Rumor: Canucks have High interest in Noah Dobson- THN-Stefan Rosner

[UrbanImpact]

I do.

Dobson is a top pair guy entering his prime and Barzal is 1C that's 27.

EP isn't playing to his AAV and he's been stagnant since the all star break of last season. I don't know what's wrong with him. His GM is unhappy and saying so publicly. His value isn't peak right now and you know this. There are more than a few Vancouver fans that would be relieved to move on from him.

Lekkerimaki is a good, not great prospect. A-/B+ guy.

Willander - he's a big part of the base. He's good. I agree.

So Barzal gets to be sold as a 1C despite all his injury issues and the fact he is playing at 40 point season?

Lol Pettersson has scored 30+ goals the last 3 seasons in a row and have put up 27, 28 goal seasons before that.

If youre calling Barzal a 1c then Pettersson is a Franchise C.


How does one become a great prospect if this only makes Lekkerimaki a good prospect.
Winning WJC MVP, u-18 All Star Team-Tournament leader in points, AHL goal scoring and point leader, Led his SHL team in goals as a 19 yr old.

 

[Warh1ppy]

The Canucks trading a Swede would be like Pegula willingly spending $$ on the Sabres for a quality management team

Ain't gonna happen

 

[biturbo19]

I don’t understand it from the Canucks POV. So much of Dobson’s value comes from being a PP QB, something he won’t do in Vancouver unless they go old school with two dmen on the PP.

The Canucks need puck movers, but this is likely too much of a luxury add. The type of player the Canucks should look for are more similar to Hanafin than Dobson.

Yeah. I don't necessarily think a Hughes-Dobson powerplay would be an issue. I think they're both capable quarterbacks and it would theoretically work just fine having two defencemen on the powerplay, when they're of that caliber PP experts. But it's still also just a huge contract coming to Dobson. Where you'd be paying him like a PP1 QB because that's what he's done to establish his resume...but wouldn't necessarily be getting exactly that sort of "value" out of him by having him quarterback that top powerplay unit alone.

Just feels like a real "luxury" add that you're going to struggle to collect full value on.

 

[Diablo2020]

With some Canuck fans not wanting Keandre Miller because "hughes blocks him" or "he has arb rights" or whatever..

And some not wanting Dobson because "we'd have a logjam" or "he wont play #1 pp" or "rfa cost too much"..

I'd like to go the opposite way.


Give me all the Keandre.

Heck ya I want Noah.

I'll always stan for B.Schneider!

Sign Gavrikov as a UFA even!


Give me Hughes - Schneider
Give me Miller - Dobson
Give me Gavrikov - Hronek
Give me DPetey - Willander

Trade all the overpaid underachieving forwards and lets just rock the sickest defense you can build.

Six 20 minute horses. Just roll the defense lines A, B, C all game.

 

[krutovsdonut]

i don't buy it as a real trade. i don't think dobson is worth his cap hit to the canucks when you factor in how much of his value comes from the pp.

maybe this is a rutherford inspired story intended to tweak the rangers into thinking the canucks have other options than a miller deal to them. lou is probably glad to help mess with the rangers

 

[ole ole]

sorry didn't think the true would hurt that much? Tell me I'm wrong? Lets' look at all these trade postings from Mont fans. How many are always looking to trade players or lower picks to get another, yet another 1st rounder? hmm.

There's a big difference between the 5th OA and trying to acquire a late 1st rd pick. Get real and try staying on the thread topic.

 

[Kegs]

According to The Hockey News Stefan Rosner, per industry sources, the Canucks have targeted Noah Dobson.

Rosner implies that NYI wouldnt be interested in JT Miller but perhaps more so Elias Pettersson.

Rosner's proposal:

1st rnd pick
Dobson
Cszikas
Engvall

for

Pettersson

Report: Canucks have ‘high interest’ in Isles defenceman Noah Dobson

According to The Hockey News' Stefen Rosner, the <a href="https://www....

canucksarmy.com

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-islanders/latest-news/elias-pettersson-vancouver-canucks-trade-new-york-islanders-noah-dobson-lou-lamoriello-patrik-allvin

Over pay? Or am I crazy?

 

[BHD]

Had there been any talk of the Isles shaking things up or are they going to see it through with this group?

 

[Johnsie19]

Miller, Hronek, Hoglander

for

Dobson and Barzal

 

[miscs75]

Had there been any talk of the Isles shaking things up or are they going to see it through with this group?

Gotta check Lou’s telegram first. It was sent by pony express yesterday.

 

[RandV]

I remain highly skeptical of most of this trade talk. But if the Islanders are willing to move Dobson Vancouver might not get a better player straight up and Lou could probably get away sticking with a 1 for 1 offer.

Though it would be best to supplement with other players/trade as I don't know about the Isles defence but Vancouver will only have 1 scoring line.

 

[stats1]

Is it just me or this is a terrible deal for Vancouver. Granted they get Dobson and a first but they then gotta take on a shit ton of basically dead cap and also giving up the best player in the deal… take out Engvall add a lower tier draft pick and it looks better

 

[HFpapi]

Barzal
Dobson

for

Pettersson
Willander
Lekkermaaki

If the Canucks feel their hand is forced in getting rid of EP, Barzal is about as good of a center replacement as you can hope to get. Canucks also massively upgrade their D at the expense of their two top prospects but if you are choosing JT Miller over EP then the clock is ticking to win so why not.

 

[Rowlet]

Barzal
Dobson

for

Pettersson
Willander
Lekkermaaki

Not close for Vancouver

 

[HFpapi]

Not close for Vancouver

I gave my rationale just after you quoted. You mean Vacouver says no?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

TO NYI: Pettersson, Hoglander and Desharnais
TO VAN: Nelson and Dobson

Would Van consider welcoming Bo Horvat bak?

 

[EXTRAS]

I mean.. we have an abundance of wingers on this team and in pipeline and a shortage of actual Centers.. I wouldn't hate that deal.

I'd 100% do the deal. Lets Call up the gm's and get this done.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Dobson would be a huge addition to the Canucks blue line. Would push Hronek down to the #3D spot which he's more suited for. This would be a very solid top 4.

Hughes
Dobson
Hronek
Soucy

 

[Kevin27NYI]

I suppose it depends on why the Canucks are making this trade. If this trade is about resolving the Miller-Pettersson feud, then I see it. It's just that I see this more as a trade looking to push to secure a playoff spot. I don't see Pettersson as part of a potential Dobson trade. And yes, so I would wonder why the Isles would do this. Sellers tend to move veterans and build up their youth

Gotcha, I don't know from Van's side at all but in terms of game breakers; I can't see the Isles being adverse to adding a guy who's two years older. We could also trade Nelson and Palmieri this deadline and retool while adding Pettersson (in this scenario).

 

[Glorydays22]

Late 1st?

Canucks are struggling to stay above the playoff bar. That can very much be a mid 1st pick considering all the turmoil and injuries the team is going through.


but ya Canucks probably might have to add still..

Dobson, Barzal

for

Pettersson
1st
Krudasyev

Nope, not happening.

 

[Konk]

And people wonder why the NYI are a constantly middling team eh?

I mean, to be fair, they don't wonder, it's blatantly obvious why.

Oh, and the same goes for the 'Nucks.

 

[Glorydays22]

Make it a core swap, perhaps. Barzal+Dobson for Pettersson+Hronek.

We are not moving both...sorry.

Not my backyard but from the outside looking in... I stand firm in what I said. Barzal and a 1st (yes with protection).

Not sure why you are so hostile about it. You are out of line now. Reply back with crap or insults and you go to ignore list. Your choice

This is what caused you to go hostile? Not sure why

Not hostile, I just get a kick out of montreal fans thinking everything they have is worth the world in gold. But when another fan from another team trys to defend our players, it's considered taboo and that we over value things.

 

[BKarchitect]

Dobson would be a huge addition to the Canucks blue line. Would push Hronek down to the #3D spot which he's more suited for. This would be a very solid top 4.

Hughes
Dobson
Hronek
Soucy

Given their form this year, I'm not sure Dobson is pushing Hronek anywhere except for PP time.

There's maybe some mega-deal buy-low swap to be had out of Dobson, Barzal and EP with other pieces. But god, none of these guys are covering themselves in glory this year. I guess in some ways that makes some crazy swap-meet deal kinda fair.

No chance in hell I'm adding Willander to any deal if I'm Vancouver though.

 

[Rowlet]

I gave my rationale just after you quoted. You mean Vacouver says no?

Vancouver definitely says no and it's not even remotely close. There is basically no deal where they would give up Willander AND Lekkerimaki on top of Pettersson.

Pettersson doesn't have an NTC until next season, so there is no hand forcing.

 

[Coffee]

I’m interested in Dobson too, doesn’t mean anything. I might be in the minority but if I’m the canucks I’d rather get rid of Petersson than Miller. Millers a dog and pettersson shys away when the games mean the most/ever since he got paid

I don’t buy it , McMo