It will be a very easy pump/dump for them - Colton will float up into the 40 point range as soon as he's given 15 minutes/game with some PP2 reps.
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It will be a very easy pump/dump for them - Colton will float up into the 40 point range as soon as he's given 15 minutes/game with some PP2 reps.
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Only 1,000%? Why not 10,000%? Sounds like he really doesn't want to be here.
He's barely a centre. I'm not sure they will be able to recoup the two 3rds they traded to get him. It's possible, though. MacFarland is a believer in him and the Predators have an excess in draft picks. Even if they can't recoup the full amount later, it's not a total loss for them.
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I mean, most of us who only cared about the on ice stuff all were huge fans of Petey. Obviously there’s the contingent who hated his social media presence, beginning circa 2019. And the people who hate any player who falls down a lot.
At the end of the day, even though he’s an idiot, he’s a fan of the team. He’s going to have favourites.
I honestly think FA had more of an impact on hockey ops during the post cup stretch of the gillis tenure than he did under Rutherford.
My biggest gripe with ownership since they fired Benning has been the practice facility. Like it’s far and away #1. That, and then also not being a bit more aggressive and ballsy with their GM/President search and starting the process earlier instead of relying on a guy who was leaving. Just some weird (honestly just bad) business management practices.
Yeah Kane was an FA favourite and we know this, so the acquisition was an easy sell. But desperation caused that. We had no assets and could only afford a buy low acquisition. And he loved JT. But at the end of the day, Rutherford was running things.
I don’t even think JR was absurdly incompetent. I just think we were run very average in that timespan and what they came into was such a mess that had rotted because of FA over 15 years and average was never fixing things. Him and PA were “fine”, but yeah, we needed every year to be like that one year heater they had from the Hronek trade up until after the Tdl to be every year.
AND EVEN THEN.. even if they kept running these historic heaters in all four years, it was rotten because JT was a manchild, Pettersson is a mentality midget who didn’t know who lost his interest in the game, and Quit Hughes was always going to leave. And we had no facility and ownership had a rotten stench and everyone who came thru the org still has the stench. And we had no assets so we were always punching from behind.
Anyways it’s just nice to be at a neutral place where we can hopefully get to a place where we aren’t trying to fight from the back for a while.
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If the Bruins want to be aggressive:
EP40 for MItts, 2026 1st + Cooper Simpson
EP40 for MItts, 2026 1st + Cooper Simpson
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Disappointing team could not get in on the Colton trade.
Well known Colton was likely to be moved.
MacFarland hitting up his old team.
Well known Colton was likely to be moved.
MacFarland hitting up his old team.
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Is this sarcasm, or do you actually believe a rebuilding team should trade away multiple 3rd rounders for a 30 year old 3rd line forward?
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I don't want to trade picks.
MacFarland is an idiot.
Maybe he gave them a sweetheart deal because of how he left.
Picks should have been going the other way but this must be the new reality with the cap going up.
Yeah it seems like a costly risk that's counterintuitive to what the Preds should be doing. Satiar Shah speculated this is the Preds trying to have it both ways where they can try to make the playoffs or flip him if it doesn't work...
The problem being the Preds aren't any sort of playoff team I'd aspire to dick around with. Wonder if MacFarland is about to Yzerplan himself.
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If there is a top 10 draft class to trade back in picking up more draft capital it’s this one. You could easily get as good a prospect if not better picking 10th overall vs 3rd overall. It’s one of those drafts.
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I agree with Cam Robinson.
should trade Hronek now while he is at his peak to max his value and to really show the team is serious about the rebuild
should trade Hronek now while he is at his peak to max his value and to really show the team is serious about the rebuild
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do it Stan! He will truly light a fire under their asses!
do it Stan! He will truly light a fire under their asses!
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The Edmonton Oilers should hire the band from the Titanichttps://lindyssports.com/nhl/the-edmonton-oilers-should-hire-john-tortorella
do it Stan! He will truly light a fire under their asses!
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The heck are the Leafs doing? Chayka is so bad.
While that's fair, and i think a very "relatable" idea of "professionalism" for most people...there is a bit of a difference when it pertains to building the sort of "winning culture" required of a professional sports team at the highest level. The dogged, almost cult-like "buy-in" winning in the top sports leagues requires is on a very different level than like, "ahhh f*** i hate having to deal with Karen from Accounting or Dierks from IT".
Hockey on that level is a hugely collaborate "pack mentality" sort of effort. You absolutely have to have all your horses pulling in the same direction at all times, to get anywhere. You also have to remember that most of these players are pretty emotionally stunted kids who have been the "biggest deal" in their own ponds since they were like ten years old. Who then focus on ~*doing hockey*~ and being the best at it, and almost nothing else from the time they're in middle school. Same way they all have identical answers that everyone gets annoyed by, when it comes to those questions at the combine (favourite meal, favourite videogame, favourite band, etc.). Most of them barely even have real hobbies or interests outside of hockey and family.
Then you take those singularly focused manchildren and make them work together, play together, live together more than half the year, and just generally spend uncomfortable amounts of time around each other and all working at the same time on the same project...there's no like, "going back to your own cubicle to work alone". Except for goalies...but they're f***in' weirdos so whatever.
It's why we as fans, often only have half the picture. The "character" and "intangibles" thing is often dismissed as imaginary or superfluous. But the personnel mix and chemistry is so important. You can see it with actual Cup Winners. There's just a different sort of bond there.
That said...it's all kind of juvenile and silly, and this team has clearly had an unusual proportion of "conflicts" and "issues" with the team chemistry in recent years.
I'm genuinely not sure the Kings have anywhere near the pieces they could add to useless Cody Ceci to come anywhere close to being worth trading Pettersson. No doubt they'd be interested in him because they're medium-to-severe desperate for a Center to replace Kopitar. But i don't see any reason whatsoever to just gift them one.
17th pick in a bum ass draft, a bunch of later darts in the dark picks, a big cap dump like Ceci? That's absolutely pathetic.
Even at his worst and most mopey, Petey is still a solid but overpaid 2-way 2C in a league absolutely starved for guys like that. That alone is worth far more than that sort of garbage package. The cap aspect is more than halfway irrelevant given the number of teams with Scrooge McDuck millions to throw at literally any one of the approximately six worthwhile UFAs this year.
The Wings to me, are the team that actually has the right assets to make a Pettersson deal work. And assuming they do actually move Larkin, they'll have the impetus to pull the trigger on that sort of deal.
The Wings to me, are the place where i could actually see the pieces falling into place to make sense for both sides. Guys like Danielson and Kasper are the perfect centerpiece for a "distressed asset" like Pettersson. They're high end prospects, Centers that we'd desperately need to get back, but with some "risk" of their own involved to counter the $11M problem.
They've also got Compher who is the very obvious cap offset to make it work. He's not a good Center, but they're going to need someone back to at least just fill minutes if they move Pettersson. Could be a Santorelli type guy for a couple years while the team is in the gutter. Copp could work too, but i think the Wings probably prefer to keep him and he'd be less useful as a minute filler here anyway.
They've also got more than just Zeevs broseph of interest, in terms of the additional prospects to tack on.
The real problem with Detroit is that they don't have this year's 1st to include. So you're pushing things down the road with a 2027 1st...but that isn't necessarily a terrible thing if that draft is actually better. Though you're losing a lot of TVM with even just a year deferral now.
Agreed. I don't know about "immense" value...but teams are paying stupid amounts for basically 3Cs these days. A bonafide 2C who has 100pt 1C upside if he gets his head right, that's worth way more than just scraps and cap dumps. That needs a legitimate "centerpiece" coming back. Plus multiple other assets. Obviously going to include the cap dump/offset thing to make it work, but the actual assets are the focal point. They must be there.
They'll easily get more than they "spent" on Ross Colton at the deadline. Expiring UFA with playoff pedigree, C/W versatility, plays a heavier game and gets to the net? Especially with the ability to retain down on an expiring contract for a few months to make him a cheap easy fit for any contender. At the absolute worst, they turn a pair of 3rds into a 2nd. I'd wager they get more than that though.
I thought the Canucks bungled this one earlier in the season and couldn't recover.
The Canucks could have extended Blueger at any time from July 1, 2025. They didn't. Rumours before the trade deadline were that they wanted to trade him. Then when they didn't get offers they thought were appropriate, they said they'd try to sign him to an extension.
My reaction was that was amazingly ... illogical, to use a relatively polite term. Players are people. If you don't try to sign them, they'll feel unwanted and more inclined to see if someone else might actually want them. They could have extended him and still tried to trade him.
Then again, maybe the new management team will either manage to extend him or acquire another suitable player. Blueger isn't at the top of the food chain and it is possible to find players at his level. What will make it harder for the Canucks is the thin ufa group, many teams looking and being an organization that free agents will have near the bottom of their priority list and that players with trade protection won't want to waive to be sent to.
The only place that the Canucks have priority over other teams is the waiver wire. It is very likely that there will be worthwhile players to be picked up at the beginning of the season, but picking the right players isn't easy and picking the wrong ones gets a team up against the 50 contract limit in a hurry.
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