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[Goatlender]

No, we can’t do the ownership meddling thing for the Rutherford era.

He gave them the choice to set the direction. They knew the problems and they thought it wouldn’t be an issue, and they got that wrong. They have to own that.

I agree, but I do recall reading about how Frankie was a huge fan of Petey. Am I misremembering this or do others have similar memories of this?

 

[VanillaCoke]

No, we can’t do the ownership meddling thing for the Rutherford era.

He gave them the choice to set the direction. They knew the problems and they thought it wouldn’t be an issue, and they got that wrong. They have to own that.

Rutherford was the problem with the Rutherford era.

But keeping jtm, ep40 contract and evander are nearly 100% on aqua man. Management made some errors, but the real rot is at the top, as we all know.

 

[Vector]

Maybe I was way off proposing four shiny quarters for Ep40 for the last few years but ya'll are crazy trying to propose giving him away for two nickels today.

He still has immense value leaguewide, get out of here with this capdump and scraps bullshit.

- coming from his biggest hater

To be clear, I'm not suggesting trading Pettersson for Ceci or Compher and that's it.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

He does not have immense value.

Value yes but it’s pretty minimal unless the Nucks retain.

I'd be open to retaining. The Sharks retained 1.5 million on Karlsson, and got Granlund (who was moved for a 1st to Dallas along with Ceci who had minimal value), a 1st, Mike Hoffman and Jan Rutta. That was Karlsson coming off a 100 point season, but point being, the Sharks are nowhere close to being a cap team - how much did that 1.5 million ultimately affect their ability to win coming out of the rebuild? It's a question of how open to retaining ownership would be, but eating 3 million off his contract should beef up the return a pretty good chunk.

 

[MS]

My issue with this Curtis Douglas news is that if they wait to see if someone who is tough and ‘can play’ shakes loose, I have a feeling Douglas will get snatched up in the early hours of July 1st. He had multiple claims and I don’t doubt he’s coveted.

Ideally they should be doing this obvious move first and bringing in some toughness WITH Douglas.

I said this the first time this came out but it feels like a smaller version of the Pius Suter mistake last year when they got their order of operations all wrong.

I'm sure they do want better toughness who can play, but you have to be aware of your position as a franchise and the market - EVERYONE is looking for tough players than can play and anyone who fits this description will have multiple big offers from playoff teams and won't need to be eating scraps from a 32nd place team in the middle of a rebuild. Like, Michael McCarron was never in a trillion years going to be signing with the Vancouver Canucks.

Sign Douglas. He'll be cheap. Have him in your back pocket. If you can sign someone better later, great! He had 4 or 5 teams putting waiver claims in for him in March, so if he ends up being surplus to requirements you can just move him on after training camp.

If we let him walk you absolutely know we'll end up holding the bag and nobody will sign here and we'll be right back in the same spot next season looking for toughness all over again.

And again as well : they talked about culture so much and then you have this wildly popular depth player ... to let him walk seems to go against everything they talked about.

 

[Diablo2020]

To be clear, I'm not suggesting trading Pettersson for Ceci or Compher and that's it.

I know im just lumping everyone's proposals in because there's alot of giving Ep40 away happening around here.

-At worst, he's worth the OG Jt Miller trade, imo. (1st, 3rd)

-At best, he's worth 3 of the Huggy assets, imo. (Rossi, Ohgren, 1st)

-Somewhere in between is likely the Milan Lucic/Dougie Hamilton value. (1st, 2nd, 2nd)

Drew Doughty, #17, 2027 1st for Ep40

- We retain half on DD and send him elsewhere.
- Kings add 600,000k today and get their center.

 

[Vector]

I know im just lumping everyone's proposals in because there's alot of giving Ep40 away happening around here.

-At worst, he's worth the OG Jt Miller trade, imo. (1st, 3rd)

-At best, he's worth 3 of the Huggy assets, imo. (Rossi, Ohgren, 1st)

-Somewhere in between is likely the Milan Lucic/Dougie Hamilton value. (1st, 2nd, 2nd)

Drew Doughty, #17, 2027 1st for Ep40

- We retain half on DD and send him elsewhere.
- Kings add 600,000k today and get their center.

The Kings aren't trading Drew Doughty...

 

[Gekj]

I know im just lumping everyone's proposals in because there's alot of giving Ep40 away happening around here.

-At worst, he's worth the OG Jt Miller trade, imo. (1st, 3rd)

-At best, he's worth 3 of the Huggy assets, imo. (Rossi, Ohgren, 1st)

-Somewhere in between is likely the Milan Lucic/Dougie Hamilton value. (1st, 2nd, 2nd)

Drew Doughty, #17, 2027 1st for Ep40

- We retain half on DD and send him elsewhere.
- Kings add 600,000k today and get their center.

A lot of fans would love to be off Doughty from what I've seen on these boards but have a hard time believing it'll happen prior to the trade deadline at the earliest if it were to happen at all which seems unlikely.

 

[MS]

The Kings aren't trading Drew Doughty...

Yeah, it would be absolutely stunning if he didn't retire as an LA King.

 

[Diablo2020]

Now that Anze is gone I could see DD going to a cup contender at 5,500,000 after we retain half.

One year of salary pain, that's the salary compromise we should be seeking not a longterm dump or any type of Ep40 retention.

 

[Vector]

 

[Vector]

Marcus Pettersson

• Sheng Peng said, on his podcast, that Pettersson wanted out of Vancouver
• There was a rumour going around at the combine that he wanted to be traded
• Agent has categorically denied it, loves it in Vancouver, and is excited for the new management team; told his agent that he is 1000% looking forward to next season
• Doesn’t want to go anywhere and the Canucks want to keep him

 

[wonton15]

Trades! Give me more trades!

 

[Vector]

 

[Lindgren]

Marcus Pettersson

• Sheng Peng said, on his podcast, that Pettersson wanted out of Vancouver
• There was a rumour going around at the combine that he wanted to be traded
• Agent has categorically denied it, loves it in Vancouver, and is excited for the new management team; told his agent that he is 1000% looking forward to next season
• Doesn’t want to go anywhere and the Canucks want to keep him

Scandinavians: they like Canada. Especially Vancouver. Even EP doesn't want to leave.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Why is Nashville buying depth centers who are about to turn 30

 

[Vector]

Why is Nashville buying depth centers who are about to turn 30

Because McFarland likes him and acquired him in the first place.

 

[thecupismine]

Why is Nashville buying depth centers who are about to turn 30

Yeah, I don't really understand the macro plan there. That's an organization that looks like it's in purgatory, with no real desire to get out of it either.

Outside of selling at one deadline, they've been making moves the last few years like Forsberg, Josi, & Saros are Kucherov, Hedman & Vasilevskiy.

 

[Kill Vector]

To continue my series of teams that maybe are interested in acquiring Elias Pettersson, let's look at the Red Wings. Really it is just the Kings and Red Wings that are interested in him.

For the Red Wings, J.T. Compher is the most obvious candidate. Two years left at a $5.1m cap hit and a 10-NTC. His numbers have declined significantly since signing with them (48p, 32p, and 28p) despite remaining healthy. He can masquerade as a centre but is really a winger.

Red Wings have less draft picks but more prospects. There's obviously Marco Kasper and Nate Danielson but they have other interesting prospects as well. Zeev Buium's brother is in their system as well.

Marco Kasper is also brother of Marco Rossi.

 

[VanJack]

Scandinavians: they like Canada. Especially Vancouver. Even EP doesn't want to leave.

Everybody just assumes that because the Canucks 'suck' right now, everybody wants out. But what if they don't?

Marcus Pettersson's agent has completely obliterated the rumor that he wants out of the Vancouver. Apparently he loves the city and likes the direction of the team.

Even with DeBrusk, all we have is the 'rumor mill' that he can't wait to blow town. But what if he wants to stay as well? And despite all the craziness he's been immersed in with Canucks, even Elias Pettersson has said he wants to be a Canuck.

And of course last summer, everybody was lamenting the end of Brock Boeser's career in VanCity--until he signed a new, long-deal out of the blue. And it was the same with Demko and Lankinen, even Garland before he reluctantly accepted a trade to Columbus.

So what kind of lens do you look at this through? You can argue that it's a 'country-club' atmosphere in VanCity and nobody wants to leave. Or you can argue that these players really are committed to the Canucks and want to put last season behind them and be part of a better future.

Frankly, in terms of human nature I like to think positively. These guys are all competitors and want to win. If they're committed to the Canucks--that's a 'good thing' right?

 

[Vector]

Marco Kasper is also brother of Marco Rossi.

False. Marco Rossi is the brother of Milo Rossi, otherwise known as youtuber Miniminuteman.

 

[Lindgren]

Everybody just assumes that because the Canucks 'suck' right now, everybody wants out. But what if they don't?

Marcus Pettersson's agent has completely obliterated the rumor that he wants out of the Vancouver. Apparently he loves the city and likes the direction of the team.

Even with DeBrusk, all we have is the 'rumor mill' that he can't wait to blow town. But what if he wants to stay as well? And despite all the craziness he's been immersed in with Canucks, even Elias Pettersson has said he wants to be a Canuck.

And of course last summer, everybody was lamenting the end of Brock Boeser's career in VanCity--until he signed a new, long-deal out of the blue. And it was the same with Demko and Lankinen, even Garland before he reluctantly accepted a trade to Columbus.

So what kind of lens do you look at this through? You can argue that it's a 'country-club' atmosphere in VanCity and nobody wants to leave. Or you can argue that these players really are committed to the Canucks and want to put last season behind them and be part of a better future.

Frankly, in terms of human nature I like to think positively. These guys are all competitors and want to win. If they're committed to the Canucks--that's a 'good thing' right?

"Everybody just assumes"
"everybody was lamenting"

This is the kind of thing I just referred to in the Raty thread, in response to one of your posts.

When you speak of what "everybody" thinks or says or writes, you're almost always, very obviously, wrong. It's like you don't read the threads. It's ridiculous. Stop!

 

[krutovsdonut]

i thought colton looked good in the playoffs and i am surprised the avs moved him.

 

[Wisp]

Man just wait a year if you're thinking about retaining on Petterson.

 

[Wisp]

Because McFarland likes him and acquired him in the first place.

I suppose they think they can flip him at the deadline for more since everyone needs centers.