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Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2022-23 Season Part 3: Drop the puck!
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Tolvanen waived. Caps should be 300% on him, IMO this guy still has so much potential, plays 200 ft game and can snipe. Screw stats especially from this season, i just have feeling he'll still end up as a good scoring threat with sound 2-way game
okay forgot he is finnish so no chance at all lmao
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While I'm not against rolling the dice on Tolvanen, I don't think anything about his history in Nashville makes it seem like we're the team to rejuvenate him here. Hell, didn't he already have issues with Lavi? I swear I remember him coming over and supposed to be the savior one playoff run and Lavi and the team didn't play him because he wasn't up to snuff.
Though that might be my impression because I still follow Vingan from his Caps stint.
As for a Kuznetsov trade, what do people think his return would actually be? I've never seen a concrete idea on what people expect in a return for trading him.
Though that might be my impression because I still follow Vingan from his Caps stint.
As for a Kuznetsov trade, what do people think his return would actually be? I've never seen a concrete idea on what people expect in a return for trading him.
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Tolvanen would be a tremendous low-risk, high-reward waiver claim, but zero chance that Laviolette will give him any more leeway to operate than Hynes did in Nashville.
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Low.
He's enigmatic low-end 1C with lots of term left and several red flags around him. In terms of trade value it's not the best thing that he has basically said in an interview that he doesn't give 100% effort all the time. He also has that cocaine thing dragging his value down.
I think there are teams willing to take a swing at him but i don't see much coming back to be honest. They'd get some cap space to use but that’s propably it.
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What would Kuznetsov return in a trade? Well in the past year, we've seen a rental Claude Giroux return a small fortune (even despite Giroux's NMC limiting the options) but a full season of Max Pacioretty (until he got injured) be traded for literal "future considerations." So, it could vary widely depending on the circumstances of the trade. If Backstrom is coming off of LTIR and teams know the Capitals are in a cap bind, it could be practically nothing in return. If the Capitals are dealing at the deadline to multiple suitors interested (although they may have to consider inter-division trades to find that type of market), then maybe they can get a return that helps accelerate a rebuild.
Whether or not they should trade Kuznetsov is going to depend directly on what they can expect from McMichael and Lapierre in the near future. If the Caps hope to return to relevancy, a Kuzy rebound is the easiest answer to that, and thus hanging onto him makes sense. However, given Strome is playing decently for a bubble-playoff-1C, if they can find that CMM of Lapierre can be trusted to handle top 6 center duties in the immediate future, they could opt to move from Kuznetsov to free up cap space to make other moves. In order to make that informed decision, they need to be giving Lappy and CMM NHL time at the center position with scoring wingers and powerplay time in the very near future.
If the Capitals are looking to move on from one of their inconsistent highly paid players, I think Carlson is the one to trade.
Whether or not they should trade Kuznetsov is going to depend directly on what they can expect from McMichael and Lapierre in the near future. If the Caps hope to return to relevancy, a Kuzy rebound is the easiest answer to that, and thus hanging onto him makes sense. However, given Strome is playing decently for a bubble-playoff-1C, if they can find that CMM of Lapierre can be trusted to handle top 6 center duties in the immediate future, they could opt to move from Kuznetsov to free up cap space to make other moves. In order to make that informed decision, they need to be giving Lappy and CMM NHL time at the center position with scoring wingers and powerplay time in the very near future.
If the Capitals are looking to move on from one of their inconsistent highly paid players, I think Carlson is the one to trade.
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Not sure there's a cap fit with Minny & Kuz. There's Dumba but he's fallen off a good bit and is similarly buyer beware. I mean, I guess returns could be worse if they mainly want to get out of the term remaining (and I would think cap space would be the primary asset gained). It makes some sense with Kaprizov there but the Caps aren't going to want to retain if that's what it takes. And Guerin is probably not primarily interested given some of the question marks with the player and their tight margins due to dead cap buyouts.
It's more of an off-season move and even then there's probably only a handful of teams that make sense. Maybe Montreal. CBJ if he's open to playing with Gaudreau. Chicago.
It's more of an off-season move and even then there's probably only a handful of teams that make sense. Maybe Montreal. CBJ if he's open to playing with Gaudreau. Chicago.
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Big if true. Hopefully Orlov’s not physically hampered. No need to rush him back.
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Colorado is the team that jumps to mind, especially if they still have LTIR to play with closer to the deadline. They have a gap at 2C (well 1C as well with MacKinnon on LTIR), and are clearly aiming to continue contending. The two years remaining is the biggest hang-up, especially with MacKinnon's new contract kicking in next year. But they also have Erik Johnson's $6M coming off the books (which pays for Mack's raise), so with some smart maneuvers and/or retention by the Capitals, they could make it work.
Of course, they have to hope that Colorado doesn't go for rentals like ROR, Toews, Larkin or Horvat instead. But if Detroit or Chicago make moves to keep their guys around, that will narrow that market.
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My point in bringing up the Kuznetsov discussion was more that, even the majority who want him traded don't think/know that he'll get a good return. I'd probably put out there that Kuzy as he is now is still move valuable then anything you'd get in a trade, unless someone wows you. I guess that math changes if Backstrom can come back at close to 80 or 90 percent but that's still well up in the air.
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They most certainly would get more than cap space come on….
Like any other Cap IMO…..eligible to be part of a good hockey trade, but not a sell off, not yet.
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The empty net thing is going to get very interesting as he gets closer to breaking Gretzky's record. I wonder if you'll see teams choosing to not pull the goalie (if it's a "non crucial" game for example) just to be spiteful and make if more difficult? I'm pretty sure Jersey refused to pull the goalie a few seasons back in order to deny him reaching 50 goals?
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I'm in the minority here but I really don't want to see him break the record as a shell of his former self, being wheeled out to his office and then wheeled out for the EN opportunities.
It's inevitable he will end up with more EN's than Gretzky but I'm hoping it won't become his primary way of scoring goals from here on in. It's way more enjoyable seeing him get one past the goalie and doing his celebration.
It's inevitable he will end up with more EN's than Gretzky but I'm hoping it won't become his primary way of scoring goals from here on in. It's way more enjoyable seeing him get one past the goalie and doing his celebration.
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Meanwhile...
- The Caps are now on a 7-2-1 run in Last 10
- 4 game winning streak
- 6 goals against in last 4
- 22 goals against in last 10
- 29% PP last 10 gms
- all while 7 of last 8 on the road
shutting down a lot of teams that were coming in hot
It's been fun watching the team get back on track and getting some well deserved 'W's
Now seriously knocking on the door of the WC's only 1 and 2 pts behind
Proud of these shitbirds climbing back into it!
- The Caps are now on a 7-2-1 run in Last 10
- 4 game winning streak
- 6 goals against in last 4
- 22 goals against in last 10
- 29% PP last 10 gms
- all while 7 of last 8 on the road
shutting down a lot of teams that were coming in hot
It's been fun watching the team get back on track and getting some well deserved 'W's
Now seriously knocking on the door of the WC's only 1 and 2 pts behind
Proud of these shitbirds climbing back into it!
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No word on when Wilson or Backstrom return, but based off how the caps are handling it both seem to have a similar timeline (late this month/early january? not sure)
Yes. It was the Cup season 17/18.
Ovie had scored his 48 and 49 in that game and Caps was leading 5-3, but Devils didnt want to give him opportunity to score the hattrick and reach 50. Ovie played almost the last 3 minutes if I remember correctly and got couple shots, but whole that time someone was also standing right next to Ovie. They didnt even realistically try to tie the game up, only cared about Ovie not scoring.
That was sort of disgusting in a way and I remember to whine about it every once in a while. Ovie deserved the 50 that year (had a down year before, nice bounceback), and especially in that game as he was a man in a mission.
Im sure some teams will take the Jersey-road. On a positive side, if Ovie keeps even relatively healthy he wont be needing empty netters. Its just a nice add at this point.
I actually don't mind Strome as a 1C. Obviously we won't be winning the cup with him there but we won't be winning the cup anyways. I think a centre lineup of Strome, Kuzy, CMM/Lapi, Dowd is perfectly fine for next year given what this team is at this moment.
Most likely yes. Lindgren has been great and is on a win streak- and as it seems Kuemper is not at 100% yet, there is no need to rush him to the net.
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