Reaching the finals is close. Closer than any other team! And without KK contributing in any meaningful fashion!
He should do well as Carolina’s 3rd line Lw!
Confirmed Signing with Link: [CAR/MTL] Habs accept Kotkaniemi offer sheet (1 year, $6.1M), 2022 1st, 2022 3rd [Part II]
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He should do well as Carolina’s 3rd line Lw!
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FWIW, Tom Dundon talking about the offer sheet and his general approach in the Athletic:
LeBrun: Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon on the Jesperi Kotkaniemi offer sheet, losing Dougie Hamilton and sports betting
No master plan to get the Habs back for the original offer sheet:
“If we had re-signed Dougie [Hamilton] or 10 other things we tried to do, this doesn’t come up. But when you’re sitting there with a bunch of cap space that you’re not going to be able to use and looking at your choices — we went through many, many choices — this just happened to be the one that ended up being executed. But there was no grand plan … we didn’t set out to do this two years ago, even a month before. There’s always lots of options to look at based on the order things happen. When this came up, this one actually worked. But we could do lots of columns on the 100 ideas that don’t work or that we don’t execute."
On the risk/reward of overpaying Kotkaniemi:
"Well, we’ll see. If he plays good, then it’ll make a lot of sense. If he doesn’t play as well as we’d hoped, then no matter what we do it won’t make sense. But the contract is the easy part. If you pay the money to players who play really well, then it sort of doesn’t matter. The number is the number. But they got to play good. You don’t win if they don’t play good, regardless of their cap number."
On what he is and isn't willing to spend on:
"We’ve been pretty consistent. The things that make the biggest impact in all pro sports are the players. We all get a little self-important, probably, about the role of the people that don’t play. And so I just came to the conclusion that the players — the cap space is a fixed cap on the team that you can spend, and if you spend more, you give yourself a better chance to win. That is the only thing I know to be true in this sport. I don’t know that another scout or another analytics person or a nicer locker room, not sure how much that stuff impacts. And you want to do a really good job in all those things. But I do know what a really good player means. And so we’ve always taken that position — the reality of the business that we run versus what other people run off the ice, which is different. It’s just the way it is.”
LeBrun: Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon on the Jesperi Kotkaniemi offer sheet, losing Dougie Hamilton and sports betting
No master plan to get the Habs back for the original offer sheet:
“If we had re-signed Dougie [Hamilton] or 10 other things we tried to do, this doesn’t come up. But when you’re sitting there with a bunch of cap space that you’re not going to be able to use and looking at your choices — we went through many, many choices — this just happened to be the one that ended up being executed. But there was no grand plan … we didn’t set out to do this two years ago, even a month before. There’s always lots of options to look at based on the order things happen. When this came up, this one actually worked. But we could do lots of columns on the 100 ideas that don’t work or that we don’t execute."
On the risk/reward of overpaying Kotkaniemi:
"Well, we’ll see. If he plays good, then it’ll make a lot of sense. If he doesn’t play as well as we’d hoped, then no matter what we do it won’t make sense. But the contract is the easy part. If you pay the money to players who play really well, then it sort of doesn’t matter. The number is the number. But they got to play good. You don’t win if they don’t play good, regardless of their cap number."
On what he is and isn't willing to spend on:
"We’ve been pretty consistent. The things that make the biggest impact in all pro sports are the players. We all get a little self-important, probably, about the role of the people that don’t play. And so I just came to the conclusion that the players — the cap space is a fixed cap on the team that you can spend, and if you spend more, you give yourself a better chance to win. That is the only thing I know to be true in this sport. I don’t know that another scout or another analytics person or a nicer locker room, not sure how much that stuff impacts. And you want to do a really good job in all those things. But I do know what a really good player means. And so we’ve always taken that position — the reality of the business that we run versus what other people run off the ice, which is different. It’s just the way it is.”
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If I had to fight Anthony Joshua, I wouldn‘t be any closer to become the next heavy weight champion than you were to win the cup.
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They will put him on second line LW to justify his pay check. Something they understand and that Habs did not (ou could not afford) is that KK is NOT a centerman.
I agree - if you fought Anthony Joshua, you wouldn’t be closer to winning than the Habs were. Because you don’t stand a chance meanwhile the Habs had a chance. lol
if he has a down year and is released this thread will live on forever with Habs fans gloating.
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What are you even talking about...
He may not be worth 6.1M but one can easily argue there is no run without KK...
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He's barely an NHLer at this point. He should be in the AHL right now learning how to stay on his skates. People are blinded by his playoff production. He was scratched for a reason. He has a ways to go physically.
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He scored some key goals for us, and I love him for it, but watching the games, he was often one of the worst players on the ice. Granted, his line had zero chemistry. I am not saying he is a bust at all, btw. I like him, but he has a lot of issues.
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I don't disagree that a 21 year old who was rushed to the NHL has issues with consistency in the largest of stages...
That doesn't change the fact that the person I was replying to said he contributed essentially nothing. He is the Habs franchise record holder for most playoff goals before the age of 21...I see that as meaningful.
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It's only preseason but Dvorak showed he is much better than KK. Why should we bitter about this? We replaced KK by a better player and saved 1.5M.
"Habs fan announces they won the offer sheet after a preseason performance from the guy they traded for to replace the player they lost" is something I would feel was totally made up but then I log into HFBoards and just... stare in amazement.
I read that and it wasn’t that flattering to KK.
Made it seem like he was plan Z, when everything else fell through. I like his honesty
Kotkaniemi just scored the Canes first goal of the preseason.
I’m sure Dvorak would of scored twice by now tho
I’m sure Dvorak would of scored twice by now tho
This is a pretty stupid take. Of course the team that played in the finals was closer to winning the cup then the team who lost in the conference finals. And the teams that made the playoffs were closer then the teams that didn’t.
By your logic I, who never played in the NHL, came as close to winning a Cup as Marcel Dionne. Is that really your position?
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It was pretty well known that it was a marriage of convenience when the price for Tarasenko got too high and the UFAs cleared out. The whole idea was predicated on having this random cap space and nobody else to spend it on this year, at the same moment that Montreal left a guy dangling out there. There weren’t even rumors before this happened… it’s like the management team went to work one day and were like **** it, let’s use all the tools in the toolbox.
KK with a goal on his 3rd shift as a Hurricanes player. Imagine he goes off in Carolina. Lol.
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Meh, It's pre-season vs. a non-NHL goalie with a bunch of non-NHLrs in front of that goalie. I don't expect him to "go off", but hope that he'll show improvement.
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Well if others are hyping their players for scoring against non-NHLers, the same should apply to KK.
He's got 2 points so far it seems (1G1A) and first just finished
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