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[andora]

Or unless a positive return is presented.

Right but improving the nhl team on the ice - fair certainty we arent getting tampa offering their 26 draft class

 

[MS]

Am I in the minority or the majority when I have changed my tune and kinda wanna keep Garland

He's a bottom-6 player making nearly $5 million who has 2 goals in 23 games and doesn't play special teams. You fire him out of a cannon instantly if you can get any sort of positive or neutral return.

I like Garland and if he was making $2 million he'd be a useful fit here, and there's no rush to move him now with Beauvillier gone ... but that money could be invested much, much better for the next two seasons.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

I like the Joshua-Blueger-Garland line a lot. I liked them even more with Suter.

A healthy bottom of 6 of
Joshua-Suter-Garland
Hoglander-Blueger-Lafferty

Would be amazing.

 

[krutovsdonut]

It comes down to...what choice do we have? Spend assets to dump Garland's contract while potentially taking some salary back? And for what? Teams are reluctant to sell off their D unless it's for a major overpayment. You also have the 2024 UFA D class which either comprises of slow aging guys or players that will get overpaid with term.

Garland is still a viable top 9 winger, an NHL, who is unfortunately overpaid...but chipping away at depth is not a good strategy unless you know with certainty that improvements can made in other positions while backfilling the forward spot with a decent NHL capable player.

i'd wait on moving garland for a little while if only to let his points rebound and bump his value. he is somewhat snake bitten this season. with the amount of o-zone possession and scoring chances he generates and the skill he has his point production would not flatter a fourth line plumber. he's been on the ice for 14 goals for and has 2g 5a to show for it which makes him look like a passenger, but those are all primary assists and in reality he's driving play and generating scoring opportunities, while only shooting 4%.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

I like the Joshua-Blueger-Garland line a lot. I liked them even more with Suter.

A healthy bottom of 6 of
Joshua-Suter-Garland
Hoglander-Blueger-Lafferty

Would be amazing.

Yea that Garland/Joshua combo draws a lot of power plays for us and is good on the forecheck, even if they don't score very much, they do contribute.

Apparently Chinahkov is not happy in Columbus. He is a young scoring winger with a heavy shot, on a 800k contract I believe, and should be available for a non-premium pick. Would he be a good fit on the JTM/Boeser line, seeing as PDG has kind of played himself off it? Or maybe replace either Kuz or Miki on EP's wing? Not sure he is a Tocchet-type of player though.

 

[StickShift]

It would all depend of what get sent back. Garland is a significantly better player, but that cap hit on the bottom 6 for a non dominant third
Line shut down Center…. It needs to go.

Moving Garland this season is definitely less of a priority now that they’ve reallocated Pearson’s and Beauvillier’s salaries. Even if they were to trade him now—they’d probably be clamoring to add a two-way middle-six forward like him again at the deadline.

But he’s still an awkward fit into next year’s forward salary allocation. One of Garland, Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, or Boeser probably needs to leave in order for the team to acquire enough cost-efficient depth at forward again. Joshua, Lafferty, Blueger won’t be as affordable and there’s no guarantee they will be back.

IMO the go-forward plan with Garland is probably to give him all the opportunity to succeed this year and see if the off-season market improves next year (again).

 

[timw33]

He's a bottom-6 player making nearly $5 million who has 2 goals in 23 games and doesn't play special teams. You fire him out of a cannon instantly if you can get any sort of positive or neutral return.

I like Garland and if he was making $2 million he'd be a useful fit here, and there's no rush to move him now with Beauvillier gone ... but that money could be invested much, much better for the next two seasons.

Absolutely, we're getting so close to having a cap table where we hardly have any highly inefficient contracts and moving the final two years of Garland would be a huge step towards that goal (along with Myers' contract lapsing).

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Absolutely, we're getting so close to having a cap table where we hardly have any highly inefficient contracts and moving the final two years of Garland would be a huge step towards that goal (along with Myers' contract lapsing).

Just in time for OEL's highly inefficient buyout cap hit!

 

[Vector]

 

[Peter Griffin]

Irwin makes sense if they just want someone to sit in the pressbox.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I like the Joshua-Blueger-Garland line a lot. I liked them even more with Suter.

A healthy bottom of 6 of
Joshua-Suter-Garland
Hoglander-Blueger-Lafferty

Would be amazing.

In a vacuum this looks good but you're locking in PDG as a top 6 forward which is far from ideal.

You can swap PDG out for Garland, that bottom 6 looks more than fine, and you have $4M in cap space to add another weapon to the top 6.

 

[MS]

Irwin makes sense if they just want someone to sit in the pressbox.

Yeah, Hirose should be playing.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

In a vacuum this looks good but you're locking in PDG as a top 6 forward which is far from ideal.

You can swap PDG out for Garland, that bottom 6 looks more than fine, and you have $4M in cap space to add another weapon to the top 6.

Zach Parise or Phil Kessel?

 

[UrbanImpact]

Garland has been fantastic. He is a pain to play against and he drives the line. Production would be gravy but I'm loving the way he plays.

He would be an off-season trade but definitely not now.


Jeff Marek was talking about how the Canucks were very much into Austin Watson in the off-season and thinks the Canucks are looking to add another player like him on the bottom 6, much like adding Sam Lafferty.

I wonder who would be good candidates for that?

Hopefully they dont cost what Tanner Jeanot cost.

 

[Peter Griffin]

In a vacuum this looks good but you're locking in PDG as a top 6 forward which is far from ideal.

You can swap PDG out for Garland, that bottom 6 looks more than fine, and you have $4M in cap space to add another weapon to the top 6.

Unfortunately trading Garland in a similar fashion as Beauvillier is probably a pipe dream.

 

[MS]

Garland has been fantastic. He is a pain to play against and he drives the line. Production would be gravy but I'm loving the way he plays.

He would be an off-season trade but definitely not now.


Jeff Marek was talking about how the Canucks were very much into Austin Watson in the off-season and thinks the Canucks are looking to add another player like him on the bottom 6, much like adding Sam Lafferty.

I wonder who would be good candidates for that?

Hopefully they dont cost what Tanner Jeanot cost.

Brandon Duhaime would be a name to keep an eye on.

Pending UFA, small cap hit, playing for a team well out of the playoff picture currently.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Brandon Duhaime would be a name to keep an eye on.

Pending UFA, small cap hit, playing for a team well out of the playoff picture currently.

This guy...?

Muggiest mugshots ever.

Minnesota is a team that's so subpar but has no rentals to offer. Wow...

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Pettersson, Miller, Boeser, Kuzmenko, Mikheyev are legit top 6 players so having Di Giuseppe there isn't the end of the world.

 

[arttk]

Garland has been fantastic. He is a pain to play against and he drives the line. Production would be gravy but I'm loving the way he plays.

He would be an off-season trade but definitely not now.


Jeff Marek was talking about how the Canucks were very much into Austin Watson in the off-season and thinks the Canucks are looking to add another player like him on the bottom 6, much like adding Sam Lafferty.

I wonder who would be good candidates for that?

Hopefully they dont cost what Tanner Jeanot cost.

production is expected when he makes that much money

 

[LemonSauceD]

Jacob Middleton would be a cheaper alternative than Zadorov and a better target IMO.

I wonder if Minnesota would be interested in a Hartman/Garland+ swap. Hartman is 29 and has a 4M extension for the next 3 years and will also have an NMC that kicks in July 1st. He’d be a perfect third line center/winger and could compliment Joshua and Blueger/Suter. Minnesota has too many NMC’s theyd probably like to move.

Hartman, Middleton, Duhaime for Garland, 2026 conditional 1st (If the Canucks make it to 2nd round of the playoffs, it becomes a 2025 1st), Kudryavtsev, Wolanin, and rights to Truscott.

I’d try hard to trade next years 1st. We’re getting back a 4/5 defenseman and a middle 6 forward while trying to clear the negative contract that is Garland. I’d much rather save our immediate 1st round pick for a top 6/top 4D upgrade, but my trade above would bolster our depth incredibly and make us much harder to play against.

 

[Vector]

-going to look for a defenceman
-have been looking for a defenceman since training camp
-Zadorov and Tanev in Calgary are still on the radar; Flames don't want to move them now that they are winning
-Canucks are pushing on Zadorov
-keeping a close watch on Ethan Bear; communicating with his agent
-Bear is expected to be healthy after Christmas; is 2-3 weeks away from signing
-looking at all defencemen and not just the ones in Calgary
-Canucks 1st round pick is not in-play

 

[Nucker101]

Underrated aspect of Garland's game is his ability to draw penalties. He ranks 36th(and leads the Canucks) in the league amongst regular skaters in penalties drawn per 60 mins at 5v5 since the 21/22 season(min 1000 mins played at 5v5)


Joshua ranks 37th
Pettersson ranks 42nd

Next highest Canuck is Hoglander at 125th


Penalty drawing should be even more valued by the Canucks compared to other teams.

 

[andora]

Brandon Duhaime would be a name to keep an eye on.

Pending UFA, small cap hit, playing for a team well out of the playoff picture currently.

Jacob Middleton would be a cheaper alternative than Zadorov and a better target IMO.

I wonder if Minnesota would be interested in a Hartman/Garland+ swap. Hartman is 29 and has a 4M extension for the next 3 years and will also have an NMC that kicks in July 1st. He’d be a perfect third line center/winger and could compliment Joshua and Blueger/Suter. Minnesota has too many NMC’s theyd probably like to move.

Hartman, Middleton, Duhaime for Garland, 2026 conditional 1st (If the Canucks make it to 2nd round of the playoffs, it becomes a 2025 1st), Kudryavtsev, Wolanin, and rights to Truscott.

I’d try hard to trade next years 1st. We’re getting back a 4/5 defenseman and a middle 6 forward while trying to clear the negative contract that is Garland. I’d much rather save our immediate 1st round pick for a top 6/top 4D upgrade, but my trade above would bolster our depth incredibly and make us much harder to play against.

Yes to both duhaime and of course mr. Middleton

What an interesting proposal I say yes

 

[MS]

Jacob Middleton would be a cheaper alternative than Zadorov and a better target IMO.

I wonder if Minnesota would be interested in a Hartman/Garland+ swap. Hartman is 29 and has a 4M extension for the next 3 years and will also have an NMC that kicks in July 1st. He’d be a perfect third line center/winger and could compliment Joshua and Blueger/Suter. Minnesota has too many NMC’s theyd probably like to move.

Hartman, Middleton, Duhaime for Garland, 2026 conditional 1st (If the Canucks make it to 2nd round of the playoffs, it becomes a 2025 1st), Kudryavtsev, Wolanin, and rights to Truscott.

I’d try hard to trade next years 1st. We’re getting back a 4/5 defenseman and a middle 6 forward while trying to clear the negative contract that is Garland. I’d much rather save our immediate 1st round pick for a top 6/top 4D upgrade, but my trade above would bolster our depth incredibly and make us much harder to play against.

In a Minnesota trade scenario, it's worth noting that Podkolzin was a pick that Judd Brackett apparently pushed very hard for.

Also there are still a few other Brackett picks lingering in the system, although most (Aiden McDonough as an example) wouldn't carry much value.

 

[credulous]

getting rid of beauvillier is good but getting rid of garland would be so much better. beauvillier was a problem that solved itself this offseason. garland is gonna be a problem for two and half more seasons

i like that they cleared cap space but they need to put it to good use now. if they just sign bear and kessel or something i'm gonna be pretty meh on this move