a five second google search.

 

[Menzinger]

A quantity over quality return - which is typical for rentals. It was silly to think he Guentzle was going to return a bluechip asset without an extension

That said, if Bunting clicks with the Pens, I think the return is decent enough for them

 

[Habaneros]

Dubas is legit gonna drive Crosby to demand a trade.

Would be nice to see Sidney go to Vegas....seem like a fitting end.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

True, but 55 pts in 57 games as a 20 y/o speaks for itself and is at the end of a five second google search.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Seems like a meh return. Dubas is decent with prospects though, so maybe this works out for the Pens.

 

[11Messier]

Probably played too hardball and everyone just moved on to other trades. Dubas probably thought everyone would wait until tomorrow and he would have more time but this year everyone made their moves early and he was left holding the bag.

For a penguins team needing high draft picks to rebuild, not even a first. Wow. At that point I would have just kept him. Not really sure what they accomplished with this other than pissing off the whole team.

 

[Ryder71]

I really like this for Pens. They need young hungry legs.

A move for now and the future.

For a bunch of echlers yippy! We were duped . Ppl went on twitter and said that the trade they initially heard was different than how it ended up.

Probably played too hardball and everyone just moved on to other trades. Dubas probably thought everyone would wait until tomorrow and he would have more time but this year everyone made their moves early and he was left holding the bag.

For a penguins team needing high draft picks to rebuild, not even a first. Wow. At that point I would have just kept him. Not really sure what they accomplished with this other than pissing off the whole team.

Not Dubas, it's now Dumbass.

 

[bleuetbio]

Damm Canes prospects did realy well. We have to hire some of their scouts.

 

[Habaneros]

Start the rumors

Sorta sounds like Sid is lost for words......

Time to pack the bags Sid , go out on a high note else where take a few more runs at the Cup.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

This is a good return for a rental. Rentals almost always return a late 1st and "meh" prospect.

Don't let the fact that some Pens fans had dreams of Nikishin, Morrow, or Nadeau; the type of prospects who almost never get traded for rentals.

Koivunen and Pono are good prospects. Bunting is a good NHLr worth his contract.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Pens fans, are you happy with this return?

Not really, but I can see the logic in it.

Surely the Vancouver package was better?

I'm not sure which one you mean, but if you mean the one with Podkolzin and Bains, then from what I can tell, no. As far as I can see the players we got are better than those two.

 

[Paulinbc]

Nice work getting Gentz for jack sweet shit. GO WHALERS!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hodge]

Give your stance in thinking it would be something like Hoglander, Lekkerimaki and a first. I’m not sure it should be you mocking other fans.

No it would be something like Mikheyev, Raty, Podkolzin, the dman Pettersson, conditional 1st, conditional 5th. Maybe Hoglander instead of Mikheyev since Bunting is so much better than Mikheyev.