Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign D Tyler Myers to 5-Year, $30m Deal ($6m AAV)

[joelCAMEL]

Hahaha yeah, I thought I recognized a few of them too obviously. I was pretty young when Rumble was on the charts myself.

That cop kind of reminded me of a youngish Sterling Hayden...

Since your clip was deleted, I watched it again on YouTube. I think the cop was Darren McGavin. i remember him from Mike Hammer and Riverboat.

 

[Zippgunn]

The forum decides what it is. That means posters on both sides, including you.

As to the signing: Myers is overpaid. That much is clear. Did Benning need to do something? Probably, but he put himself in the situation to have to do something. These things don't just happen. This is years of failed attempts and poor planning coming home to roost. So people can stop it with the supposition. It was a no win situation because that's what Benning created for himself.

Open invitation: If any of the pro-Benning crowd that have made comments here really want to get into what he could have done with the defense throughout his 6 offseasons, I'm game to have that discussion. Let me know.

Well howsabout we talk about just THIS season? What could he have done differently to make our defense better? I agree with the poster that says that the last years of this contract might well be odious but that probably goes for 99% of the UFA contracts that are handed out. Myers was pretty much the best option available, imperfect though he may be (signing UFA's to bolster you team is not the greatest way to improve it but it IS one option and one that costs the team nothing but money which FAQ seems to have lots of). I agree he has made mistakes along the way but I don't see what else he could have done THIS off season. What do you think?

 

[PuckMunchkin]

It actually is true. I have been jumped by the vigilantes by calling them on their exaggerations and claims. It does not bother me because I have thick skin and their barks are worse than their bites.

Trust me. The people here who are not fans of Benning pretty much all, also think the rebuild is nowhere near done and also dont want him anywhere near a phone on July 1st.

 

[joelCAMEL]

Trust me. The people here who are not fans of Benning pretty much all, also think the rebuild is nowhere near done and also dont want him anywhere near a phone on July 1st.

I agree that the rebuild is not complete, but rebuilds seldom get done completely. The fans may want 2-3 years more but it is the owner who is deciding when to try for a playoff spot. I am convinced that Benning is being micro-managed on personnel and contracts.

I just want results from the GM, regardless if it is Benning or his replacement.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I am convinced that Benning is being micro-managed on personnel and contracts.

I think so too. Like When Benning couldn't get Lucic Mr Aquilini instructed him to just go out and get the best forward he could for the allocated Lucic money. And so with Tyler Myers and etc.

The fans may want 2-3 years more but it is the owner who is deciding when to try for a playoff spot.

Yes and with Mr Aquilini at the helm every season is a playoff push; no season is a write off. The organizational philosophy of trying to make the playoffs every season (and maybe getting lucky and winning a cup) was actually published in a guest op ed piece in one of the newspapers written by a top teqam exec whose name escapes me several years ago. It was kind of a jaw dropper - a guy over at CDC posted it once and kept quoting from it (it was a gold mine of quotable quotes) until he was eventually banned. I'll never forget it, nor have I ever looked at the Aquilini Canucks in quite the same way.

 

[Bobby Digital]

I bet Myers exceeds his last years total..He's going to be given every opportunity here...

Why are you so caught up in point totals for Myers? We need him to be good at DEFENSE which he's isn't good at, and is just getting worse.

 

[Bobby Digital]

Well howsabout we talk about just THIS season? What could he have done differently to make our defense better? I agree with the poster that says that the last years of this contract might well be odious but that probably goes for 99% of the UFA contracts that are handed out. Myers was pretty much the best option available, imperfect though he may be (signing UFA's to bolster you team is not the greatest way to improve it but it IS one option and one that costs the team nothing but money which FAQ seems to have lots of). I agree he has made mistakes along the way but I don't see what else he could have done THIS off season. What do you think?

Calvin DeHaan or Jokiharju at their cost >>>> Tyler's Myers at his.

Rasmus Ristolainen, who Buffalo is seemingly willing to trade, and fits our age group would also have been a much better acquisition.

 

[joelCAMEL]

I think so too. Like When Benning couldn't get Lucic Mr Aquilini instructed him to just go out and get the best forward he could for the allocated Lucic money. And so with Tyler Myers and etc.

Yes and with Mr Aquilini at the helm every season is a playoff push; no season is a write off. The organizational philosophy of trying to make the playoffs every season (and maybe getting lucky and winning a cup) was actually published in a guest op ed piece in one of the newspapers written by a top teqam exec whose name escapes me several years ago. It was kind of a jaw dropper - a guy over at CDC posted it once and kept quoting from it (it was a gold mine of quotable quotes) until he was eventually banned. I'll never forget it, nor have I ever looked at the Aquilini Canucks in quite the same way.

IF Aquilini is actually micro-managing, then this would explain why the Canuck front shop is so small..."we spend to the cap and we do not need more costs for extra hockey execs." It probably took a lot of lobbying for an analytics position to be approved. Recently, Scott Walker and 3 scouts left the organization. If they are not replaced, then it also implies that they are cutting costs there too.

Anybody from BC only has to look at Pizza Hut. Aquilini owns the 48 franchises in BC, and they have run that restaurant into the ground.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Why are you so caught up in point totals for Myers? We need him to be good at DEFENSE which he's isn't good at, and is just getting worse.

His defensive game is not the greatest (well documented),but his offensive game is...I guess we're going to have to outscore our opponents...Basically,the Canucks have had no offense from the back end for seemingly years, and need someone who can transition the puck quickly out of our zone (Hughes will also help in this regard).

Canucks also need to improve their PP..it was 22nd (somewhere around there) last season..Myers will improve that.

Did you see Erik Karlsson in the playoffs last season..?...He was on the ice, for what seemed like every goal against..Why is he getting $11.5 M a season?

Pilots Logbook 2018-19: Tyler Myers

 

[lousy]

His defensive game is not the greatest (well documented),but his offensive game is...I guess we're going to have to outscore our opponents...Basically,the Canucks have had no offense from the back end for seemingly years, and need someone who can transition the puck quickly out of our zone (Hughes will also help in this regard).

Canucks also need to improve their PP..it was 22nd (somewhere around there) last season..Myers will improve that.

Did you see Erik Karlsson in the playoffs last season..?...He was on the ice, for what seemed like every goal against..Why is he getting $11.5 M a season?

Pilots Logbook 2018-19: Tyler Myers

I completely agree that the canucks defense needed more offence, and Myers will help with that. Something had to change, and Myers was brought in without giving up assets. I am okay with the move. But wasn't Karlsson playing with a groin injury in the playoffs?

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

I completely agree that the canucks defense needed more offence, and Myers will help with that. Something had to change, and Myers was brought in without giving up assets. I am okay with the move. But wasn't Karlsson playing with a groin injury in the playoffs?

Karlsson was playing with a groin injury, but he looked hideous defensively in last years playoffs...After more investigation though, ..when he's healthy he's not as bad as I thought he was (when you have the puck on your stick a lot,statistics do tend to get skewed).

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I agree that the rebuild is not complete, but rebuilds seldom get done completely. The fans may want 2-3 years more but it is the owner who is deciding when to try for a playoff spot. I am convinced that Benning is being micro-managed on personnel and contracts.

I just want results from the GM, regardless if it is Benning or his replacement.

So as long as I dont mention the name of the General Manager, criticism of the management is ok?

 

[joelCAMEL]

So as long as I dont mention the name of the General Manager, criticism of the management is ok?

This has not stopped you before, Puck. Besides that, I enjoy reading your posts.

 

[Zippgunn]

Calvin DeHaan or Jokiharju at their cost >>>> Tyler's Myers at his.

Rasmus Ristolainen, who Buffalo is seemingly willing to trade, and fits our age group would also have been a much better acquisition.

Were they available for nothing but cash? RR is pretty much an offence only d man and we would have had to give valuable assets for him so I don't think that would have been a better option. The other two are pretty much similar. Myers cost us nothing but money.

 

[Zippgunn]

Why are you so caught up in point totals for Myers? We need him to be good at DEFENSE which he's isn't good at, and is just getting worse.

We signed Benn for defense...

 

[Zippgunn]

I am convinced that Benning is being micro-managed on personnel and contracts.

As am I which is why my dislike of Benning isn't the full on obsessive hatred that is so prevalent here. I can't think of anybody better who would actually take the job on with FAQ breathing down his neck...

 

[Bobby Digital]

Were they available for nothing but cash? RR is pretty much an offence only d man and we would have had to give valuable assets for him so I don't think that would have been a better option. The other two are pretty much similar. Myers cost us nothing but money.

I would rather give up assets for those mentioned dmen than take Myers for what he signed for. This contract is going to be terrible in a couple years. Not to mention Myers is getting close to being an offensive only dmen as well. He's not good defensively at all.

 

[Bobby Digital]

We signed Benn for defense...

Benn is a bottom pairing dmen. Giving 5x6 to a 29 year old Dman who is solid offensively, sucks defensively and is declining is just idotic. Desperate move by a desperate GM who is in over his head.

 

[Bobby Digital]

His defensive game is not the greatest (well documented),but his offensive game is...I guess we're going to have to outscore our opponents...Basically,the Canucks have had no offense from the back end for seemingly years, and need someone who can transition the puck quickly out of our zone (Hughes will also help in this regard).

Canucks also need to improve their PP..it was 22nd (somewhere around there) last season..Myers will improve that.

Did you see Erik Karlsson in the playoffs last season..?...He was on the ice, for what seemed like every goal against..Why is he getting $11.5 M a season?

Pilots Logbook 2018-19: Tyler Myers

Erik Karlsson is on another stratosphere compared to Myers. Hes arguably the GOAT offensive dman. While he might not be the best defensively he's so good offensively that when he's on the ice his team is usually in the offensive zone generating a ton of shots, while giving up little.

Myers isn't giving you close to his production on offense and sucks on defense. 6 mil for him is a complete overpayment and we're better off with nothing than another albatross contract.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Lmao. Benn is a bottom pairing dmen. We paid #1 money to a guy who can't play defense.

GMs who have cap space seem to need to spend it....kinda to show their ownership they are doing something constructive during the offseason.
Ericsson a few years ago, summer of 2018 other UFAs and now Myers. Canucks near the cap and out of the playoffs. And Benning gets an extension

 

[Zippgunn]

I would rather give up assets for those mentioned dmen than take Myers for what he signed for. This contract is going to be terrible in a couple years. Not to mention Myers is getting close to being an offensive only dmen as well. He's not good defensively at all.

So I take it you like the Miller trade then?

 

[Bobby Digital]

So I take it you like the Miller trade then?

No, it was another horrendous Jim Benning special.

 

[Zippgunn]

No, it was another horrendous Jim Benning special.

Right so basically in your opinion anything Benning does is horrible...

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Erik Karlsson is on another stratosphere compared to Myers. Hes arguably the GOAT offensive dman. While he might not be the best defensively he's so good offensively that when he's on the ice his team is usually in the offensive zone generating a ton of shots, while giving up little.

Myers isn't giving you close to his production on offense and sucks on defense. 6 mil for him is a complete overpayment and we're better off with nothing than another albatross contract.

Myers isnt being paid $11.5 M,and he's not even a first pairing defensemen...I wasn't saying that Myers was equal to EK, just stating that a lot of offensive D-men have defensive issues.

You dont like the contract....Which always begs the question..Who would you have signed /traded to improve the Canucks defence this season?

 

[Pavel96]

Right so basically in your opinion anything Benning does is horrible...

'Another' is not the same word as 'anything'. Why twist it to this, then complain about something you fabricated?