Ernie
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Canucks News, Rumours, & Fantasy GM | The Russians are Going!?
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I still don't think Guenztel is going anywhere. The Penguins are 5 points out of a playoff spot with 4 games in hand over over Philly and Detroit. If anything, I could imagine them looking to add.
You don't make a big splash in taking on EK65 and signing Malkin and Letang to term deals only to just trade your best winger when you are near a playoff spot.
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Yea, too me the Guentzel rumours are just media fueled speculation because he’s probably the biggest name UFA out there. If Pittsburgh is battling for a playoff spot they’re more likely to hang onto Jake unless a team offers them a top prospect+.
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Benning's white board doesn't bother me, it's not really that much different than what I would do (albeit in excel) for much less important things so who am I to judge.
That being said the spelling mistakes and probably the content if I really dug in are more bothersome.
That being said the spelling mistakes and probably the content if I really dug in are more bothersome.
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Agreed, but also how this team would look if Green wasn't a hockey terrorist.
The trades were awful, but as bad as the trades were, the pro scouting was made to look even worse by how awful Green was. We saw this version of Hog in his rookie season until Green beat it out of him. Same with Garland. We saw every single player flatline or decline under Green. It's no surprise that every player is playing better with a real coach, although the extent is surprising.
It's like how our drafting is immediately going to look better by default now that we have competent staff in Abbotsford instead of every single promising prospect on a good development curve hitting Abbotsford and evaporating.
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I've been kind of disappointed in how prospect development has gone this season in Abby. Things have turned out the opposite of what I expected, in fact, as I thought we'd see lots of promise and excitement on the farm, while the big club struggled to make the playoffs.
Other than Bains, what legitimate prospect in the AHL has surpassed expectations this season?
I’m certain they’ll trade for at least one veteran RHD to shore up. Someone like a retained Erik Johnson would prove to be invaluable in a long run.
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I have lower back pain just looking at the names written at the bottom of that board. Who even does that?
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They were wise not to wait on Guentzel. Dubas strikes me as a ditherer and there was a real chance that you lose out on everything else trying to seal the deal on him. Have to say, it's nice not to be in the position of NYR, COL and WPG angling for what's left because frankly, it's slim pickings out there.
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Well Podkolzin seems to have re-developed into a legit prospect this season. And Abby really helped Hoglander last season. We don't have a lot of high end prospects down there, the ones with the highest drafted pedigree are Klimovich and Raty. Raty seems to be coming along but is biggest weakness is skating, that isn't something that coaching can "develop". Everybody else are either college UFAs or low picks, those are long shots to begin with so you can't expect Abby to turn many of those into everyday NHL players.
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Pod and Raty are developing well. Can see them getting eased into the lineup the way that Hoglander was. Also like the development of Sasson and Topolilo. The backend is where it's been bleak. Was hoping for more from Hirose, McWard and especially Wolanin and Woo. Although that's given Johanssen an opportunity to shine. But not much to write home about there.
*hides all my spreadsheets detailing my trade targets*
YEAH!
In all seriousness, as we all know, the fundamental problem with the previous regime was they just weren't good at identifying what makes a successful hockey player.
who are we trading for next. i'm horny for more trades
And that it seemed like Jim and John silo'd themselves away in the whiteboard room and didn't let anyone else weigh in once they identified "their guys" on the boad.
Ranking of 9 UFAs and likelihood of being retained this summer:
Lindholm - going to cost $2M more on a long term. Worth keeping a top 6 RHS centre who is very good defensively.
Joshua - love to keep this guy but may be too expensive. There may be teams out there that will open the vault. If so, they have to figure out another solution.
Zadorov - has his issues but I absolutely love this guy. He brings a physical element that changes games. And I don't think he will be that expensive.
Blueger - great with Garland and Joshua. He may be too expensive as a 4C, especially if that line is key to a long playoff run. Garland drives that line. Find a less expensive centre who can do the job. They keep him if the price tag fits in under that cap. The three above are higher priority.
Lafferty - really like what he's done but Bains could potentially fill his shoes for less money.
DeSmith: love to keep him but the extra $1M may be required to retain the above.
Friedman - replacement player. Will be him or another player near league minimum. Team may have Juulsen and an elc as the low salary guys on the roster.
Cole: love to keep him but I see him as one of the casualties of cap reallocation.
Myers- too expensive to retain. Need to allocate the money to players higher in this ranking.
Obviously, all of this depends on the price tags for EP and Hronek. In a perfect world both these guys are signed before July 1st but I'm not holding my breath.
Lindholm - going to cost $2M more on a long term. Worth keeping a top 6 RHS centre who is very good defensively.
Joshua - love to keep this guy but may be too expensive. There may be teams out there that will open the vault. If so, they have to figure out another solution.
Zadorov - has his issues but I absolutely love this guy. He brings a physical element that changes games. And I don't think he will be that expensive.
Blueger - great with Garland and Joshua. He may be too expensive as a 4C, especially if that line is key to a long playoff run. Garland drives that line. Find a less expensive centre who can do the job. They keep him if the price tag fits in under that cap. The three above are higher priority.
Lafferty - really like what he's done but Bains could potentially fill his shoes for less money.
DeSmith: love to keep him but the extra $1M may be required to retain the above.
Friedman - replacement player. Will be him or another player near league minimum. Team may have Juulsen and an elc as the low salary guys on the roster.
Cole: love to keep him but I see him as one of the casualties of cap reallocation.
Myers- too expensive to retain. Need to allocate the money to players higher in this ranking.
Obviously, all of this depends on the price tags for EP and Hronek. In a perfect world both these guys are signed before July 1st but I'm not holding my breath.
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Diamonddog01
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The top players for me, currently, are Blueger and Joshua in that order. Zadorov has been so so, while I suspect he'll be appreciated in the playoffs I'm not really seeing a player I want the team to spend more than say 3.5M per year on.
Lafferty, DeSmith and Cole are all luxuries I don't think the team will be able to re-sign (and the latter two are getting too old anyways). I've said this before but if Myers is ok with a lower AAV (2.75 or whatever) I suspect he'll be back. Not enthused about it but it is what it is.
Lindholm will be the interesting one. I want to see him actually play in a Canucks uniform before forming an opinion one way or the other. But if him and Petterson work well together the team could potentially resign him but would definitely have to trade one of Mikheyev or Garland to make it work.
Next 7 months will be very interesting and it's a great time to be a Canucks fan.
SopelFanThe3rd
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if we decide to extend Lindholm, there is really no need to keep Bluegar. We will have Petey, Miller, Lindholm, Suter, Aman and Raty as our center depth. Maybe we can grab another low cost bet but Bluegar is a luxury.
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Tanev
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Are the 2 guys on my list.
If we some how acquire both I’ll stick my ass cheeks on the glass at Roger’s game 1 of SCF.
Vtrano
Are the 2 guys on my list.
If we some how acquire both I’ll stick my ass cheeks on the glass at Roger’s game 1 of SCF.
I'm not entirely sure how much Blueger is responsible for the amazing success of that third line. Clearly, you are very high on him. I just don't see him as much more than a 4C. He's definitely an NHL level player.
To me that third line is a great example where the sum of the parts is much greater than the individuals. And having Garland, a middle 6 play driver, really works with the chaos creator in Joshua and the motor of Blueger. But at $1.9M and faced with some other difficult cap decisions, Blueger may be too expensive in my view.
The big question is how much of the $9M Myers and Cole money plus the cap increase will be left over once they pay EP and Hronek and take on the increase in OEL buyout. That net sum will be what they have left over to allocate to the UFAs above and beyond (Tanev).
You're absolutely right. The next 7 months will be fun in Canuckland.
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