Rumor: Canucks getting lots of calls on Horvat

[MKGamingByMunish]

What would be asking price for Horvat?

Similar type of previous trade ?

Kent Johnson?

 

[bossram]

Well, what if Miller, Horvat and Boeser turn it around under a different coach? I mean look at Gaudreau and Tkatchuk under sutter.

The Canucks' playoffs chances are already cooked. There's no hope to be found. They'd have to play at like a 110+ point pace to make it. Even if they can "turn it around", that level of play is just far beyond what this roster can produce.

Realistically, this team is not as bad as shown. But their max ceiling is basically a playoff bubble team. It's not good enough and they're going to have a reload with a younger core, vs. doubling down on a team that just isn't what management thinks it is.

 

[Taluss]

What about the two top draft picks by NYR, both off to slow starts, would one be available in a one for one trade?

Highly doubt it

 

[Breakers]

Don’t know why but Horvat is just a big time playoff performer

won OHL playoff MVP and had like 17 goals in 21 games in his draft year. 3 game winners in the OHL finals and game 7

Was good in his first playoffs and was good in his second playoffs and was 4th in goals despite playing like 9 less games than the others in front of him.

 

[bossram]

Vancouver would be dumb to move him unless he wants out and has said that he won't re-sign there. I would love to add him to the Oilers if he became available. He'd be an absolutely elite 3C for us or play 2C if we load up our top line.

The Canucks are going absolutely nowhere during the remainder of Horvat's contract. They're not a contender. Not even close. Re-signing Horvat, at a significant raise, just for the franchise to continue spinning its wheels, is what would actually be stupid. And that's assuming Horvat even wants to re-sign, considering he's been open about his frustration with the organization and not wanting to sit through another losing rebuild. In all likelihood, he just walks to UFA.

They need to trade him and reload. There's no hope with the current cast regardless. From Edmonton, it would cost Holloway++

Could Carolina use Kotka as a piece to get Horvat?

Not much interest in Kotkaniemi at all. I don't think he's very good.

It would have to start with Jarvis. Not a lot of other high-value futures Carolina has available.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

The Canucks are going absolutely nowhere during the remainder of Horvat's contract. They're not a contender. Not even close. Re-signing Horvat, at a significant raise, just for the franchise to continue spinning its wheels, is what would actually be stupid. And that's assuming Horvat even wants to re-sign, considering he's been open about his frustration with the organization and not wanting to sit through another losing rebuild. In all likelihood, he just walks to UFA.

They need to trade him and reload. There's no hope with the current cast regardless. From Edmonton, it would cost Holloway++



Not much interest in Kotkaniemi at all. I don't think he's very good.

It would have to start with Jarvis. Not a lot of other high-value futures Carolina has available.

What are the ++ IYO? That'd be a hefty price to pay for basically a season and a half of a player.

 

[Volica]

Does Jim Benning actually have the authority to trade a core player at the moment?

I'm just asking, I legitimately don't know.

If they’re letting him start this rebuild/retool… yikes.

 

[Kshahdoo]

As a base: to Ottawa Horvat to Vancouver Zub.

Ottawa get a center it needs, Vancouver gets a RD it needs.

 

[bossram]

What are the ++ IYO? That'd be a hefty price to pay for basically a season and a half of a player.

Would do max retention to make it most palatable. Really Carolina would be looking at it from the perspective of 2 playoff runs adding a fringe 1c at $2.75 million.

Jarvis + 2nd or Keane. Something like that.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Would do max retention to make it most palatable. Really Carolina would be looking at it from the perspective of 2 playoff runs adding a fringe 1c at $2.75 million.

Jarvis + 2nd or Keane. Something like that.

Jarvis + Morrow

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Don't hold your breath on Jarvis. Horvat doesn't address a real need for Carolina. Elite scorer? Nope. Top pair RHD? Nope. Power winger to balance out the Finns (Aho and Teravainen)? Nope.

Carolina is good for this year up the middle with Trocheck. Next season is a question mark, but there are potential internal options (Necas making the transition, Kotkaniemi, Suzuki or Drury on the prospect front playing a 3rd wheel role on a line) if he doesn't re-sign. Not worth being proactive about.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

As a base: to Ottawa Horvat to Vancouver Zub.

Ottawa get a center it needs, Vancouver gets a RD it needs.

You’ve got to be kidding me right?

 

[robes1]

Does Jim Benning actually have the authority to trade a core player at the moment?

I'm just asking, I legitimately don't know.

I don't think anyone really knows what's happening, other than the owners are most likely causing all sorts of issues. The organization is like the twilight zone.

 

[lawrence]

Man I would like Horvat on the Sens.

I'm not sure if he will waive to another rebuilding team, although Ottawa is close to his hometown. He was also asked by Mac during the Columbus game and Horvat laughed off the fact about locker room divide.

 

[Kshahdoo]

You’ve got to be kidding me right?

2C for 2-3D, and Zub is even younger, than Horvat. Zub has scored just 4 less points in 3 less games. I'm afraid Ottawa fans won't like the deal, he's their only reliable defensive defenseman. On the other hand you won't get something good without giving something good...

 

[majormajor]

Kent Johnson?

Well CBJ are out.

 

[AHLdepth]

I'm not sure if he will waive to another rebuilding team, although Ottawa is close to his hometown. He was also asked by Mac during the Columbus game and Horvat laughed off the fact about locker room divide.

Nitpicky point but he doesn't have anything to waive

 

[kcunac]

Schneider and 1st is a good basis for a trade. Does NYR have any decent C prospects? Nicks need to take back salary?

 

[McSuper]

Canucks needs are young RD.


picks and prospects wise I'd think its :

1st round
3rd round
Top prospect

Edmonton 1st 2022 + 3rd 2023 + Holloway + Turris + Barrie

Vancouver Horvat + Hamonic

 

[dellzor]

Edmonton 1st 2022 + 3rd 2023 + Holloway + Turris + Barrie

Vancouver Horvat + Hamonic

I don't see how that answers the need for a young RHD

 

[bossram]

Jarvis + Morrow

I'd rather Keane, but I think that is fair.

Don't hold your breath on Jarvis. Horvat doesn't address a real need for Carolina. Elite scorer? Nope. Top pair RHD? Nope. Power winger to balance out the Finns (Aho and Teravainen)? Nope.

Carolina is good for this year up the middle with Trocheck. Next season is a question mark, but there are potential internal options (Necas making the transition, Kotkaniemi, Suzuki or Drury on the prospect front playing a 3rd wheel role on a line) if he doesn't re-sign. Not worth being proactive about.

I also don't think Horvat is the biggest need in Carolina. I was responding to someone who inquired about getting Horvat to Carolina, presumably a Canes fan. But the Canucks can't really afford to trade Horvat for a piece lesser than a Seth Jarvis.

 

[snipes]

What a mess in Vancouver

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Edmonton 1st 2022 + 3rd 2023 + Holloway + Turris + Barrie

Vancouver Horvat + Hamonic

I’d move Miller at 50% instead of Horvat for this and you can take out the 3rd.

 

[Nucker101]

What a mess in Vancouver

Terrible GM, bad coach and a stubborn/dumb owner.

My interest in my favourite team has never been lower.

 

[burstnbloom]

Barf, I made a better offer then this. With Hronek+Zadina+Detroit's 2022 1st round pick and Detroit's 2023 2nd round pick.

this is all we have. dont be mean.