Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2021 Off-Season Pt. 2

[Corby78]

Also iirc Semin, Vrana, Forsberg, and Kuzy all essentially fell into our laps by dropping in the draft for various reasons.

Hmmm and 3 of the 4 we have had "compete level" issues with.

 

[txpd]

Also iirc Semin, Vrana, Forsberg, and Kuzy all essentially fell into our laps by dropping in the draft for various reasons.

When its a good thing, it falls into your lap. When its a grenade, though....

 

[Devil Dancer]

Today was a rare day in the office, as opposed to teleworking. Just realized I still have my 2019-20 Capitals season schedule hanging at my desk.

I discovered the same thing on Tuesday!

 

[Devil Dancer]

Also iirc Semin, Vrana, Forsberg, and Kuzy all essentially fell into our laps by dropping in the draft for various reasons.

And Lapiere.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

I thought I remember Vrana being projected as a mid to late 1st in most rankings, although in preseason rankings he was higher than that.

 

[g00n]

I thought I remember Vrana being projected as a mid to late 1st in most rankings, although in preseason rankings he was higher than that.

He was the one I wasn't sure about. He might even have been a reach, but he was also a GMBM pick, iirc.

So the point basically stands that some of the "wins" McPhee scored were less about scouting/drafting and about getting lucky. Ovechkin included.

 

[txpd]

He was the one I wasn't sure about. He might even have been a reach, but he was also a GMBM pick, iirc.

So the point basically stands that some of the "wins" McPhee scored were less about scouting/drafting and about getting lucky. Ovechkin included.

Central scouting had Vrana at 4 among european skaters. Behind Fiala and ahead of Pasternk

 

[hockeykicker]

take it with a grain of salt, but nhl insiders do follow him

 

[Brian23]

He was also hyping up Ovechkin to the Islander's earlier, so take it with a large grain of salt.

I just can't imagine any trade of Kuznetsov makes us better.

 

[Langway]

Insider Trading: The price is high for a top four defenceman - Video - TSN

 

[hockeykicker]

Insider Trading: The price is high for a top four defenceman - Video - TSN

and then like magic lol

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

damn ive wanted Jones since his draft class

 

[traparatus]

I'm looking at the Ristolainen deal and I'm really hoping that Dillon's name is out there.

I simple first round pick will suffice.

 

[Gopack76]

Sure.

You joined this board well before the Stanley Cup win. Yet not One Single Post exalting that historic achievement. NOT ONE

Then we see you posting a litany of negativity about the team, during what is seemingly a low point for GMBM, and you expect us to take you seriously? Every Single Post is a dig at the GM or their moves. ALL of THEM.

Look, no one is looking for people to be pollyanna’s here, but if you won’t post anything positive even when positive things happen (including the most positive thing ever) don’t think you won’t be seen as a troll when all you want to do is negatively stir up the pot.

but whatever. You do you.

I don't care if anyone takes it seriously or not. It's a message board. Which apparently some people take way too serious when they start looking up post history than being all hurt cause I should've posted a celebratory something after the Stanley Cup on here.

the "but whatever. You do you." is funny after you complain about it.

 

[Hivemind]

damn ive wanted Jones since his draft class

Not for 9.5M AAV for 7 years you don’t

 

[Gopack76]

Oh sorry, 6 is a "baker's handful" I guess. LOL

McPhee left the drafting to his staff, iirc, and it eventually improved. Have you ever looked at his draft history prior to the rebuild/Ovechkin when they stocked up on high picks? It's not great. And for much of his tenure it was expected that all the high draft picks were going to be roster players for the big club. That focus changed after he was gone, with more emphasis on rebuilding the farm system. GMBM has also never picked higher than 22nd overall, while McPhee had enjoyed much higher positioning to build some of the core players for the Cup run.

Who's starting for Vegas that McPhee drafted? It's 4 drafts vs 6. One guy, plus another 2-way player? We're talking about kids who usually go to college or the minors before they're ripe enough in their early 20s to even try and dent the lineup. The Capitals have been in "win now" mode for GMBM's entire tenure and with a few exceptions there's been little room for upward mobility.

So what else you got? What are you basing your failed development opinion on, other than some superficial analysis of starting players that ignores the actual opportunities for promotion (and McPhee's actual draft history)?

So now you are saying more guys that GMBM drafted haven't played on the team due to lack of chances? Who controls those chances? No one force the GM to fill every slot with a veteran. There is always room for upward mobility by guys drafted if they are good enough. It's remarkable how many excuses you come up with to defend a bad drafting record to this point.

BTW, why would I care about Vegas?

 

[TheLegendOfPatPeake]

BMac is on the phone somewhere begging a team to take one of our many expendable d-men with not so great contracts.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Ugh we traded more for Mantha then Jones went for

 

[hockeykicker]

Ugh we traded more for Mantha then Jones went for

ummmm did you forget the part where they added a panik contract?

 

[g00n]

So now you are saying more guys that GMBM drafted haven't played on the team due to lack of chances? Who controls those chances? No one force the GM to fill every slot with a veteran. There is always room for upward mobility by guys drafted if they are good enough. It's remarkable how many excuses you come up with to defend a bad drafting record to this point.

BTW, why would I care about Vegas?

Do you really need all of this to be explained to you?

 

[Calicaps]

This comment doesn't even make sense.

And so dies irony.

 

[um]

He was also hyping up Ovechkin to the Islander's earlier, so take it with a large grain of salt.

I just can't imagine any trade of Kuznetsov makes us better.

I think there are many players that GMs would like to move that nobody ever finds out about. Sometimes trades come out of nowhere.

 

[Misery74]

I would love to understand, we have $9.7ish in cap space. We bring McMichael up, it’s drips under $9.

How do we sign OV, 2 goaltenders? Also,

 

[Cappy76]

I would love to understand, we have $9.7ish in cap space. We bring McMichael up, it’s drips under $9.

How do we sign OV, 2 goaltenders? Also,

You move Schultz 4 mill
Ovie gets around 10
Sammy gets 1-2 bridge

 

[StephenPeat]

we need a good backup. which also means we need cap space. goodbye evgeny kuznetsov

Solid play losing a 1/2C for a backup goalie. That’s like some generationally bad Asset Management. IOW don’t hold your breath.