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[TraderJim]

I bet he didn't have a angry manager at his work publicly calling him out for missing games, I mean gym sessions, while he tried to recover from his injuries.

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No rest? He had an entire offseason off. Hell, he took last years playoffs off too.

 

[mriswith]

No rest? He had an entire offseason off. Hell, he took last years playoffs off too.

I think if he had treated it properly in January he wouldn't have had a ruined offseason. Might have even had him at normal for the playoffs last year.

This year mgmt called him out at one point for missing games to injury. One of the more bizarre events even in a bizarre year.

 

[TraderJim]

I think if he had treated it properly in January he wouldn't have had a ruined offseason. Might have even had him at normal for the playoffs last year.

This year mgmt called him out at one point for missing games to injury. One of the more bizarre events even in a bizarre year.

When is it ever Petterson's fault? What does it take for people to stop treating him like a teenager?

He is 26 years old turning 27 at the start of next season.

This is suppose to be his prime years. Instead we are going to nurse him through his prime, paying him top dollar and wish and hope that things suddenly change.

 

[rypper]

Did you have a NMC that kicks in and you were getting paid $11.6 million to carry the offense of an NHL team?

All you people telling everyone how difficult it is to do anything with tendentious and that it takes years to go away, just prove that he needs to be traded.

Will he be healthy next season? He went through an entire offseason and returned EXACTLY the same as he finished the season.

If he has an injury issue of such magnitude, then I don't want to see what he looks like in his 30's with it. Move him now.

 

[TraderJim]

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We'll see what the management does with him. No chance they keep him around before his NMC kicks in.

A lot of you all better be prepared because Rutherford isn't going to keep him around and hope things turn out for him after that kicks in.

 

[rypper]

We'll see what the management does with him. No chance they keep him around before his NMC kicks in.

A lot of you all better be prepared because Rutherford isn't going to keep him around and hope things turn out for him after that kicks in.

Trading him will go down in Canucks history as an all time dumb move.

 

[Wisp]

He's likely still suffering from tendonitis but there's probably also suffering from the fallout of tendonitis and how he treated it over the off season.

Ever noticed how players who hold out during training camp (including when Petey did it) have an outlier bad year that season 98% of the time?

It's because it's hard to get on a moving train. If you're behind, you won't catch up during the season. The season is about maintaining what you gained during the off season.

If he trained around tendonitis during the off season and it left him behind, he won't be catching up this season.
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A lot of people keep saying 'If he's hurt, why does the brain trust keep throwing him under the bus' and I suspect the reason is that they don't agree with how he trained around his tendonitis in the off season. They may even be correct. He may have been discouraged or depressed and not trained himself sufficiently. That's not an excuse, it's a possible explanation and would be why they refuse to provide him with any cover.

It won't be corrected until next year and if it's not as a Canuck we will regret it for 20 years.

this is pretty much what i suspect happened. tbh i feel like too many athletes are left to figure out these things by themselves, especially younger athletes who aren't used to managing the change in routine when their bodies start to rebel as they get older.

I wonder if there's a trainer the Canucks can work with him on with training and treating this particular ailment in the offseason, maybe the trainer comes to Sweden or Petey goes to them.

 

[TraderJim]

Trading him will go down in Canucks history as an all time dumb move.

Having 20+ other players wasting away while the team waits for 1 player to figure his shit out is an all time dumb move.

 

[Wisp]

Having 20+ other players wasting away while the team waits for 1 player to figure his shit out is an all time dumb move.

the guy has become the sin eater for y'all. 20+ players are wasting away because of Petey? lol there is only one Canuck on the roster waiting for his teammates to figure it out and that is Hughes.

You better be prepared for the Canucks to keep Petey. Rutherford already needs to hunt for a replacement for the last top center he had to trade, he's not going to rush to find two. He isn't going to trade him at the bottom of his value, either. If he feels like he has to trade him later, well, a player having an NMC never stopped him trading a player before. When was the last time that happened? hmm...

 

[valkynax]

the guy has become the sin eater for y'all. there is only one Canuck on the roster waiting for his teammates to figure it out and that is Hughes.

You better be prepared for the Canucks to keep Petey. Rutherford already needs to hunt for a replacement for the last top center he had to trade, he's not going to rush to find two. He isn't going to trade him at the bottom of his value, either. If he feels like he has to trade him later, well, a player having an NMC never stopped him trading a player before. When was the last time that happened? hmm...

What would be a REAL dick move is, if Pete just does the minimum to get to the start of his next contract with the NMC, then demands a trade publicly.

 

[TraderJim]

the guy has become the sin eater for y'all. there is only one Canuck on the roster waiting for his teammates to figure it out and that is Hughes.

You better be prepared for the Canucks to keep Petey. Rutherford already needs to hunt for a replacement for the last top center he had to trade, he's not going to rush to find two. He isn't going to trade him at the bottom of his value, either. If he feels like he has to trade him later, well, a player having an NMC never stopped him trading a player before. When was the last time that happened? hmm...

NMC vastly limits the value you get back.

I'm more than happy to wait and see what happens. I'm pretty confident that Rutherford doesn't have the time to wait and see if 1 key player can figure it out while the franchise d-man wastes his Norris calibre talent towards UFA.

 

[DiggerDan]

Really liked this interview with Soucy. He answered some tough questions, took ownership, and sounds like he benefitted from the reset. I for one hope he turns things around and provides the depth we need.

 

[Wisp]

NMC vastly limits the value you get back.

I'm more than happy to wait and see what happens. I'm pretty confident that Rutherford doesn't have the time to wait and see if 1 key player can figure it out while the franchise d-man wastes his Norris calibre talent towards UFA.

this current status quo is going to limit what they can get back far more than an NMC can. They did well enough trading Miller. Suitors are as sus on what's happening with the player as you are, if they're going to acquire him they're going to do it as cheaply as possible.

 

[TraderJim]

this current status quo is going to limit what they can get back far more than an NMC can. They did well enough trading Miller. Suitors are as sus on what's happening with the player as you are, if they're going to acquire him they're going to do it as cheaply as possible.

That's assuming he turns back into a 100 point player.

There is far more concern that he comes out as a 60 point player next year with a complete NMC. Now you have a struggling player with injury history who is underperforming on a 8 year contract with a full NMC.

You completely paint yourself into a corner where you are going to get pennies on the dollars instead of quarters. Wait long enough and you have to send assets to move that contract.

 

[Rotang]

I like it

 

[Hansen]

Steal of a signing for MP 5.5 x 6

 

[Flik]

I like it

Wow! 5.5 is great!

 

[Jerry the great]

He's likely still suffering from tendonitis but there's probably also suffering from the fallout of tendonitis and how he treated it over the off season.

Ever noticed how players who hold out during training camp (including when Petey did it) have an outlier bad year that season 98% of the time?

It's because it's hard to get on a moving train. If you're behind, you won't catch up during the season. The season is about maintaining what you gained during the off season.

If he trained around tendonitis during the off season and it left him behind, he won't be catching up this season.
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A lot of people keep saying 'If he's hurt, why does the brain trust keep throwing him under the bus' and I suspect the reason is that they don't agree with how he trained around his tendonitis in the off season. They may even be correct. He may have been discouraged or depressed and not trained himself sufficiently. That's not an excuse, it's a possible explanation and would be why they refuse to provide him with any cover.

It won't be corrected until next year and if it's not as a Canuck we will regret it for 20 years.

If there was no justification for Alvin and Rutherford to repeatedly throw Pettersson under the bus for his conditioning/preparation, his agent is not publicly confirming his client's desire to stay.

 

[mriswith]

When is it ever Petterson's fault? What does it take for people to stop treating him like a teenager?

He is 26 years old turning 27 at the start of next season.

This is suppose to be his prime years. Instead we are going to nurse him through his prime, paying him top dollar and wish and hope that things suddenly change.

Why do you think that pointing out one thing that isn't his fault means that nothing is his fault?

 

[TraderJim]

Why do you think that pointing out one thing that isn't his fault means that nothing is his fault?

Where did I say it was just 1 thing? I've been arguing about all those excuses everyone's been throwing out. You are correct, there are multiple issues with the player beyond just his potential injury. More evidence that the team needs to re-coop as much value from him as possible in a trade after the season is over and before his NMC kicks in.

 

[Wisp]

Where did I say it was just 1 thing? I've been arguing about all those excuses everyone's been throwing out. You are correct, there are multiple issues with the player beyond just his potential injury. More evidence that the team needs to re-coop as much value from him as possible in a trade after the season is over and before his NMC kicks in.

It must seem like everyone is making excuses to you when you're the guy literally blaming all the team's problem on him lmao. You've made him your sin eater - You literally just said 20 players on the roster are wasting away because of him moments ago.

 

[TraderJim]

It must seem like everyone is making excuses to you when you're the guy literally blaming all the team's problem on him lmao. You've made him your sin eater - You literally said 20 players on the roster are wasting away because of him moments ago.

Yes. The rest of the team are absolutely waiting for Pettersson to figure his game out. That is what the coach, GM, and President have all come out and said. It is those who are denying reality that aren't understanding that.

If calling him a "sin eater" for some fans makes you feel accomplished, then fly at it. It doesn't bother me in the least.

 

[I am toxic]

No rest? He had an entire offseason off. Hell, he took last years playoffs off too.

People  do understand that playing (a strong defensive game) in the playoffs aggravates tendonitis, don't they?

Do people know what aggravates means?

I do. Ask me how I know

 

[TraderJim]

People  do understand that playing (a strong defensive game) in the playoffs aggravates tendonitis, don't they?

Do people know what aggravates means?

I do. Ask me how I know

Training camp and a regular season also aggravates tendonitis too, does it not?

So is Pettersson not making a mistake by playing through it?

Where are all the people frustrated over him playing in this 4 cups tourney or whatever? Why are you not wanting him to rest?

If one offseason didn't clear it up then what makes you all think that another one is going to?

 

[mriswith]

Where did I say it was just 1 thing? I've been arguing about all those excuses everyone's been throwing out. You are correct, there are multiple issues with the player beyond just his potential injury. More evidence that the team needs to re-coop as much value from him as possible in a trade after the season is over and before his NMC kicks in.

Objective, verified chronic injuries that also screwed up his offseason are just excuses?

As for when did you say it was just 1 thing, well, you were replying to me and I only listed one thing.

I get people are frustrated and want to move him because of that. I'm frustrated too, particularly now that the defense is fixed and Demko looked vintage last night, this is a totally different team now.

But personally I wouldn't move him unless his injury was permanent because I don't believe any of the other explanations, including the ways that he is at fault no matter how valid, are reasons to believe he's permanently done as a player after ~400 games of being a ppg player. And I don't think we'd get a 1C back for him.

Teams don't win cups without a 1C so to me it feels like we are cornered into waiting for him to figure it out. Which also makes PA/JR's hyper antagonistic approach to the situation even more stupid.