Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2022-23 Season Part 3: Drop the puck!

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zappa4ever

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I was under full belief since his surgery that
either
a) NB19 has played his last NHL game and will LTIRetire
or
b) NB19 will make a go of it around March, try a few games then gracefully have a retirement tour near the end of Reg Season

It's weird that this could soon be a reality (how soon, no clue, may be days/weeks/months still depending on how his body reacts to full contact/full speed practice), my mind has been fully expecting to not see him even try until late in the season and with the short track record of everyone else w/same surgery expect limited/poor results

I guess we'll see (possibly) soon...
 

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I've lost track of where things stand with respect to the cap with all the injuries. How much space would we need to clear to activate Backstrom?
 

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I've lost track of where things stand with respect to the cap with all the injuries. How much space would we need to clear to activate Backstrom?


 

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Lots of hate (and pleas) for Backstrom to go away and take his 9.2M salary with him. I am personally excited to see him getting closer. I suspect he is still a month away and Wilson will return before him. That said, what looked like a “come back for playoffs” is now more like, we need to find cap room to add him into the mix.

It’s an exciting problem to have and some good players will be exposed to waivers. I don’t think Eller is going to be one of them Because if Backstrom can’t go, we still need Eller at 3C this year. Mantha could Be moved and I think has value. Anyone else, like NAK, Snively would just be to avoid a waiver claim.
 

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“Persistently underrated world-class athlete defies expectations!”

News at 11.

I figure most will disagree with me, but Backie's physique looks the best I've seen him in his career. In the past he had some love handles and such for a pro athlete, but one of those physical work horse types with inner strength and game intellect. Now he is very much slimmed down and looks the best I can recall him looking. Amazing to me how he's skating so early on. What an addition if he comes back soon. Doesn't feel right with Ovy not getting 800 without Backstrom.

Lots of hate (and pleas) for Backstrom to go away and take his 9.2M salary with him. I am personally excited to see him getting closer. I suspect he is still a month away and Wilson will return before him. That said, what looked like a “come back for playoffs” is now more like, we need to find cap room to add him into the mix.

It’s an exciting problem to have and some good players will be exposed to waivers. I don’t think Eller is going to be one of them Because if Backstrom can’t go, we still need Eller at 3C this year. Mantha could Be moved and I think has value. Anyone else, like NAK, Snively would just be to avoid a waiver claim.

Indeed buddy. He's as much a franchise Cap as Ovy. He's been clutch when they needed him, especially with OT playoff goals. I do get the business side some posters point out, but some players you just keep.
 

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Assuming injuries heal like Kuemper and Fehervary, there are some avenues that they could go down. Obviously trading eller is an option and i feel like is probably the most efficient since it allows us to keep all our scratches up and lets protas potentially have a better opening for ice time in the chance a center goes down. otherwise if they really want to keep eller, sending down malenstyn, nak, snively, protas, and one of irwin/AA (or both if they want to keep a forward up) is basically the only way they can go about keeping eller

and as stated above they could supposedly move mantha, would definitely harm our winger depth if one goes down then (although i suppose we have some options + could get a winger prospect in a potential return)
 

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I don’t want to lose Mantha for peanuts when he’s been arguably their most impactful two-way ES forward. I don’t think they need to trade anyone to get compliant if my CapFriendly Armchair GM is accurate, but if they were to trade anyone it needs to be Eller. Protas is more than capable of replacing what Eller brings at center.
 

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I don’t want to lose Mantha for peanuts when he’s been arguably their most impactful two-way ES forward. I don’t think they need to trade anyone to get compliant if my CapFriendly Armchair GM is accurate, but if they were to trade anyone it needs to be Eller. Protas is more than capable of replacing what Eller brings at center.
Mmmm no….you had me until that. If he was he would be delivering.
 
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How well informed is this lady? Not sure I recognize her. If she's legit this is troublesome news about Willy and crazy news of Backstrom is back in January after the majority of us saw him going LTIRetirement.

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Close….Moore is a bit younger, probably better…..so do we want to pay Sheary $3.5+? Feels like a Beagle moment….
I think it is a Beagle moment but we have a couple of those. I think I’d rather let Hathaway go cause I think he will command 2.5 - 3.5M as well. Sheary can literally play 1RW to 4LW. Very versitile and he brings a lot of speed. So yeah, I think I would go 3-3.5M for Sheary.
 

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Close….Moore is a bit younger, probably better…..so do we want to pay Sheary $3.5+? Feels like a Beagle moment….
the Pros for Sheary are he's improved and developed his time at WSH and is consistently producing, very versatile, and healthy with showing no signs of slowing down; could easily see 2-3 years of maintaining his current levels

...with Beagle he was maxed out, was never going to improve or turn into anything more than what he was... the hardest working player out there who was aging, regressing, and less physically capable of playing how he did in years prior
 

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I think it is a Beagle moment but we have a couple of those. I think I’d rather let Hathaway go cause I think he will command 2.5 - 3.5M as well. Sheary can literally play 1RW to 4LW. Very versitile and he brings a lot of speed. So yeah, I think I would go 3-3.5M for Sheary.
might come down to us wanting to pay him $3.5 for 3-4, and others offering $4 for 5, and what Sheary is willing to accept to stay.

We will have the flexibility to work his new number in this time much easier.
 

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I think it is a Beagle moment but we have a couple of those. I think I’d rather let Hathaway go cause I think he will command 2.5 - 3.5M as well. Sheary can literally play 1RW to 4LW. Very versitile and he brings a lot of speed. So yeah, I think I would go 3-3.5M for Sheary.
I really think Beck Malenstyn replaces what Hathaway brings to the team in terms of physical play, in your face attitude, occasionally dropping the gloves and could probably provide similar offensive punch.

I also feeling very similarly about what Snivley brings to the team in terms of a potential replacement for Sheary. Not sure I'd be crushed to see either of them go and replaced with said young guys.

Ted definitely said we'd continue to be a playoff built team while Ovi is around but also made it clear we'd see young guys begin to be inserted into the lineup.
 
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I really think Beck Malenstyn replaces what Hathaway brings to the team in terms of physical play, in your face attitude, occasionally dropping the gloves and could probably provide similar offensive punch.

I also feeling very similarly about what Snivley brings to the team in terms of a potential replacement for Sheary. Not sure I'd be crushed to see either of them go and replaced with said young guys.

Ted definitely said we'd continue to be a playoff built team while Ovi is around but also made it clear we'd see young guys begin to be inserted into the lineup.
Agree with all of that. Won’t be crushed to see Sheary go, but I would like to see him stay. Just looking at forward contracts:

Brown - gone
Haglin - gone
Eller - gone (and I don’t think he get traded. No assets in return. Just not resigned.
Hathaway - gone. Maybe we can get assets for him at TDL
Sheary - possibly gone but not traded. I like him to be resigned
Mojo - gone. No return at TDL
NAK - gone. If we can trade I’m great, but unlikely anyone wants to give up assets
Strome - resign. Maybe a bridge deal. His tender and arbitration could be 5M
Milano - interesting. Not putting up points so its a wait and see.

So we’re talking about likely brining back 2-3 out of 9 UFA’s. Of those, one over 30 but still time for value, and 2 under 30. Lots of openings for under 28 players And good to sign an older veteran versatile guy.
 
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Mmmm no….you had me until that. If he was he would be delivering.

Fair enough, but what gets me about this argument is what is it exactly that you think Eller is delivering? He's playing fine, but I don't think there'd be much of a falloff at all if someone else stepped in for him. It's not that I think Protas or McMichael are 100% locks to be great replacements at that spot, but it's not like they'd be replacing a guy that's having a ton of impact these days.

Even if we do get fractionally worse as a result, it's a no-brainer move to save space IF we need to AND think that Backstrom can hack it. I don't think it'd be much of a decline (if any) at the things Eller is good at, and the other things might yield a net positive. And if we're talking about Eller being odd man out when Nick returns, then we'd only need one of the kids to step up if someone gets hurt.

I really don't get the reluctance over something that's absolutely happening in a few months regardless...
 

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I don’t want to lose Mantha for peanuts when he’s been arguably their most impactful two-way ES forward. I don’t think they need to trade anyone to get compliant if my CapFriendly Armchair GM is accurate, but if they were to trade anyone it needs to be Eller. Protas is more than capable of replacing what Eller brings at center.
Why would they need to replace what Eller brings at center if Backstrom is back? Or are you talking about if Wilson comes back and Backstrom isn't playing yet?
 
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the Pros for Sheary are he's improved and developed his time at WSH and is consistently producing, very versatile, and healthy with showing no signs of slowing down; could easily see 2-3 years of maintaining his current levels

...with Beagle he was maxed out, was never going to improve or turn into anything more than what he was... the hardest working player out there who was aging, regressing, and less physically capable of playing how he did in years prior
I don’t see Sheary hitting another level either, but he’s consistent and fits in anywhere in a pinch.
 
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