Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault)

[Tad Mikowsky]

What does 'repeatedly sexually assaulted' mean?

Could be the difference between wanting to hang these kids in the city centre or explaining why what they did was wrong and to not do it again. Why is that lost on most of you?

you strike me as the guy who probably defends guys like Brock Turner.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Looks like we’re gonna find out who they were through process of elimination as all the players who weren’t there that night will release these kind of statements

We are waiting on better response from these guys:

Hart
Bean
Dube
Katchouk
Comtois
Steenbergen
Batherson
McLeod
Howden
Formenton

 

[TopG]

Kind of sickening thread. It’s almost like people are dying for the kids to be guilty

 

[A1LeafNation]

Kind of sickening thread. It’s almost like people are dying for the kids to be guilty

The men who do this kind of shit can rot in hell if what we think happened, happened.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Anyone know when the players are expected to be exposed?

Sens fan here shitting bricks.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Why do you repeatedly call teenagers scumbags and degenerates? What if it was consensual?

Read that again, and other reports:

Hockey Canada, CHL settle lawsuit over alleged sexual assault involving World Junior players

After the victim had sex with a player, he left unannounced and came back with his friends. Seven strange men snuck up in the hotel room to have sex with an isolated girl. She repeatedly told them to stop, she cried. They raped her, spat on her, laughed at her, demeaned her, filmed her, bullied her into pretending on camera that she was OK.

Their lawyers are so desperate, they have contacted the media and the best they could do for a PR operation was to present themselves to journalists without identifying their clients and to share videos showing a confused girl being coerced into saying she was "OK" while alone in a closed room with a large group of physically imposing athletes. And then these lawyers shared text messages sent to the victim by a player telling her she would get in trouble if she collaborated with the police. Wow. They really look like amazing guys, don'T they?

That's the best the lawyers could do. Contemplate that, please. They likely have a mountain of evidence and that was the best they could do to try to present their clients in a good light.

There's also the fact Hockey Canada paid the victim to sweep this under the rug. They sure didn't pay millions for fun, I can tell you that.

Imagine you, or someone you love, going through that. Would it be less of a traumatic experience if the agressors are teenagers? What do you think I should call these guys if not scumbags?

Boys being boys?

 

[TopG]

The men who do this kind of shit can rot in hell if what we think happened, happened.

Key word: think

 

[MXD]

Anyone know when the players are expected to be exposed?

Sens fan here shitting bricks.

Well, they kindof are already...

 

[Some Other Flame]

 

[A1LeafNation]

Key word: think

Hockey Canada admitting what they did, the Prime Minister and government with holding funds, settlements being paid off...

Think is being kind here.

 

[Amadeus]

Could it be related? This is not an accusation but just a guess.

The Ducks did not issue a qualifying offer to Steel on Monday.

Steel tallied six goals and 20 points while averaging 12:19 of ice time through 68 games last season. The 24-year-old forward has scored exactly six goals in each of his first four NHL campaigns. A first-round pick in 2016, Steel hasn't lived up to expectations yet and it appears that Anaheim is ready to move on.

 

[duul]

Read that again, and other reports:

Hockey Canada, CHL settle lawsuit over alleged sexual assault involving World Junior players

After the victim had sex with a player, he left unannounced and came back with his friends. Seven strange men snuck up in the hotel room to have sex with an isolated girl. She repeatedly told them to stop, she cried. They raped her, spat on her, laughed at her, demeaned her, filmed her, bullied her into pretending on camera that she was OK.

Their lawyers are so desperate, they have contacted the media and the best they could do for a PR operation was to present themselves to journalists without identifying their clients and to share videos showing a confused girl being coerced into saying she was "OK" while alone in a closed room with a large group of physically imposing athletes. And then these lawyers shared text messages sent to the victim by a player telling her she would get in trouble if she collaborated with the police. Wow. They really look like amazing guys, don'T they?

That's the best the lawyers could do. Contemplate that, please. They likely have a mountain of evidence and that was the best they could do to try to present their clients in a good light.

There's also the fact Hockey Canada paid the victim to sweep this under the rug. They sure didn't pay millions for fun, I can tell you that.

Imagine you, or someone you love, going through that. Would it be less of a traumatic experience if the agressors are teenagers? What do you think I should call these guys if not scumbags?

Boys being boys?

If the bolded is true then you have a case to be made. I haven't seen a shred of proof that this is the case. Why are you telling me what happened when there's no evidence of this?

 

[Donner]

Dubes made an announcement but it never denied being there. Just that he cooperated with an investigation that found all players not guilty.

I'd bet Dube is one of the 8 from the statement, but they are angling he isn't as guilty as others and maybe was just in the room

 

[MXD]

Could it be related? This is not an accusation but just a guess.

The Ducks did not issue a qualifying offer to Steel on Monday.

Steel tallied six goals and 20 points while averaging 12:19 of ice time through 68 games last season. The 24-year-old forward has scored exactly six goals in each of his first four NHL campaigns. A first-round pick in 2016, Steel hasn't lived up to expectations yet and it appears that Anaheim is ready to move on.

Gerry Johansson just put out something of the "did not engaged in the wrongdoing described" variety" on behalf of Sam Steel.

 

[Korpse]

Gerry Johansson just put out something of the "did not engaged in the wrongdoing described" variety" on behalf of Sam Steel.

We are now picking and choosing which vague statements which we believe becuase there have been too many. What an absolute mess some are making becuase they need answers immediately.

 

[Rob Brown]

We are now picking and choosing which vague statements which we believe becuase there have been too many.

Which is why people need to stop speculating. Way too many people in here subjectively proclaiming which statements are good enough and which aren't.

 

[thaman8765678]

As a Flames fan, do we have to worry about Dube? This is just awful to have happened.

 

[Amadeus]

As a Flames fan, do we have to worry about Dube? This is just awful to have happened.

He's on the list of those that haven't emphatically denied being involved so you never know. But until we know, we should be careful not to finger point.

 

[MXD]

Which is why people need to stop speculating. Way too many people in here subjectively proclaiming which statements are good enough and which aren't.

You're right, in a way.
On the other hand, some of us may have the experience and the expertise to decipher what's written. (or at least come up with a very good guess).

It's pretty easy to distinguish the Mete/Clague/Makar/Kyrou messages (not there) from the Steel message (can mean literally everything) from the Katchouck message (means absolutely nothing)

 

[MXD]

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Anyone who has been in these positions or heard about them through junior hockey through their life will realize there are two sides to every story.

Yes, and I get, from your numerous creepy messages on this thread that for you, the side of the story that matters is the good ol' boys'.

The thing that you don't seem to realize is that, up to a few years ago, we rarely listened to the victims' side. You may not have received the memo but now we do. At least, a lot of us do.

If the bolded is true then you have a case to be made. I haven't seen a shred of proof that this is the case. Why are you telling me what happened when there's no evidence of this?

I'm not the one telling you what happened. She is. And she was heard loud and clear by Hockey Canada, I can tell you that.

And I'm not here to make a case, BTW. I do hope that with enough outrage for what happened and with public support, this thing will go to court so that someone does make the legal case. I'm not holding my breath, though.

 

[CallMeShaft]

You can tell pretty easily which members here are deranged leftist and who isn't. Hint - It's those who don't understand "innocent until proven guilty"

Innocent until proven guilty is for the court of law, not the court of public opinion.

 

[H3ckt1k]

You can tell pretty easily which members here are deranged leftist and who isn't. Hint - It's those who don't understand "innocent until proven guilty"

I think that only matters in the court of law, not in the court of a hockey forum

 

[Korpse]

You're right, in a way.
On the other hand, some of us may have the experience and the expertise to decipher what's written. (or at least come up with a very good guess).

It's pretty easy to distinguish the Mete/Clague/Makar messages (not there) from the Steel message (can mean literally everything) from the Katchouck message (means absolutely nothing)

Sure but how is Dube’s and the group of 6 with the Wasserman Hockey statements any more convincing?

 

[bert]

Kind of sickening thread. It’s almost like people are dying for the kids to be guilty

It's really something to behold. Some serious moral superiority being pushed.