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RobertKron

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THERE'S ONLY ONE POSSIBLE REASON THERE'S TALK OF TRADING ZADOROV AND NOT HUGHES.

I BET YOU DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT, COWARDS
 
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Coffee

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Ah f***, I knew I've been out of the loop lately.

Runs off to do his own research and Google furiously
Ahah I’m just messing around : P

I’m sure you are too, but I want to clarify as I don’t want to cause any commotion
 

theguardianII

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In summary, the poster expresses frustration with the coaching decisions of Tocchet for the Vancouver Canucks, particularly highlighting the treatment of young Russian players like Kuzmenko and Podkolzin.
Coaching. At the end of last year the team was winning. Lines were set with the need for the Horvat replacement on the PP. But 5 of the top 6 pretty much set or planned.
Why fix what wasn't broke?
Two players on a line and then a complementary guy.

Pettersson and Kuzmenko put up
Kuz - 37 gms - 21g - 13 A = 34 points
Petey - 37 gms - 20g - 29 A = 49 points
That is 2/3 rds of a line that scores 1.14 g/gm and 1.14 A/gm

Better than any players regularly playing with Pettersson now. Was this to depress EP's numbers for his next contract? Hell no, they must know the negative effect it would have.
The poster questions why more expensive players with trade requests are supported while a promising sophomore player faces criticism and a loss of confidence. They emphasize the negative impact this may have on the team’s reputation and recruitment of future free agents.
All too true. Remember Benning trying to support those lousy over paid contracts? He said players didn't want to come here, so he had to overpay.
It might not have any effect at all, it doesn't seem to hamper Vegas but then they are very deep at least twice as deep as the Canucks.
The poster also criticizes the media for allegedly downplaying trade rumors involving Canuck Russian players and rewriting the narrative around their desire to leave Vancouver.
The media. Ha. Who are they? Who owns them? Who has licencing rights?
Virtually EVERY main stream media is biased now. ALL of them.

And so many posters are like Lemmings.

You would think with all the new stuff faking stuff posters would be more cynical about believing everything spoon fed them.

Fake news is a real thing now. And it works. But it can be exposed with looking below the surface to depths.

The trade rumours are not being down played, they are in the main media hubs.

The poster criticizes the media for allegedly downplaying trade rumors NOT involving Canuck Russian players. Only the Russians are getting media time.

Why the hell is there not a push to move those players that don't want to be here anymore? Why aren't questions even being asked about them? Buried? Last year Garland required the Canucks to retain around 1.5 to 2 mil to move him, is it still the same? Boeser and his agent could only find teams that wanted sweeteners and retention so no trades. What about now with his new prowess?
Myers was going to be dealt 10 times before the TDL? The team never stated but.
 
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theguardianII

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If I'm not mistaken, Horvat was Canadian, and actually traded. There were also tons of conversations around Boeser and Garland as well, both Americans I think.

So is there some kind of agenda against Canadians, Americans and Russians at play here? 🤔
You proved my point a bit.
Last year is was, "whomever" in rumours, I believe even Kuzmenko.

This year ONLY ALL THE RUSSIANS, none of the others. The ONLY team where this is happening, in the league. Where no other players are that much in the heat where denials are required.
 

andora

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You proved my point a bit.
Last year is was, "whomever" in rumours, I believe even Kuzmenko.

This year ONLY ALL THE RUSSIANS, none of the others. The ONLY team where this is happening, in the league. Where no other players are that much in the heat where denials are required.
who's played worse than them?

my previous question about intent as well
 
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theguardianII

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more, and it is the same as the last one. seriously you are actively eliminating all the other rumors this past year and a half about all the other players?

answer one question (if you can) without typing paragraphs and paragraphs. what is your intent for sharing this opinion?
Eliminating from previous to December 1 to now.

Bullies
 

Coffee

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Coaching. At the end of last year the team was winning. Lines were set with the need for the Horvat replacement on the PP. But 5 of the top 6 pretty much set or planned.
Why fix what wasn't broke?
Two players on a line and then a complementary guy.

Pettersson and Kuzmenko put up
Kuz - 37 gms - 21g - 13 A = 34 points
Petey - 37 gms - 20g - 29 A = 49 points
That is 2/3 rds of a line that scores 1.14 g/gm and 1.14 A/gm

Better than any players regularly playing with Pettersson now. Was this to depress EP's numbers for his next contract? Hell no, they must know the negative effect it would have.

All too true. Remember Benning trying to support those lousy over paid contracts? He said players didn't want to come here, so he had to overpay.
It might not have any effect at all, it doesn't seem to hamper Vegas but then they are very deep at least twice as deep as the Canucks.

The media. Ha. Who are they? Who owns them? Who has licencing rights?
Virtually EVERY main stream media is biased now. ALL of them.

And so many posters are like Lemmings.

You would think with all the new stuff faking stuff posters would be more cynical about believing everything spoon fed them.

Fake news is a real thing now. And it works. But it can be exposed with looking below the surface to depths.

The trade rumours are not being down played, they are in the main media hubs.

The poster criticizes the media for allegedly downplaying trade rumors NOT involving Canuck Russian players. Only the Russians are getting media time.

Why the hell is there not a push to move those players that don't want to be here anymore? Why aren't questions even being asked about them? Buried? Last year Garland required the Canucks to retain around 1.5 to 2 mil to move him, is it still the same? Boeser and his agent could only find teams that wanted sweeteners and retention so no trades. What about now with his new prowess?
Myers was going to be dealt 10 times before the TDL? The team never stated but.
We need to get you on Joe Rogan, dude
 

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You proved my point a bit.
Last year is was, "whomever" in rumours, I believe even Kuzmenko.

This year ONLY ALL THE RUSSIANS, none of the others. The ONLY team where this is happening, in the league. Where no other players are that much in the heat where denials are required.

Aight man, I respectfully disagree. I hope you are enjoying the run we're on and the future for the team because it looks bright. Have a great rest of the afternoon 🤜🤛
 

Nucker101

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Boris Horvatkin (Tocchet knew he wasn’t a fellow Ontario boy, takes one to know one)

Anton Beauvilokov (easier to fake French accent than an English one, look it up)

Etonov Bear (I mean the guy’s last name is Bear, guess which Eastern European country has a ton of bears just walking around in the streets? Checkmate)

Kiril Burrostrov (come on, that moustache isn’t fooling anyone, that’s the oldest trick in the book, I guess he fooled Mike Grier though lol).
 
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rypper

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Can't forget about noted Russian players, Jack Studnicka, Jack Rathbone, and the Russian bear, 5th round pick.
 
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RobertKron

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Pavel Bure, two-time 60 goal scorer not currently on the Canucks' roster. ONLY BECAUSE HE IS RUSSIAN

Edit: I just noticed that he has been run out of the entire league. Has Tocchet got to all of them!?
 

Nucker101

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Tocchet was singing the praises of Nikita Kucherov at the ASG, now why would he do that, you ask?

Not only to throw you off the scent but to fool Tampa Bay into keeping Kuch around or possibly entice a fellow western conference team to trade the farm for him at some point.
 
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rypper

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Tocchet was singing the praises of Nikita Kucherov at the ASG, now why would he do that, you ask?

Not only to throw you off the scent but to fool Tampa Bay into keeping Kuch around or possibly entice a fellow western conference team to trade the farm for him at some point.
Tocchet was going to fool them into trading him to Toronto where he's secretly trying to get the Canucks to trade Zadorov, so he and big media can help them win a cup.
 
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