Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault)

[A1LeafNation]

So far, I think:

Carter Hart
Jake Bean
Kale Clague
Dillon Dube
Boris Katchouk
Max Comtois
Tyler Steenbergen
Drake Batherson
Michael McLeod
Brett Howden
Alex Formenton

...and slowly the list gets smaller.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Anyone putting out a statement and lied.. I don't think they will have a hockey career after. Way too toxic.

 

[99ovr]

Anyone putting out a statement and lied.. I don't think they will have a hockey career after. Way too toxic.

They're probably banking that the list never gets publicized but yeah if they're caught lying.... sheesh that's a pretty big L. Quite frankly I highly doubt the list will be revealed and this will fall on HC but I guess that's what happens when you have influence and $$$

 

[Zippity]

A lot of generic statements from each player’s lawyers

Whatever happened to this London knight guy?

OHL suspends Canadiens draft pick Logan Mailloux indefinitely

Decision comes after defenceman photographed woman engaged in sex act with him in Sweden last year and shared the picture with teammates.

montrealgazette.com

 

[GirardSpinorama]

They're probably banking that the list never gets publicized but yeah if they're caught lying.... sheesh that's a pretty big L. Quite frankly I highly doubt the list will be revealed and this will fall on HC but I guess that's what happens when you have influence and $$$

There's too much public eyes on it to not have the list be made public.

 

[99ovr]

There's too much public eyes on it to not have the list be made public.

Yeah that is true I think if this was swept under the rug, all the players that didn't make a statement and especially HC will be insanely scrutinized.

What do you feel the public reaction would be if the players involved were named but the overall situation was considered "consensual" by court of law? If that were the case, I would imagine the players would be disgraced but I'm not too sure teams would be willing to axe them considering the court considered it legal.

Saw this post on the Senators reddit, does this hold up? Honestly sounds pretty logical.

I hope all players involve take Hockey Canada and the politicians to court for defaming them without evidence and due process.

The London police determined there was no evidence to prosecute. Until there is a criminal prosecution, which there won't be because of the texts and video that were provided by the lawyers that confirm consensual involvement, there is nothing to make a statement about; there is no guilt.

Its starting to sound more and more like the girl's parents were upset that their daughter did something they didn't like.

The ones at fault appear only to be Hockey Canada staff and lawyers who did all this without the players knowledge, not allowing them to defend themselves, and pursuing an out of court settlement before anyone had their say. Hockey Canada seems to have also misinformed various officials along the way because there evidence now suggests that all players involved cooperated with the London police investigation. Additionally the politicians who are focusing on the players actions and not Hockey Canada staff are the issue. The players have had due process stolen from them.

Hockey Canada will not be able to ever change the culture regarding this scenario, like rock star groupies, there have always been puck bunnies. This is puck bunny culture that Hockey Canada has NO control over. If you played hockey, you know this to be true. Its not part of the game, its not even ancillary, its a side effect of culture outside of hockey. And its even wrong to cast that aspect that exists as good or bad, it just is. IF the government like Papa Trudeau asserted government should stay out of the Canadian bedrooms, then Hockey Canada sure as hell has no place in them either - there is nothing Hockey Canada can do about a gang bang involving hockey players and there is nothing they should do. Sure, its gross, disgusting, to me and probably most of you, but not all of you and that's why its not criminal.

 

[Rob Brown]

So far, I think:

Carter Hart
Jake Bean
Kale Clague
Dillon Dube
Boris Katchouk
Max Comtois
Tyler Steenbergen
Drake Batherson
Michael McLeod
Brett Howden
Alex Formenton

Hart was in the group of players who's agent said he wasn't involved. Think a few others here were, too.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Yeah that is true I think if this was swept under the rug, all the players that didn't make a statement and especially HC will be insanely scrutinized.

What do you feel the public reaction would be if the players involved were named but the overall situation was considered "consensual" by court of law? If that were the case, I would imagine the players would be disgraced but I'm not too sure teams would be willing to axe them considering the court considered it legal.

Saw this post on the Senators reddit, does this hold up? Honestly sounds pretty logical.

I hope all players involve take Hockey Canada and the politicians to court for defaming them without evidence and due process.

The London police determined there was no evidence to prosecute. Until there is a criminal prosecution, which there won't be because of the texts and video that were provided by the lawyers that confirm consensual involvement, there is nothing to make a statement about; there is no guilt.

Its starting to sound more and more like the girl's parents were upset that their daughter did something they didn't like.

The ones at fault appear only to be Hockey Canada staff and lawyers who did all this without the players knowledge, not allowing them to defend themselves, and pursuing an out of court settlement before anyone had their say. Hockey Canada seems to have also misinformed various officials along the way because there evidence now suggests that all players involved cooperated with the London police investigation. Additionally the politicians who are focusing on the players actions and not Hockey Canada staff are the issue. The players have had due process stolen from them.

Hockey Canada will not be able to ever change the culture regarding this scenario, like rock star groupies, there have always been puck bunnies. This is puck bunny culture that Hockey Canada has NO control over. If you played hockey, you know this to be true. Its not part of the game, its not even ancillary, its a side effect of culture outside of hockey. And its even wrong to cast that aspect that exists as good or bad, it just is. IF the government like Papa Trudeau asserted government should stay out of the Canadian bedrooms, then Hockey Canada sure as hell has no place in them either - there is nothing Hockey Canada can do about a gang bang involving hockey players and there is nothing they should do. Sure, its gross, disgusting, to me and probably most of you, but not all of you and that's why its not criminal.

If it's ruled consensual, then that settlement better be coming out of the pockets of hockey Canada executives.

 

[PostBradMalone]

So far, I think:

Carter Hart
Jake Bean
Kale Clague
Dillon Dube
Boris Katchouk
Max Comtois
Tyler Steenbergen
Drake Batherson
Michael McLeod
Brett Howden
Alex Formenton

Comtois, Batherson, Formenton, McLeod, and Howden have not replied to any request for comment according to Global News.

There are an additional three players who have given the barest of replies through their agents, none of which are exactly full-throated denials:

-Dube's rep issued a very vague statement about his client being "cleared" of "wrongdoing".
-Katchouk's rep was similarly vague, and said only he "fully cooperated" with the HC investigation.
-Steenbergen's rep flat out said he could "not comment".

What's 5 + 3? Well, you tell me.

 

[OUT HOUSE]

Comtois, Batherson, Formenton, McLeod, and Howden have not replied to any request for comment according to Global News.

There are an additional three players who have given the barest of replies through their agents, none of which are exactly full-throated denials:

-Dube's rep issued a very vague statement about his client being "cleared" of "wrongdoing".
-Katchouk's rep was similarly vague, and said only he "fully cooperated" with the HC investigation.
-Steenbergen's rep flat out said he could "not comment".

What's 5 + 3? Well, you tell me.

Case closed!

 

[MXD]

A lot of generic statements from each player’s lawyers

Whatever happened to this London knight guy?

OHL suspends Canadiens draft pick Logan Mailloux indefinitely

Decision comes after defenceman photographed woman engaged in sex act with him in Sweden last year and shared the picture with teammates.

montrealgazette.com

Being in Sweden, he couldn't benefit from the usual network that protects other young hockey players.

So far, I think:

Carter Hart
Jake Bean
Kale Clague
Dillon Dube
Boris Katchouk
Max Comtois
Tyler Steenbergen
Drake Batherson
Michael McLeod
Brett Howden
Alex Formenton

Kale Clague came out and said he wasn't at the ceremony.

 

[bigdog16]

So what happens if we just see a statement from every single player denying involvement and a list is never made public? Isnt that a scenario that could happen?

 

[Wallet Inspector]

We know that the accused are not limited to the World Junior's team, right? So how many CHL players in total were at the gala?

 

[MXD]

So what happens if we just see a statement from every single player denying involvement and a list is never made public? Isnt that a scenario that could happen?

Well, it could technically happen if HC doesn't waive any privilege.
Also there are difference between statements. Take, say, Katchouk and Mete. It's easy to surmise that one has nothing to do with this story and the other, well, does.

 

[TopG]

Just read the Rick westhead article. Seems like a misunderstanding from both sides. Wouldn’t crucify the kids over it

 

[CanHeDoIt99]

Just read the Rick westhead article. Seems like a misunderstanding from both sides. Wouldn’t crucify the kids over it

what?

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

What kind of impact will this have on the fantasy hockey season?

 

[A1LeafNation]

Hart was in the group of players who's agent said he wasn't involved. Think a few others here were, too.

Hart was in the Wasserman group who gave a vague response.

 

[PostBradMalone]

Just read the Rick westhead article. Seems like a misunderstanding from both sides. Wouldn’t crucify the kids over it

Edit:

 

[A1LeafNation]

What kind of impact will this have on the fantasy hockey season?

Trade/Don't draft, the guys who are on the list.

Just read the Rick westhead article. Seems like a misunderstanding from both sides. Wouldn’t crucify the kids over it

Read it again.

 

[PostBradMalone]

Hart was in the Wasserman group who gave a vague response.

Three of the "Wasserman 6" later personally sent out denials, so I don't think their blanket response is necessarily a smoking gun. It is interesting however to see the differences in how certain agents/agencies and even players have chosen to handle this.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Three of the "Wasserman 6" later personally sent out denials, so I don't think their blanket response is necessarily a smoking gun. It is interesting however to see the differences in how certain agents/agencies and even players have chosen to handle this.

It's not a smoking gun at all. They just haven't said anything to convince the public they weren't part of the 8.

There is a reason why Kyrou Clauge and Raddysh or their reps felt the need to make statements.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Haven’t been following this thread lately. Can someone explain what’s going on now?
Was it consensual? Was it not?
Is this now a just a issue about the leadership of hockey Canada?

 

[Rob Brown]

Hart was in the Wasserman group who gave a vague response.

Just because you think that it's vague doesn't mean that they're guilty.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Just because you think that it's vague doesn't mean that they're guilty.

Not saying they are guilty at all.

They just haven't said anything to convince the public they weren't part of the 8.

There is a reason why Kyrou Clauge and Raddysh or their reps felt the need to make statements.