Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2020 Offseason Pt. 4

[HecticGlow]

Orpik had a knee injury bad enough that he couldnt walk up and down stairs.

That's true, although he and Siegenthaler put together had trouble breaking out the puck. Which isn't that surprising from two defence-first Ds.

At any rate, Djoos isn't done in the NHL yet – claimed by the Red Wings. Anaheim fans on the main board suggesting it was a numbers game, rather than weak performance, as they'd been happy with Djoos.

 

[um]

That's true, although he and Siegenthaler put together had trouble breaking out the puck. Which isn't that surprising from two defence-first Ds.

At any rate, Djoos isn't done in the NHL yet – claimed by the Red Wings. Anaheim fans on the main board suggesting it was a numbers game, rather than weak performance, as they'd been happy with Djoos.

Djoos is the Brett Connolly of defense. He's bouncing around a bit but I think he'll find a consistent NHL role eventually.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

That's true, although he and Siegenthaler put together had trouble breaking out the puck. Which isn't that surprising from two defence-first Ds.

At any rate, Djoos isn't done in the NHL yet – claimed by the Red Wings. Anaheim fans on the main board suggesting it was a numbers game, rather than weak performance, as they'd been happy with Djoos.

Absolutely a numbers game, same as it was here....if he goes to a bad enough organization he might get a season or 2 tops IMO. I don’t think his performance has ever been all that weak, but he is what he is....a limited player. I wish him well for sure.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Absolutely a numbers game, same as it was here....if he goes to a bad enough organization he might get a season or 2 tops IMO. I don’t think his performance has ever been all that weak, but he is what he is....a limited player. I wish him well for sure.

Is there a worse team than Det?

I know they maybe aren’t a “bad organization in the sense of say, Ottawa or Arizona, but they sure are a bad team

 

[Coldplay619]

Djoos has been on for 82 GF and 58 GA in his NHL career at even strength.

That's a 58% GF over 119 regular season games, dude is clearly doing something right when he's on the ice.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Is there a worse team than Det?

I know they maybe aren’t a “bad organization in the sense of say, Ottawa or Arizona, but they sure are a bad team

Exactly, so he should (hopefully) hang onto a job for at least this season.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Djoos has been on for 82 GF and 58 GA in his NHL career at even strength.

That's a 58% GF over 119 regular season games, dude is clearly doing something right when he's on the ice.

getting on and off at the right time?

 

[Hivemind]

oh please

It's the truth. The Orpik-Jerebek pairing was routinely pinned in its own zone. There's a reason they gave up an even-strength goal against in both of the first two playoff games. Djoos only gave up 5 ES goals against the next 22 games of the playoffs combined. The Orpik/Djoos pairing was demonstrably better than the Orpik/Jerebek pairing, and that's largely because Djoos was a great compliment to Orpik and Djoos provided the pairing the ability to get out of their own zone, and helped cover for Orpik's lack of mobility when forechecked.

You can compare Djoos' 2017-18 regular season stats to Orpik's here:
Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick
It's a pretty gaping disparity. Djoos' GF% was 59% to Orpik's 41%. Djoos' expected goals against was barely more than half of Orpik's. This is backed up by every scoring chance, shot, and shot attempt-based metric. There's no question Djoos had more offensive deployments, but he was also seeing a fair chunk of Top 4 time prior to the acquisition of Kempny.

And their playoffs (mostly spent together):
Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

The cult of Orpik glosses over how limited of a player he was by the time he joined the Capitals. It's not always the "stay at home" guy who bails out his partner. It's often the puck carrier is the one to act as the pressure relief when the opposing team is forechecking.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Do you think Chara and Jensen can out preform what Orpik Djoos did?

 

[Hivemind]

Do you think Chara and Jensen can out preform what Orpik Djoos did?

I hope so. Will depend on chemistry and what state Chara's game is in at age 43. But they have the potential to be among the best 3rd pairings in the league (assuming neither of them gets dragooned into Top 4 duty). A 3rd pairing you neither have to shelter nor worry about getting pinned in its own zone is a nice thing to have.

 

[BallardEra]

Caps not getting much respect here for this season:

Best bets to make/miss the playoffs: Regression looms for Canucks, Caps

 

[Eirikrautha]

The Bruins, Penguins, and Flyers will claim three divisional playoff spots, leaving the Capitals to fight for the final slot.

Washington Capitals	-190	+160
Calgary Flames	-185	+155
Pittsburgh Penguins	-180	+150

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

So the Penguins are a lock for a slot, but are lower f***ing ranked on your own list (of odds to make the playoffs) than the Caps!?!?!?! Once again, do these jackasses not read their own stats? Shouldn't the sentence be "The Bruins, Flyers, and Capitals will claim three divisional playoff spots, leaving the Penguins to fight for the final slot"? The (pro-Penguin/anti-Caps) bias of some of these folks is ridiculous...

 

[dillyboy93]

Not sure if this is the right place for this but is there a scrimmage tomorrow? If so anyone know the time? Thought I read there was but I can't find it anywhere online

 

[txpd]

It's the truth. The Orpik-Jerebek pairing was routinely pinned in its own zone. There's a reason they gave up an even-strength goal against in both of the first two playoff games. Djoos only gave up 5 ES goals against the next 22 games of the playoffs combined. The Orpik/Djoos pairing was demonstrably better than the Orpik/Jerebek pairing, and that's largely because Djoos was a great compliment to Orpik and Djoos provided the pairing the ability to get out of their own zone, and helped cover for Orpik's lack of mobility when forechecked.

You can compare Djoos' 2017-18 regular season stats to Orpik's here:
Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick
It's a pretty gaping disparity. Djoos' GF% was 59% to Orpik's 41%. Djoos' expected goals against was barely more than half of Orpik's. This is backed up by every scoring chance, shot, and shot attempt-based metric. There's no question Djoos had more offensive deployments, but he was also seeing a fair chunk of Top 4 time prior to the acquisition of Kempny.

And their playoffs (mostly spent together):
Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

The cult of Orpik glosses over how limited of a player he was by the time he joined the Capitals. It's not always the "stay at home" guy who bails out his partner. It's often the puck carrier is the one to act as the pressure relief when the opposing team is forechecking.

The cult of Orpik.

 

[tenken00]

Not sure if this is the right place for this but is there a scrimmage tomorrow? If so anyone know the time? Thought I read there was but I can't find it anywhere online

I think they will release that information tomorrow morning. But they did say there is a broadcasted scrimmage for Sunday.

 

[txpd]

So it appears that Panik is the focus of the new Lavy program. Interesting

 

[dillyboy93]

I think they will release that information tomorrow morning. But they did say there is a broadcasted scrimmage for Sunday.

Great thanks, I'll keep an eye out tomorrow!

 

[TheLegendOfPatPeake]

It's the truth. The Orpik-Jerebek pairing was routinely pinned in its own zone. There's a reason they gave up an even-strength goal against in both of the first two playoff games. Djoos only gave up 5 ES goals against the next 22 games of the playoffs combined. The Orpik/Djoos pairing was demonstrably better than the Orpik/Jerebek pairing, and that's largely because Djoos was a great compliment to Orpik and Djoos provided the pairing the ability to get out of their own zone, and helped cover for Orpik's lack of mobility when forechecked.

You can compare Djoos' 2017-18 regular season stats to Orpik's here:
Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick
It's a pretty gaping disparity. Djoos' GF% was 59% to Orpik's 41%. Djoos' expected goals against was barely more than half of Orpik's. This is backed up by every scoring chance, shot, and shot attempt-based metric. There's no question Djoos had more offensive deployments, but he was also seeing a fair chunk of Top 4 time prior to the acquisition of Kempny.

And their playoffs (mostly spent together):
Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

The cult of Orpik glosses over how limited of a player he was by the time he joined the Capitals. It's not always the "stay at home" guy who bails out his partner. It's often the puck carrier is the one to act as the pressure relief when the opposing team is forechecking.

If there was a cult of Orpik consider me a full fledge member who pays his dues on time.

 

[Ridley Simon]

So it appears that Panik is the focus of the new Lavy program. Interesting

What do you mean

 

[Ridley Simon]

Who cares where they are picking the Caps. Last time the team was disregarded coming into the season was 2017. So, yeah.

 

[illpucks]

Is McMichael going to make the team and play in game 1?

 

[SherVaughn30]

So who do you all think the 3rd goalie will be? I'm rooting for Anderson and in regard to the salary cap, Anderson will have a lower cap hit if signed, than Copley. Copley has a one-way NHL contract so he could be picked off waivers. Anderson would be picked off waiver with more demand, but his cap hit would still allow the Caps to call him. Because of Copley's cap hit, they might not even be able to call him up unless they have the cap space.

 

[usiel]

Is McMichael going to make the team and play in game 1?

Nope the Q protocols are going to delay.

 

[Eirikrautha]

Caps Scrimmage at 4:30 PM today, Live on the Capitals FB and Twitter and NBCSNW FB and Twitter.

Info

 

[HecticGlow]

Nope the Q protocols are going to delay.

And he isn't expected to be more than taxi-squad, if he makes the team in any form. Not only does he have a lot more development still to do before he's close to a legitimate NHL player, but it's unlikely the Caps will carry an extra forward for cap reasons – so it's likely going to come down to Sheary versus Sprong for the 12th forward slot and first recall from the taxi-squad (assuming one of them clears waivers).