We've hit a few home runs with our late 1st back in the day.
Green, Carlson, Kuznetsov, Varlamov.
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We've hit a few home runs with our late 1st back in the day.
Green, Carlson, Kuznetsov, Varlamov.
Definitely, I mean we had a great stretch of hitting on 1st rounders generally in that timeframe with Johansson, Wilson, Burakovsky, Vrana as well and that’s mainly why we’ve been competitive. We’re good at drafting in the 1st round which is definitely the round you need to hit. I just wanna hit some home runs in some later rounds, even though I know the odds are very poor.
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Seattle with a somewhat surprising G1 2-1 win over Edmonton. Sounds like Rybinski may have been knocked out of the game on a hit by Guhle. He missed a few games in the previous round against Kamloops as well.
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Just had a question regarding goalie prospect Mitchel Gibson, who was drafted in the 4th round in 2018. It's been 4 years now, he's age 23 and he hasn't been offered/signed to an ELC. Looking at CapFriendly, Gibson just finished his 2nd year at Harvard. Is he considered a draft bust even though he was drafted in the 4th round?
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It’s not that he isn’t/wasn’t wanted by the Caps, he wanted to go back to school. I think they signed that Dartmouth UFA because they’re not sure they’ll be able to sign Gibson before his rights expire (or they already know they won’t).
Mentioned before Yurov dropping would be best case scenario. He’s from Kuzy’s hometown and I think he played on Semin’s KHL team so it has to happen.
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I don't know. Don't like drafting a winger first but that’s a likely scenario because teams will pass on him given the situationand because he's a winger.
If we want a big Russian winger we should sign rather than draft one.
Why not both? They have very few if any top six projected wings in the system right now. Leason is probably the highest ceiling winger and he probably tops out as a third liner. Maybe Protas if he switches positions. McMike and Lapierre are centers. I don’t see why drafting a talented two way winger who is widely considered a top ten prospect in this draft if he falls would be a bad thing.
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We do have several good wingers who aren't close to 30 yet. I also like couple of our winger prospects, think Snively will make the team next season. I feel like wingers are much easier to acquire as free agents aswell and hold fraction of value as opposed to C or D's. Which is why they are always falling on drafts.
CMM and Lapierre are good prospects but i'm not sure i see both of them making it in the NHL as a center. Centers are easier to convert to wingers if needs to be where as if wingers rarely get moved to the center successfully and if you aren't good enough at the center position you are screwed.
I see your point though. It's not a scenario that i hate but i don't really like it either. Just as long as they don't draft a goalie first.
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Yeah, at this point I think there's a fair chance that happens. It's going to take a team sticking their neck out for him a bit. Maybe Dallas? Or Nashville? Winger alternatives like Lambert, Kulich & McGroarty will give teams options that are close enough to opt for if they have some doubts.
I also wonder if late risers in Gauthier & Kasper won't push other centers up the board. Or if Korchinski goes really early whether a run on defensemen happens and someone beyond the secondary three of Korchinski/Mintyukov/Mateychuk goes in the top 19. Bichsel measured in at 6'6'' 225. I don't think he'll be a meteoric riser ala Seider but I could see Los Angeles taking him. Or as early as Vancouver at 15 if there's a run on D before then. Unlikely but not impossible should some combination of Geekie, Nazar or Lambert slide.
Trading up from 46 to snag Miroshnichenko would make for an amazing value draft at the top-end. I find it doubtful he slides out of the first round, though. I mean, I could see Pittsburgh taking him given the Hodgkin's connection and they could use the upside. If not, hard to see him getting by teams like Toronto, Winnipeg, Tampa Bay & Arizona. At 46 someone like Bystedt would make for a decent fit. Bigger body Swedish forward. Not physical per se but large.
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They won't. There's no one with a first round grade this year.
At 46 they could maybe begin to entertain it between either of the WHLers Brennan or Dyck. But there will probably be better skaters available. I'm not sure it's a very deep draft, and it's a relatively poor one for goaltenders, but Rounds 2-4 are shaping up to be pretty fair. 46 should yield a pretty solid prospect.
Miroshnichenko is tough eval for me, seems like his performances in the 2021 tournaments are still carrying his draft stock. He disappointed a bit this season production wise but also could be explained by his illness, so he’s definitely a candidate to slide. I’d be okay at 46, probably not 20 though. I’d look at Yurov for pick 20 for sure.
And it seems more and more likely considering there are probably at least 5 defensemen in the top 20, and then your top players like Wright, Cooley, Slaf, Kemell, and then more winger options and the USNTDP guys, along with risers like Kasper and Bischel.
And it seems more and more likely considering there are probably at least 5 defensemen in the top 20, and then your top players like Wright, Cooley, Slaf, Kemell, and then more winger options and the USNTDP guys, along with risers like Kasper and Bischel.
On drafting a winger, i think it’s a little outdated thinking to pass just because it’s a wing. You can get exceptional value on them since teams are still stuck thinking centers are more important than wingers when we see today that wingers can drive play just as much as centers do. It’s true you have more options in free agency but our pipeline is pretty bare and most of our wingers are free agents within the next two seasons which would probably line up with when this pick would enter the league, if all goes well
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Also it's more sensible taking a winger that not just slides from a value standpoint but also offers an industriousness they'll need going forward. The overall fit with Yurov is quite strong. It isn't trade up for him strong but he has better Fiala type upside. Getting that at 20 in this draft is a solid start. The only players I might trade up for are Mateychuk or Lambert realistically and I don't know that either possesses significantly more upside (Lambert also being a winger). If they want a center I don't think 20 presents them with one with as strong a value. It would probably be Ostlund for me but there are enough questions where I'd hesitate and look to trade down. Also, there are some that believe Yurov could play center. He does have a fair back-checking element to his game. Some also believe Kulich could play the position but I'm not sure it's ideal in either case.
Worst-case Yurov is off the board, as are Kulich & McGroarty and no one slides. It could happen. Then I think they'd need to think about Miroshnichenko as the fall-back. He was pretty solidly a top ten talent earlier in the process and getting top 10 type value is something they need to gamble on. They did it with Lapierre at 22 a couple years ago and I'd argue these are even better bets from a projection standpoint. There's less perimeter concern, no concussion histories I don't believe and stronger, more durable frames generally.
I don't doubt Bichsel intrigues them in what he could become. I'd shy away from him quite this early because I don't know about his puck skills. He tries things so the sense is there but some of his routine outlet passes are of the Siegenthaler variety. He also can struggle at times under pressure generally so the quick twitch is not altogether there yet. Too much projection involved there. He certainly could become a real beast. He'll likely go right around their range but he's really raw.
Worst-case Yurov is off the board, as are Kulich & McGroarty and no one slides. It could happen. Then I think they'd need to think about Miroshnichenko as the fall-back. He was pretty solidly a top ten talent earlier in the process and getting top 10 type value is something they need to gamble on. They did it with Lapierre at 22 a couple years ago and I'd argue these are even better bets from a projection standpoint. There's less perimeter concern, no concussion histories I don't believe and stronger, more durable frames generally.
I don't doubt Bichsel intrigues them in what he could become. I'd shy away from him quite this early because I don't know about his puck skills. He tries things so the sense is there but some of his routine outlet passes are of the Siegenthaler variety. He also can struggle at times under pressure generally so the quick twitch is not altogether there yet. Too much projection involved there. He certainly could become a real beast. He'll likely go right around their range but he's really raw.
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I think he's going top ten. High floor, physically mature, very competitive. Polished interview. Leadership potential. There's maybe some question about pure offensive upside but he gets the details of positional/possession play. Maybe in a more stacked draft he'd get bypassed in favor of some snipers but I don't think this draft meets that. He's a playoff style player.
Same with Gauthier, who I'm not quite as high on as talk that he may even go as high as 4. I don't think his instincts are as routinely solid but he's got size at center and some real finishing. Korchinski is probably knocking on that tpo ten door as well. It's Nazar and perhaps Geekie that may slide a bit but still not terribly far. You never know but that's my sense. I could see Detroit as a strong fit for Kasper.
Same with Gauthier, who I'm not quite as high on as talk that he may even go as high as 4. I don't think his instincts are as routinely solid but he's got size at center and some real finishing. Korchinski is probably knocking on that tpo ten door as well. It's Nazar and perhaps Geekie that may slide a bit but still not terribly far. You never know but that's my sense. I could see Detroit as a strong fit for Kasper.
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I think at the end of this next season. Someone might have proved me wrong already and said that we have him for two years but I am somewhat confident he’s a UFA at the beginning of the next league year.
