Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault)

[pcruz]

I think it's completely fair. They want to assure no public funding went to the settlement.

The issue though is, if they're trying to get to the bottom of who the players were it seems neither the victim or lawyers ever identified the players, including in the lawsuit. The players were named as John Doe's - so unless the players themselves admit to it, I don't know how far an investigation can get unless she agrees to come forward with the names.

I'm obviously not privy to the details of the settlement, but normally they include iron-clad non-disclosure agreements with severe penalties.

A settlement is a means to resolve a dispute with neither side claiming any responsibility and liability.
It is not, in any way, an admission of guilt.
Neither is it absolution.


I'd prefer it if the victim(s) had continued this until the end so that there could be an actual verdict and guilt either confirmed or denied.

 

[Cotton]

What universe do you live in?

Hockey Canada weren't/wasn't thinking of the best interests of the rape victim/survivor when they settled quickly, they settled quickly to minimize any potential fallout to themselves.

That they chose hushing it up and covering their own asses over re-victimizing the survivor - by drawing it out with lawyers over years - isn't "doing right" by anyone, it's just cowardly assholes protecting them and theirs.

Did I say cowardly assholes? I mis-spoke.

I meant to write cowardly assholes who protect rapists. As quickly as they can.

You conveniently left out the important word Alleged from your entire rant. As in Alleged victim, Alleged rapists.

Fact is that her priority was a payday, not to go to the police, or to a hospital, but to a lawyer. So let's put the pitchforks down like we know what's actually happened.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Another example of the terrible culture surrounding hockey

 

[WarriorofTime]

The two most important words in all of this - Plausible Deniability.

As long as you have it, people will always rush to your side if you are bringing value to people's lives (such as being good and stick and puck)

 

[Rabid Ranger]

"Boys." Lol.

 

[Cancuks]

Hockey Canada shouldn't be funded by the taxpayers in the first place. They get enough revenue from World Juniors, TV contracts, merchandise etc etc. No reason why we should be paying for golf tournaments and sexual assault lawsuits.

 

[Transplanted Caper]

 

[PB37]

So will the names be released after the investigation has been done?

 

[BadgerBruce]

Campbell also tweeted that executives from the CHL are being subpoenaed. Keep in mind that the government committee has the authority, should they wish to exercise it, to demand any document, thing or person … and their authority overrides pretty much everything, from privilege to NDAs.

 

[Transplanted Caper]

Campbell also tweeted that executives from the CHL are being subpoenaed. Keep in mind that the government committee has the authority, should they wish to exercise it, to demand any document, thing or person … and their authority overrides pretty much everything, from privilege to NDAs.

Yep. And they're not messing around. If they get dicked around, they should subpoena more HC executives for the week of the WJC.

 

[red devil]

Campbell also tweeted that executives from the CHL are being subpoenaed. Keep in mind that the government committee has the authority, should they wish to exercise it, to demand any document, thing or person … and their authority overrides pretty much everything, from privilege to NDAs.

They are requesting the redacted NDA along with communication between Hockey Canada and the teams and players .

 

[MoneyManny]

It's a disgrace if they used public funding to settle a lawsuit like this. Hockey Canada should want to bring the story out there, not protect some of the players on the team.

 

[Pink Mist]

 

[Golden_Jet]

Not sure if a redacted copy of NDA helps, guess depends what’s redacted. I don’t see the NDA being available for public consumption.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Not sure if a redacted copy of NDA helps, guess depends what’s redacted. I don’t see the NDA being available for public consumption.

names would be redacted

 

[Golden_Jet]

names would be redacted

100% agree with that.

 

[ORRFForever]

You conveniently left out the important word Alleged from your entire rant. As in Alleged victim, Alleged rapists.

Fact is that her priority was a payday, not to go to the police, or to a hospital, but to a lawyer. So let's put the pitchforks down like we know what's actually happened.

Amen. The holier than thou attitude of many posters is stomach turning.

So will the names be released after the investigation has been done?

The players have the presumption of innocence - that seems to bother a lot of posters (not directed at you PB37). If the players can't defend themselves in court, their names should not be released.

If I was a player and my name got leaked, I'd sue the government.

 

[Ezekial]

I'm all for this and think they should be held accountable, every single f***ing one of them.

But if the name of the victim is released at some point due to this it is not okay.

If the victim would have rather taken the settlement and this all went away in order to not be publicly named it would be a travesty for her wishes to not be granted in order for other people to have temporary moment of rejoice for the individuals being named.

 

[Static]

Amen. The holier than thou attitude of many posters is stomach turning.

That is what you find stomach turning?

 

[Static]

This is going to get nasty, as it should.

 

[ORRFForever]

That is what you find stomach turning?

Yes. That among other things.

We have the presumption of innocence in Canada. Seems a lot of posters want that presumption for themselves but not others.

 

[Static]

Yes. That among other things.

We have the presumption of innocence in Canada. Seems a lot of posters want that presumption for themselves but not others.

The presumption of innocence is an important legal factor, but statistically innocence in a sexual assault case is very rare. Its weird that people jump on that right away rather than the other way around when victims are telling the truth so overwhelmingly often.

Maybe sit this one out.

 

[AllDay28]

These threads are always the saddest cause some loser with no future has to take the creeps (in this case 8 of them) side.

Sad, and I hope you don’t have/create daughters, for their sake.

 

[ORRFForever]

The presumption of innocence is an important legal factor, but statistically innocence in a sexual assault case is very rare. Its weird that people jump on that right away rather than the other way around when victims are telling the truth so overwhelmingly often.

I don't care how "rare" it is, we are all innocent until proven guilty - it is the most important legal factor. If you have a problem with it, perhaps Canada (or the U.S.) is not the country for you.

 

[Static]

I don't care how "rare" it is, we are all innocent until proven otherwise - it is the most important legal factor. If you have a problem with that, perhaps Canada (or the U.S.) is not the country for you.

You are missing the point entirely. Society needs to move in the direction of believing victims first and foremost, not whatever bullshit you're selling behind the "innocence" facade.