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[Canucker]

If Jiricek is actually available, I'd definitely be kicking tires and if I had to move one of our top prosects+ to get him, I'd go for it...he fits our window money wise, he can help today and next season and long after.

 

[andora]

Where is Middleton gonna play? He'd be #5 on our LD depth chart.

Nah he would be 2nd imo

 

[Tact]

Am I the only one who wants Guentzel if Pittsburgh doesn’t re-sign him?

Mikheyev, 1st in 25’ (top 15 protected), Raty, Woo, 4th round pick in 25’ for Guentzel 50%

Guentzel - Pettersson - Lindholm
Suter - Miller - Boeser

Pretty good top 6

 

[Bobby9]

I like your roster. Hopefully we can find a cheaper replacement for Garland and bring EP down closer to 11 M.

 

[oceanchild]

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This is what I threw together quickly. Podkolzin may not make the roster, so that's potential money to play with. We can waive PDG or sent Aman down as well.

Of course, the big factor here is whether Lindholm willing to stay in the 7M-ish range. That's a pretty steep drop from his supposed 9M ask from Calgary but there's no chance we sign him at that price. I'm also assuming Pettersson and Hronek don't squeeze every possible cent out of us. I didn't trade Mikheyov, so that could open up options if we find a taker.

And yes, I signed Myers. While I'd prefer to put that money elsewhere. I'm pretty certain they want him back. So long as it's 3M or less, I think we can stomach it. Don't see any scenario we sign Zadorov. At least not if he's chasing 5M+.

All in all, we can afford to pay everyone a little more than what I listed them at but we, ideally, don't have to. If the cap hits are more reasonable, we really only need to let Cole and DeSmith walk. Maybe Lafferty too.

This all assumes a 87.7M cap.

2 of Bluger, Lafferty and Dakota need to be gone and replaced with $1m players and one of MiK/Garland needs to go. The defense needs more high quality players and I think we sign Tanev.

 

[Bobby9]

2 of Bluger, Lafferty and Dakota need to be gone and replaced with $1m players and one of MiK/Garland needs to go. The defense needs more high quality players and I think we sign Tanev.

Mik leaving would be better imo

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Most lines are constructed with set pairs so this looks like the most plausible lineup:

Mikheyev-Pettersson-Lindholm
Suter-Miller-Boeser
Joshua-Blueger-Garland
Hoglander-Aman-Lafferty


Suter would like drop to 4C if the Canucks acquire a top LW who can retrieve the puck.

Maybe Greenway is available but it would be probably better to try Podkolzin with Miller again before sending out any other assets.

Garland's contract is the most inefficient one remaining and if they need the Cap space he could be moved to resign Lindholm, Pettersson and Hronek.

 

[JT Milker]

I like Suter more than Duclair. Do agree that adding another top-6 forward (and a defenceman) should still be on the table.

Ya Suter is better than Duclair, particularly under a coach that will bench you if you don’t buy in defensively.

 

[andora]

Outside of a depth vet i think we are done at forward .. sam carrick please

Then one more defence add depth.. cool if term for next year too

 

[PavelBure10]

Is Podkolzin enough to get Tanev?

 

[kanucks25]

Nah he would be 2nd imo

I find that hard to believe given Soucy's play so far this season.

Cole's had his moments but he's been pretty solid overall, as well.

Zadorov you could probably make a case for.

If you asked me about all 4 players in question before this season, I'd say their impact/role would be pretty similar: 3LD on a good team. That hasn't really changed much in my mind. I don't know if Middleton is enough of an upgrade on any of these guys, if at all, to spend assets on when we have other clear needs like top-6 winger and 2nd pair RD.

 

[TruGr1t]

Outside of a depth vet i think we are done at forward .. sam carrick please

Then one more defence add depth.. cool if term for next year too

I'd still check-in with Philly on Sean Walker/Nick Seeler and Morgan Frost.

 

[andora]

I find that hard to believe given Soucy's play so far this season.

Cole's had his moments but he's been pretty solid overall, as well.

Zadorov you could probably make a case for.

If you asked me about all 4 players in question before this season, I'd say their impact/role would be pretty similar: 3LD on a good team. That hasn't really changed much in my mind. I don't know if Middleton is enough of an upgrade on any of these guys, if at all, to spend assets on when we have other clear needs like top-6 winger and 2nd pair RD.

Soucy has been very good.. middletons mobility edges it for me. I wanted one of these two last year so happy we got one

Middleton is extremely underrated and shockingly unknown

I'd still check-in with Philly on Sean Walker/Nick Seeler and Morgan Frost.

Oh for sure.. and there are about a dozen others i would check in on too personally

Frost looks good

 

[kanucks25]

Is Podkolzin enough to get Tanev?

I'd say Pod still has the general value of a 1st late but it probably really depends on the other team and how they evaluate him.

Calgary might be low on him, therefore value him as more of a 2nd round pick, which probably isn't enough.

Newhook went for picks #31 and #37, I imagine Pod's value can't be that far off.

I will say that when Tanev's name was linked to the trade, I was thinking that someone like Pod would have been included to make it happen.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

We blew pretty much all our trade capital on Lindholm.
We’ve got precious little as far as desirable picks left… our 2025 1st, I guess.
I feel Willander should be pretty much untouchable.
So that leaves just Lekk, EP2, Pod, Raty and Bains from our prospect pool and I really would only be okay with moving Raty and Bains… and I don’t think they’d get much of a return for them right now.
We could move a roster player. But the best candidates are guys like Myers and Mik and their values, without retention, are null at best.
And we have a bit of cap space, which we could weaponize, for what that’s worth.
I think the best we can hope for is a depth pickup, probably on D, but that would be fine by me.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Is Podkolzin enough to get Tanev?

Maybe but I hope not. I am expecting Pods to be more valuable to us than Tanev would be, possibly by the end of this year. I think he is ready for a call up right now.

I want Pods, Willander and Lekkerimaki to be off the table. Preferably EP2 as well. We are going to need some ELC's in the near future.

I live in a fantasy world where we somehow manage to keep all of EP, Hronek, Zadorov and Lindholm. We are going to need some concessions from them, and have to keep our UFA's to minimum raises or we are going to have to let them go. Having 3 - 4 ELC's able to step in will really help.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I don't really see us having the assets to acquire Tanev right now. He's probably worth a 1st and a decent-to-low-end prospect, and we don't really have the 1st to part with.

 

[TruGr1t]

I don't really see us having the assets to acquire Tanev right now. He's probably worth a 1st and a decent-to-low-end prospect, and we don't really have the 1st to part with.

Dhaliwal basically said the Flames wanted another 1st rounder as part of the return for Tanev, so that's likely where the deal fell apart.

 

[Diamonddog01]

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This is what I threw together quickly. Podkolzin may not make the roster, so that's potential money to play with. We can waive PDG or sent Aman down as well.

Of course, the big factor here is whether Lindholm willing to stay in the 7M-ish range. That's a pretty steep drop from his supposed 9M ask from Calgary but there's no chance we sign him at that price. I'm also assuming Pettersson and Hronek don't squeeze every possible cent out of us. I didn't trade Mikheyov, so that could open up options if we find a taker.

And yes, I signed Myers. While I'd prefer to put that money elsewhere. I'm pretty certain they want him back. So long as it's 3M or less, I think we can stomach it. Don't see any scenario we sign Zadorov. At least not if he's chasing 5M+.

All in all, we can afford to pay everyone a little more than what I listed them at but we, ideally, don't have to. If the cap hits are more reasonable, we really only need to let Cole and DeSmith walk. Maybe Lafferty too.

This all assumes a 87.7M cap.

Your amounts for Lafferty, Joshua, Blueger are all way too low imo.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I think we’re done for higher end forwards.

We need to go after some big, meat and potatoes type of guys and push Aman down as our 13th forward.

my guy is Pezzetta but there’s definitely other alternatives like Greenway who you can definitely slot higher up in the line up at say 2LW beside Miller and Boeser and have Suter play 4C.

Perhaps you can trade Mikheyev + for Ryan Hartman? He’s on a $1M contract for the rest of the season before his $4M x 3 kicks in. Could be another target.

You can then do:

Greenway/Pezzetta-Miller-Boeser
Pettersson-Lindholm-Hartman
Joshua-Blueger-Garland
Hoglander-Suter-Lafferty

 

[oceanchild]

Is Podkolzin enough to get Tanev?

I suspect that was the offer, however they may be really high in him. I think the third thst is conditional and Raty should have been enough with that package, but I think Conroy wants to hold up the first as hope for the future.

Your amounts for Lafferty, Joshua, Blueger are all way too low imo.

We won’t be able to afford them. Thankfully we signed Suter for 2 years at a bargin.

 

[Vector]

Over the last two seasons, Allvin has traded away 5 players he had previously acquired (Stillman, Studnicka, Beauvillier, Lazar, and Kuzmenko). Figured it would make sense to compare this with the other GMs who were all brought in around the same time (Davidson in Chicago, Hughes in Montreal, Verbeek in Anaheim, and Grier in San Jose).

Blackhawks:
Corey Perry*, Jack Johnson, & Sam Lafferty

Canadiens:
Casey DeSmith**, Jeff Petry**, & Rem Pitlick

Ducks:
John Klingberg

Sharks:
Steven Lorentz & Scott Harrington

*released from contract
**never played a game, traded before season started

Now this list should grow significantly after this year's trade deadline but I thought it was an interesting snapshot.

 

[Svencouver]

I adore Tanev but I would 1000% understand the desire to not move someone like Podkolzin for him. They’ve put a lot of work into him, and Podkolzin has put in a ton of work for the team, and he’s both cost controlled and young, and exactly the type of player they need to fill in for some of the UFAs up front next season.

Lindholm is a huge ”win now” move, but lets not forget this team is way ahead of schedule. Nothing is guaranteed, and you never know when you’re getting your best look with a core (look at the Bills), but no one expected us to be contending this year. Our window is only just starting. If we want to be a contender for the next 5 years, we need the farm to keep producing value and to keep our best young assets.

 

[Diversification]

I don't really see us having the assets to acquire Tanev right now. He's probably worth a 1st and a decent-to-low-end prospect, and we don't really have the 1st to part with.

I think we're probably going to pick up someone like Lyubushkin for a 3rd or so and then forward depth, either Kessel or a big body for the bottom 6.

 

[Wry n Ginger]

Is it time for a 24-25 Canucks roster thread including who in the minors are capable or likely to replace which UFAs ?

Podz in for Joshua?
Sasson in for Blueger?

Is this year a "go all in" but dont give up the A level prospects? Minor reset next year? 25-26

Willander, Lekki and D'Petey ready for 26'27 ?