ChesterNimitz
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I have growing doubts that Leonard will even be available at 5OA so our ‘disagreement’ may well be moot.
Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS
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...if the "Tkatchuk" fever has hit that bad, that's great news for us...
Andrei79
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I don't like that comparison, personally. Matthew Tkachuk is a pretty brilliant player offensively and always has been. He's an amazing puck distributor on top of everything else. He's also a 100 point scorer which I don't think Leonard can be.
It took him 6 years in the league to become the Tkachuk you're describing.
He was not the Tkachuk we see today when he was 18 years old... I don't see why Leonard couldn't get there eventually, he definitely has all the tools necessary IMO.
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NTDP season ticket holder here. You are correct. Leonard played a total of 57 games last season. That total includes games versus NCAA, USHL and international teams. The way stats lines for the NTDP are listed on some websites can be confusing (and sometimes incorrect). The best place to get NTDP player stats like this is directly from the NTDP website.
U.S. National Under-18 Team - 2022-23 Regular Season - Roster - #9 - Ryan Leonard - F
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Somehow this supposed Russophobia didn't stop them from drafting Romanov...
You didn't spend a lot of time on those rebuttals either apparently...
Carlsson has his warts also apparently.
He's viewed as this big two-way center but he mainly played wing lately...
Some scouts out there doubt his ability to be an effective 2way center in the NHL.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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There is absolutely no way Leonard is picked between 2-4. That would be enough to fire a GM on the spot
26Mats
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If Grier prefers Leonard to Smith, I could see it happening.
We don't know anything for sure, but it seems highly probable it goes Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson.
After that, Grier could go Smith, Leonard, or Michkov. Hughes could also take from the two of those 3 that are left, or Reinbacher, Benson, or Dvorsky...
Less than a week to find out reality, and leave speculation behind.
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Do you have the future ball or something?
It'll take at least 5 years to figure something out.
not quite yoda
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So if HuGo finds Michkov too risky, would swapping 5 for 6 and also 31 for 12 sound lik a good plab B?
At A draft then LA GM Dean Lombardi (while he was building a future Stanley Cup champion team) said: "When you choose to move down, the important thing is (that) you still get your guy when your turn comes up".
At A draft then LA GM Dean Lombardi (while he was building a future Stanley Cup champion team) said: "When you choose to move down, the important thing is (that) you still get your guy when your turn comes up".
And you actually watched a lot of games of Tkachuck when he was 17/18 years old?
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Demidov is a HAB
No one thought Tkachuk would score 100 points in his draft year. If they did, he would have gone 2nd or 3rd overall.
Sorinth
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Not that I think the proposed trade is realistic/likely but the point of trading down is to improve that 2nd 1st round pick 12th vs 31st is a big difference. The point of trading up is to secure the guy you really really want.
It requires the team trading down to think there are a bunch of equal prospects, and the team trading up to think that there is 1 guy who is above the rest.
HabbyGuy
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The fact that despite so many mysteries which still surround Michkov, that every single one of Mackenzie's scouts still have him in the top 5. Including ranges as high as 2, should speak volumes about the certainty he'd be the BPA, and how dumb it would be to pass.
And it only validates what the Michkov camp has been preaching in here forever.
And it only validates what the Michkov camp has been preaching in here forever.
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How come you can't see that all this flash Michkov is pulling off against mediocre opposition will not necessarily make him the next Gretzky?
HabbyGuy
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Who called him Gretzky? I called him the BPA at 5 if available. Nice deflection.
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