Post-Game Talk: Canucks 2, Flames 4: I </3 Cam Barker

[serge2k]

Ehrhoff pushed the pace of the game and was our best puck rusher by a mile.

Torres was strong on the forecheck, that 3rd line in the playoffs, created a lot of momentum by hitting, spending time in the offensive zone.

Don't forget Salo, Salo was a stabilizing player on the defense, and his point shot on the PP was lethal. Absolutely another weapon we lost.

and our useless coach has failed to adjust to the roster changes.

 

[SillyRabbit]

AV took this team to the Finals, so he must be a good coach.

Craig McTavish took the Oilers to the Finals with an even worse team, so he must be better.

Mike Keenan took the Panthers and the Canucks to the Stanley Cup Finals, so he must be even better than both.

As you can see, the argument that AV must be good because he took the team to the Finals is illogical.

 

[Crows*]

So we all want to replace av with ruff? A guy who made one final and has had basically no success recently

 

[Barney Gumble]

Don't forget Salo, Salo was a stabilizing player on the defense, and his point shot on the PP was lethal. Absolutely another weapon we lost.

As long as he was in the lineup. Like having a healthy Kesler....

 

[ahmon]

Except that the team really shouldn't have a 1 line offense. They have solid forward depth, even with Kesler out.

Funny you bring this up when the depth guys had 2 goals tonight.


The team would have a cup if not for injuries.

I don't have a problem with the depth guys. I always said we have enough bottom 6 forwards to make 2 teams.

I don't think we have enough high end forwards.

And to say we would have won a cup, who knows?

 

[Tiranis]

Salo was anything but a stabilizing player his last season here. He couldn't keep up with Bowness' system and the impact it was having on his body anymore.

Garrison has been a clear upgrade on Salo over the last 10 games. There's a reason he's currently +7 despite taking a while to adjust to our style of play.

I don't have a problem with the depth guys. I always said we have enough bottom 6 forwards to make 2 teams.

I don't think we have enough high end forwards.

And to say we would have won a cup, who knows?

How many high-end guys can a team afford? Sedin, Sedin, Kesler and Burrows are 4 high-end forwards. Burrows, every single year, is one of the top ES scorers in the league. That's not just on the Sedins, he did it even when Samuelsson was playing on the Sedin line for huge chunks of the season. Outside of Chicago, there aren't many teams with more high-end forwards who are actually comparable or better.

 

[luongo321]

Just saw Dan Murphy's tweet.

Dan Murphy ‏@sportsnetmurph
AV was hot after the game. Said he stood on the bench and yelled "that's an elbow" and got whistled. No swearing and no previous warning.

Screwjob by the refs on that AV call. Pathetic. I rip on AV all of the time, but that's not a penalty for what he said. Screw these biased refs. Even with this team playing at 10-11 form we will be hard-pressed to win a cup with the hate that the refs have for this team. I hate to say it, but I do believe some refs hold a grudge against this team for Burrows calling out Auger.

 

[serge2k]

AV took this team to the Finals, so he must be a good coach.

Craig McTavish took the Oilers to the Finals with an even worse team, so he must be better.

Mike Keenan took the Panthers and the Canucks to the Stanley Cup Finals, so he must be even better than both.

As you can see, the argument that AV must be good because he took the team to the Finals is illogical.

Nope, straight to the basement. Missed playoffs first year then fired.

Florida he missed the plyaoffs twice then "resigned"

 

[Hammer79]

1. You can blame the D and the forwards and say they played bad, etc, but the fact is they OUTPLAYED their opposition.

2. Luongo wasn't good enough for the team to win Despite They Outplayed their opposition.

3. What do I expect out of Luongo? Don't get badly outplayed by a rookie goaltender at the other end.

End of story.

Only the first goal was on Luongo. Schneider has been committing gaffes and letting weak goals go past him all season, while Luongo had been solid all season up until the Detroit game. This whole argument is so ridiculous, like CDC forums level ridiculous. Even if Schneider played tonight and was completely on his game, he still lets in 2 of those goals, and maybe not made some of the nice saves Luongo came up with. Goaltending was not the reason they lost tonight.

The Canucks simply ran out of gas in the 3rd on a back-to-back with travel and lost. They controlled play early, but as the game wore on they were back on their heels, especially in the third.

 

[BeardedCanuck]

1. I strongly disagree that our forwards and defensemen outplayed the opposition, defensemen in particular. Our defense was absolutely atrocious tonight.

2. Actually yes, Luongo was good enough for the Canucks to win. I don't understand how you come to that conclusion.

3. How was he badly outplayed by a rookie goaltender? Did Taylor stop 50 shots while Luongo only 10?

Canucks outshoot the flames 31-25 yes not a great amount but they were the better team. Two flukey goals from the Flames one of them was Luongo's fault I don't blame the game purely on him but he didn't win the game for us and one of the goals was purely his fault. So yes he shares a large portion of the blame.

 

[deadinthewater]

Just saw Dan Murphy's tweet.

Screwjob by the refs on that AV call. Pathetic. I rip on AV all of the time, but that's not a penalty for what he said. Screw these biased refs. Even with this team playing at 10-11 form we will be hard-pressed to win a cup with the hate that the refs have for this team. I hate to say it, but I do believe some refs hold a grudge against this team for Burrows calling out Auger.

Is this his tweet, or your thoughts?

 

[LadyJet26]

Firing AV half-way through the season isn't the right move, IF we fire him, it's in the offseason.

Giving Bowness the job or bringing in another coach (even if it's Ruff) is not the right move, changing our style of play half-way through the season won't help us come playoff time.

I agree, AV needs to do a better job of getting the team going, but firing him when we're 3rd in the conference isn't right.

It helped Pittsburgh in 2009 when they weren't even in the playoffs when their coach was fired. They had no systems under Therrien either.

 

[solitary]

Keenan took the Rangers to the finals in 94 and beat the Canucks.

 

[ahmon]

As long as he was in the lineup. Like having a healthy Kesler....

well I made countless posts before the cup run, how we should decrease Kesler's workload. I mentioned Kesler's body will evenutally breakdown.

But idiot AV continues to ride him and beat him like a rented mule.

 

[deadinthewater]

It helped Pittsburgh in 2009 when they weren't even in the playoffs when their coach was fired. They had no systems under Therrien either.

Well at least they knew how to play defense under Therrien.

 

[serge2k]

Loss is a bit more worth it (assuming you blame travel) reading this

Jannik Hansen happy last night's flight was cancelled. His wife went into labour when he got home and then gave birth to twins

 

[Angry Little Elf]

Keenan took the Rangers to the finals in 94 and beat the Canucks.

That rangers team was pretty stacked, too.

 

[LadyJet26]

AV took this team to the Finals, so he must be a good coach.

Craig McTavish took the Oilers to the Finals with an even worse team, so he must be better.

Mike Keenan took the Panthers and the Canucks to the Stanley Cup Finals, so he must be even better than both.

As you can see, the argument that AV must be good because he took the team to the Finals is illogical.

Keenan won the cup with the Rangers and took the Blackhawks to the cup finals. He's been to the dance more then once. So much fail in that post.

 

[BeardedCanuck]

Well at least they knew how to play defense.

Dosen't help that we have a coach currently who dosen't know how to deal with his players that includes defense.

 

[Barney Gumble]

well I made countless posts before the cup run, how we should decrease Kesler's workload. I mentioned Kesler's body will evenutally breakdown.

But idiot AV continues to ride him and beat him like a rented mule.

You're preaching to the choir (me) my friend.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Just saw Dan Murphy's tweet.

Screwjob by the refs on that AV call. Pathetic. I rip on AV all of the time, but that's not a penalty for what he said. Screw these biased refs. Even with this team playing at 10-11 form we will be hard-pressed to win a cup with the hate that the refs have for this team. I hate to say it, but I do believe some refs hold a grudge against this team for Burrows calling out Auger.

Wow, complete screwjob if that's the case.

 

[serge2k]

Is this his tweet, or your thoughts?

I'm guessing this is the tweet he is talking about

AV was hot after the game. Said he stood on the bench and yelled "that's an elbow" and got whistled. No swearing and no previous warning.

and

Couple of #canucks have confirmed that's all AV said. Shouldn't have been whistled for a bench minor for that. Soft call.

 

[Crows*]

Wow.... " that's an elbow" that's all av said...

What a joke. Take the fine

 

[luongo321]

Is this his tweet, or your thoughts?

I'd lol so hard if that is what Dan Murphy said. Sorry, I wasn't being very clear.

Here is what Dan Murphy said:

Dan Murphy ‏@sportsnetmurph
AV was hot after the game. Said he stood on the bench and yelled "that's an elbow" and got whistled. No swearing and no previous warning.

 

[Addison Rae]

So we all want to replace av with ruff? A guy who made one final and has had basically no success recently

That's the way we ***** coaching now. Ruff hasn't coached a team nearly as talented as the Canucks are this year.