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[Vector]

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Some Important Off-Season Dates

Buyout Period: June 27th, evening; players without NMCs must be placed on unconditional waivers 24 hours prior (another buyout period opens if a team has a player file for arbitration). This buyout period ends June 30th. 8:00pm.
Team-Elected Arbitration: June 26th, evening
NHL Awards: June 27th
Draft Day 01: June 28th
Draft Day 02: June 29th
Qualifying Offer Date: June 30th
Free Agency Opens: July 1st, 9am PST
Summer Development Camp: July 1st-4th
Player-Elected Arbitration: July 5th
Young Stars Classic Tournament: Sep. 13th-16th

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[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Love to see Motte back on the 4th line, but not sure what he'll cost. Can't overspend on the 4th line.

League minimum his not going to be in demand.

 

[Peen]

I'm not convinced on Guentzal to Canes is happening, he'd be signed by now If he was intent on staying there. Seems like pageantry.

I don’t think this is fair. The offers weren’t up to snuff and that gave him a lot of time to think. If it took carolina that long to reach his number, why wouldn’t he take his time to decide?

 

[Wisp]

Canes clearly using media to apply pressure by saying they've met his ask and making him look unreasonable.

You don't do that when negotiations are going well.

 

[Peen]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806730703477842312

Like this more than the Toffoli rumours. Shorter term.

They need to be careful here because, if things don’t click, your only moveable players are Garland, Boeser, and Soucy.

If you aren’t getting a top target, take the best player who doesn’t need significant protection so that you can pivot

 

[Nick Lang]

I like this option as well.

Hughes-Tanev
Zadorov-Hronek
Soucy-Myers

Where would this rank in terms of top d-cores in the NHL?
Top 10? Top 5?

Pretty strong. I'd conservatively say top 12, but probably top 10. Essentially replacing Cole with Tanev is a big upgrade and we were already 5th best last year in GA, although the forwards had a lot to do with that too. I think Hronek probably ends up playing with Hughes despite Allvin's comments of seeing Hronek run his own pairing. Either way love having Soucy Myers as a 2B/3rd pairing. Awesome depth, and Juulsen, Friedman are terrific as #7/#8.

 

[Vector]

I'm not convinced on Guentzal to Canes is happening, he'd be signed by now If he was intent on staying there.

Maybe he's a later sleeper.

 

[timw33]

Like, I get excited about that level of natural finishing talent and PP talent for Stamkos, but man oh man he is really not driving play or contributing defensively anymore and you'd need his cost to be like 5-6MM at most to allow you to shore up depth elsewhere.

 

[Vector]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806730703477842312

Like this more than the Toffoli rumours. Shorter term.

They need to be careful here because, if things don’t click, your only moveable players are Garland, Boeser, and Soucy.

If you aren’t getting a top target, take the best player who doesn’t need significant protection so that you can pivot

And Soucy has a full NTC.

 

[Peen]

And Soucy has a full NTC.

Forgot. Thought it was partial.

But yeah, furthers my point.

 

[Pacific Canuck]

to be honest, I think I like Marchessault at 4 years more than guentzel at 7, with cap hits being hte same

 

[Vector]

I could be convinced on Marchessault.

 

[Nucker101]

I could be convinced on Marchessault.

Stop wasting his time

 

[Canucks LB]

I am starting to get concerned

 

[bandwagonesque]

to be honest, I think I like Marchessault at 4 years more than guentzel at 7, with cap hits being hte same

I have a hard time ever wanting a player after they do something really, really childish and silly in public, like his Twitter stuff. I get this is probably irrational.

 

[Canucks LB]

If we end up with toffoli, i am going to lose it…

 

[Wisp]

I don’t think this is fair. The offers weren’t up to snuff and that gave him a lot of time to think. If it took carolina that long to reach his number, why wouldn’t he take his time to decide?

I dunno, to me this seems to be a player intent on UFA. Pittsburgh went through this same song and dance in-season and they seem determined to trade him.

 

[krutovsdonut]

stamkos would sure be interesting. i don't think he'd come to a team where he is not guaranteed pp1 though.

 

[Pacific Canuck]

All I know about Marchessault is that he got 42 goals last year, PPG in the playoffs, Conn Smythe winner.....

Is there something I am missing in why he would not be someone we should be looking at?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

All I know about Marchessault is that he got 42 goals last year, PPG in the playoffs, Conn Smythe winner.....

Is there something I am missing in why he would not be someone we should be looking at?

Contract is the only thing but I’ve been harping on this possibility for a while now.

 

[xtra]

Ok my first post in years (stupid Benning and then losing my password)

But assuming Guentzel is signing in Carolina - People are sleeping on Skinner, i get he is soft as butter and not the best defensively but he is a pretty consistent 25-30 goal scorer and will come a heck lot cheaper than others out there. he may even bite on a 1 year 5-6mil deal.

When taking cap, probably length of contract and production into account Skinner should be next on the list.

 

[wonton15]

 

[Canucks LB]

Somebody give me some reassurance on a decent plan if all the big guns are gone?

Because I’m struggling to find a good combination here.

Baring we make some massive trade

 

[Wisp]

nice try austin i know exactly what's in there

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

With Stamkos, I don't see how Seattle just doesn't back up the Brinks truck to him. He's exactly what the team and market needs.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Stamkos: still one of the most productive players in the league and plays a fairly complete game. I would go 7Mx2 with no reservation at all, but he likely wants more or he'd be in Tampa. I think he's a very good alternative to Guentzel and I am surprised more people haven't said so.

Guentzel: he's a win-now move demanding an 8 year deal, I'd kind of be relieved if we were out on him.

Marchessault: I just can't stomach the term it would require. Guentzel is a better move at nearly any AAV.

Toffoli: signing him won't really accomplish anything.

I guess I inadvertently listed these players in my order of preference, and probably the reverse order of the team's ability to sign them.