Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2022-23 Season Part 3: Drop the puck!

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Ovechkins Wodka

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Why would the Avs be after Kuz over Kane. Both pretty similar players. But Kane has no cap hit after this year and a No trade

Maybe Kane is dead set on going to NYC

If the Avs have real offers for Kuz I would have to listen. I would rather keep him and don’t think he’s trash


That would be something wow
 

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Kidding aside from my previous post, yes, that would be of interest. What's Newhook looking for with his next contract? And what's his deal... I thought he was supposed to slide into the 2C role after Kadri left? Has he been a disappointment or just not ready to be 2C on a team with Cup aspirations?

Sounds good. What the status on EJ & Landeskog? Would COL require retention?
There’s speculation Landy might miss the whole season and EJ broke his ankle, based on timelines it is very likely he misses the whole season.
Not a bad offer, actually. Haven't seem much of Newhook, but seems to have a high motor rate coupled with some scoring touch. Wouldn't hang up the phone on this and would be interested in that other "+"
I think there’s a few issues with Newhook in terms of 2C. There’s concerns he might not be good enough long term to be a 2C and that his long term fit is as a good top 6 winger or a 3C. Part of the issue is Colorado can’t afford to have him learn in that position as the Avs have dealt with all kinds of injuries and a young player learning to grow into a role of 2C. He plays his best with players that can create space and are responsible defensively for him to be successful at center right now. With player like Nuke and Landy missing time we haven’t had the players to help him succeed in that position full time.

Why would the Avs be after Kuz over Kane. Both pretty similar players. But Kane has no cap hit after this year and a No trade

Maybe Kane is dead set on going to NYC

If the Avs have real offers for Kuz I would have to listen. I would rather keep him and don’t think he’s trash


That would be something wow

Colorado needs a 2C badly, Kuz is signed longer term and has a certain contract to plan around.
 

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If a trading partner has cap space, BMac could package Mantha with a player like Eller and, although he'd get less in return, the Caps' flexibility going into the offseason would improve significantly. Might require some retention on Mantha's salary. Just gotta find the right partner.
 

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As long as we don't give up our first, I'm all in on Chychrun. But I'd much rather do it in the offseason then now which doesn't seem likely.
 

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I didn't even realize Chychurn has 2 more years at 4.5 cap hit. Imagine turning Orlov and Hathaway into Chychurn. That'd be quite the haul. Arguably upgrade LD for a cheaper cap hit.

The real issue would be how he'd pair with Carlson, cause I'm done with the Fehervary x Carlson pairing.
 

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Given the cap hit, given some of his metrics Chychrun definitely belongs at the top of a trade target list. It's more a question of what else in addition to the Boston pick is required to make it happen.
 

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This would be an absolute masterclass by BMac and I would absolutely, gladly eat my words about where we are at after yesterday’s trade. Imagine they can also snag Schmaltz.
 
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Given the cap hit, given some of his metrics Chychrun definitely belongs at the top of a trade target list. It's more a question of what else in addition to the Boston pick is required to make it happen.
His injury history is quite concerning. Both knees, both wrists, one shoulder, one ankle. All significant injuries and procedures as well. But he is elite.
 

Brian23

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Why would the Avs be after Kuz over Kane. Both pretty similar players. But Kane has no cap hit after this year and a No trade
I mean, one is a 34 year old winger who seems pretty broken down physically, but is still putting up points. The other is a 30 year old center who has been healthy, but seemingly completely disinterested in the game but is still putting up points.

I know who I'd rather bank on turning it around in that scenario.
 

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Dreger seems to be throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.

I don't believe he has any legit insight on the Capitals, seems like pure speculation. I would love to acquire Chychrun but i can't see it. LHD doesn't fit our PP1 so i can't see us paying the premium for him.
 

LesDiablesRouges

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Dreger seems to be throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.

I don't believe he has any legit insight on the Capitals, seems like pure speculation. I would love to acquire Chychrun but i can't see it. LHD doesn't fit our PP1 so i can't see us paying the premium for him.
He was the one to put Orlov to BOS out there way before a trade was made official or there was any public scoop.

All while all the other insiders had a deal in place for Gavrikov to go to BOS (which very well may have been the case before Orlov was put on the market).
 

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I don't have access to the microstats but from what I remember Chychrun is basically good at everything Carlson is not good at, so in theory perhaps that would be a solid first pairing.

I still think Jensen needs to be a target to re-sign if he doesn't command much in the trade market.
 

bacchist

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I don't have access to the microstats but from what I remember Chychrun is basically good at everything Carlson is not good at, so in theory perhaps that would be a solid first pairing.

I still think Jensen needs to be a target to re-sign if he doesn't command much in the trade market.
We don't even know if Carlson is going to return, and what kind of player he will be if he does. I'm not too optimistic.
 

EroCaps

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Well this is hyperbole. Mantha wasn't a cast off for Detroit, we just offered a more dynamic player and picks. Strome was one of Chicago's best players. Milano is really the only one that fits that bill and he's been legitimately good.

It's like calling Oshie a castoff from the Blues, it's just being salty to be salty at that point.
Mantha was having issues in Detroit before they moved him. It was head case for head case and the Caps were stupid enough to throw in picks.

Strome is a young player on his third team for a reason. Yeah, he was a top line player on a bottom tier team.

Milano literally cast off from the worst team in the league.

Caps fans haven’t won a playoff round in 5 years and they’re turning into Commanders fans thinking their shit is gold.
 

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I do not believe we are in n a position to trade 2 firsts for Chychrun.
Two firsts, no. The Boston first, one of CMM/Lapierre and maybe some other later picks...probably. Given Chychrun's low cap hit and the thin UFA D market it makes sense for him to be perhaps a top target. Hard to think of any comparable younger impact D non-rentals on the market.

But there are at least a half dozen seriously interested teams it seems and winning that bidding war could be tough. If they were to also take back Kassian or something (or other expiring deals to help further save $$$) that could help relative to other teams and maybe they'd settle for less. St. Louis may be the only other team positioned to do so. Weaponizing cap space along those lines should be utilized to some extent to walk away with more assets going forward. If they're shutting down Carlson then they should be another team interested in being a third-party broker using their space strategically.
 

EroCaps

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The main thing with Lavi is there is no future there whatsoever. It's always all at stake today and that's it. Rinse and repeat. But once you start breaking it down where is that motivation coming from? Where is the perspective?

There's really no choice to be made if they want some developing upside and the promise of a new beginning. It's not all on him. I think MacLellan consistently fails to adequately check and restrain his coaches to make them more effective. He just leaves them to their own devices and, surprise surprise, they don't care about tomorrow.
You don’t hire a coach and step all over their toes. Lavi was a fine hire. Maybe the best possible hire. The team is washed and it was washed 2 years ago.

Caps fans need to stop living in 2018.
 

Hivemind

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I do not believe we are in n a position to trade 2 firsts for Chychrun.
At the moment? Probably not. But if they get another couple picks for guys like Eller, Johansson, Gustaffson, and Sheary then it's much more feasible to give up the Chychrun asking price.
 

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i'm a simple man. i watch hockey and i want to see the best players wearing caps jersey. that's why i want chychrun. i would be also the worst gm ever but that's not the point
 
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