Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault)

[shaner82]

Well, first of all, they were paid by Hockey Canada. That, from the start, makes them non neutral. A lawyer representing someone in Court (or otherwise) isn't neutral. A law office making an "investigation" isn't neutral either.

Also, who these lawyers were/are. It's an office that's basically specializing in defending claims all along the spectrum of sex violence.

So what should Hockey Canada have done? Obviously they can't hire a company to investigate as that automatically makes that company biased. Forwarding the allegations to the police wasn't enough. Should they have fought the girl in court?

Everyone complains but no one has said what they should have done differently

 

[MXD]

So your saying the lawyers need to work for free, so they appear neutral. Ya like a lawyer will do that.

... Even a pro bono lawyer isn't neutral. The Law Office here defends its clients first and foremost. It's not an arbitrator. And it's also not in its interests to adopt a rose-teinted glasses approach to the situation either.

 

[MXD]

So what should Hockey Canada have done? Obviously they can't hire a company to investigate as that automatically makes that company biased. Forwarding the allegations to the police wasn't enough. Should they have fought the girl in court?

Everyone complains but no one has said what they should have done differently

I'll be honest : I don't quite know what they should've done specifically, other than being quite a bit more proactive about the issue (and since a longer time than 2018).

It's also not my job. Though, I guess, if I would receive an adequate compensation, I'd probably give a longer thought about it.

 

[shaner82]

I'll be honest : I don't quite know what they should've done specifically, other than being quite a bit more proactive about the issue (and since a longer time than 2018).

It's also not my job. Though, I guess, if I would receive an adequate compensation, I'd probably give a longer thought about it.

Being proactive how? By telling boys not to rape girls? Is that really a message we need hockey Canada teaching people? If my son ever needs someone else to tell him not to rape girls, than I have completely failed as a parent.

Why is hockey Canada responsible for the off ice actions of players? If I commit a crime tonight, is my boss responsible? Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

 

[MXD]

Being proactive how? By telling boys not to rape girls? Is that really a message we need hockey Canada teaching people? If my son ever needs someone else to tell him not to rape girls, than I have completely failed as a parent.

... It may not have been a bad idea, considering, you know, events. And the fact there were staff members whose job description includes settling such claims/complaints.

 

[DTR]

 

[Static]

This will happen until there are eight players left.

 

[MXD]

This will happen until there are eight players left.

... Or should happen.

 

[PostBradMalone]

This will happen until there are eight players left.

Really it’s just two we have to hear from (or not) if you catch my drift…

 

[Warden of the North]

Have the big guns at Sportsnet/TSN said anything signficant about this yet?

Westhead obviously is. Im talking about Dreger, Friedman etc

 

[hockey20000]

hope more players like mete release statements..

Not going to see it leak as the names are protected under NDA and supposedly were never mentioned at all to begin with anyways.

with todays media i wouldnt be surprised if names get revealed eventually lol

 

[didimentionlarseller]

Being proactive how? By telling boys not to rape girls? Is that really a message we need hockey Canada teaching people? If my son ever needs someone else to tell him not to rape girls, than I have completely failed as a parent.

Why is hockey Canada responsible for the off ice actions of players? If I commit a crime tonight, is my boss responsible? Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

HC actually paid money to the victim to try and suppress this whole event - that is evil to put it mildly. Why did agents of HC insert the agency into this situation and do that to protect a group of rapists who had just gang raped a drunk woman?

If you commit a crime will your boss show up at the crime scene with some cleaning supplies and clean up after you?

If you son commits rape while acting as part of a team sporting tournament and the organizers try to cover it up you have failed as a parent and the tournament organizers have assumed some criminal/financial liability as well

 

[Voight]

HC actually paid money to the victim to try and suppress this whole even - that is evil to put it mildly

Why did agents of HC insert the agency into this situation and do that to protect a group of rapists who had just gang raped a drunk woman? HC found out this happened and decided to help by finding a suitcase full of money (wonder how they filed that in the orgs taxes this sounds like money laundering to be fair).

Your questions are actually really easy to answer

If you commit a crime will your boss show up at the crime scene with some cleaning supplies and clean up after you?

If you son commits rape while acting as part of a team sporting tournament and the organizers try to cover it up you have failed as a parent and the tournament organizers have assumed some criminal/financial liability as well

I disagree with this. She didn't have to accept the money.

They did what any big organization would do and offered a claimant money to settle the case and keep it out of the news. News at 11.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

I disagree with this. She didn't have to accept the money.

They did what any big organization would do and offered a claimant money to settle the case and keep it out of the news. News at 11.

I think the case resurfacing is indication that the victim is deciding to reject the money HC offered her and proceed to do what she should have done at the start and now she will take a piece of HC also - im going to guess her lawyers will present evidence of HC guiding the victim into accepting the settlement against interest and without a lawyer representing her properly

just put the word evil into that sentence

"They did what any big EVIL organization would do and offered a claimant money to settle the case and keep it out of the news. News at 11."

 

[shaner82]

HC actually paid money to the victim to try and suppress this whole event - that is evil to put it mildly. Why did agents of HC insert the agency into this situation and do that to protect a group of rapists who had just gang raped a drunk woman?

If you commit a crime will your boss show up at the crime scene with some cleaning supplies and clean up after you?

If you son commits rape while acting as part of a team sporting tournament and the organizers try to cover it up you have failed as a parent and the tournament organizers have assumed some criminal/financial liability as well

You have no clue how the court system works. She sued hockey Canada. They settled out of court, which is very typical in civil cases They didn't pay her to be quiet.

The alternative would have been to fight her in court, which is what the Blackhawks did and got roasted for. There's no other options. Either settle or fight her in court.

Did someone from hockey Canada show up with cleaning supplies to clean up the scene? If not you're talking out of your ass.

Did hockey Canada report it to the police? If so (they did by the way) then how the hell did they try to cover it up? You don't cover something up by going to the police.

But tell me genius, how did they cover it up? List facts

 

[Umingmak]

My concern here is how this will impact young players & youth hockey if it drags out for a while. Hockey Canada supports so many youth leagues & teams, and I don’t want to see talented young kids having their enjoyment of the game or potential hurt by this whole scandal.

 

[sennysensen]

Here is what we don't know... There are 2-7 Team Canada players involved. And 1-6 CHL players not on the World Jr team, likely London Knights. So if there are 8 remaining Team Canada players, it still doesn't tell us if there were 2 Team Canada Players, or 7, or somewhere in between.
If anyone on my team is involved, I want them cut immediately. They can go to the KHL, then disappear.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

You have no clue how the court system works. She sued hockey Canada. They settled out of court, which is very typical in civil cases They didn't pay her to be quiet.

The alternative would have been to fight her in court, which is what the Blackhawks did and got roasted for. There's no other options. Either settle or fight her in court.

Did someone from hockey Canada show up with cleaning supplies to clean up the scene? If not you're talking out of your ass.

Did hockey Canada report it to the police? If so (they did by the way) then how the hell did they try to cover it up? You don't cover something up by going to the police.

But tell me genius, how did they cover it up? List facts

I think we will find out more stuff that happened with HC in this situation - this is coming up again for a reason after a settlement its just an opinion not sure why you would be mad at me for it

I answered your questions correctly - your boss won't show up to clean your crime scene and you will be a bad parent if you kid rapes someone at a hockey tournament? I assumed those were rhetorical

I think the victim reported it to the police and they probably went to HC to start the coverup? I have no idea

 

[red devil]

More Sponsors are now withdrawing

 

[frederixx]

Does anyone have the list of the sponsors that still support HC?

 

[Static]

You have no clue how the court system works. She sued hockey Canada. They settled out of court, which is very typical in civil cases They didn't pay her to be quiet.

The alternative would have been to fight her in court, which is what the Blackhawks did and got roasted for. There's no other options. Either settle or fight her in court.

Did someone from hockey Canada show up with cleaning supplies to clean up the scene? If not you're talking out of your ass.

Did hockey Canada report it to the police? If so (they did by the way) then how the hell did they try to cover it up? You don't cover something up by going to the police.

But tell me genius, how did they cover it up? List facts

Hockey Canada did nothing to investigate the accusation on their own, that was extreme negligence on their part. This wasn't a slap on the wrist type case, we are talking about a gang rape.

After they settled they did nothing, (obviously) hoping it would go away forever.

 

[red devil]

Does anyone have the list of the sponsors that still support HC?

They have different level of sponsorships from premier, international, national and licensing partners.

I'm on mobile and you can click on the 3 lines on the top left and find the list from dach category.

Hockey Canada Partnerships

Learn about all level of Hockey Canada corporate partners, including premier, international, national, licensing and official suppliers.

www.hockeycanada.ca

 

[Static]

People need to understand that the victim not wanting to move forward with a police investigation is what was best for HER at that time. That does absolve or remove the need for Hockey Canada to investigate the situation on its own.

 

[Cas]

Being proactive how? By telling boys not to rape girls? Is that really a message we need hockey Canada teaching people?

Apparently it is.

Why is hockey Canada responsible for the off ice actions of players? If I commit a crime tonight, is my boss responsible?

Are you a teenager and is your boss also basically your primary influence over your life and development as a human being?

Also, yes, your employer can be held responsible for your actions off the clock, under certain circumstances (like business trips). That's always been true.

 

[frederixx]

They have different level of sponsorships from premier, international, national and licensing partners.

I'm on mobile and you can click on the 3 lines on the top left and find the list from dach category.

Hockey Canada Partnerships

Learn about all level of Hockey Canada corporate partners, including premier, international, national, licensing and official suppliers.

www.hockeycanada.ca

Unfortunately, we don't see the companies that have suspended their sponsorship with HC