Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault)

[PostBradMalone]

In my opinion this is the most logical solution where everyone wins.

The 8 players involved are still allowed to play hockey but they're forced to pay 25% of their earnings to the victim and 25% to charitable foundations related to SA for the next 6-7 years, thus they will forfeit 50% of their earnings until the age of 30.

So let me get this straight: if someone raped your wife, sister, or daughter, you would be cool with zero jail time if the perp simply gave them 25% of their earnings- and only for like a handful of years? What the actual f***ing f***?

 

[The Kingslayer]

In my opinion this is the most logical solution where everyone wins.

The 8 players involved are still allowed to play hockey but they're forced to pay 25% of their earnings to the victim and 25% to charitable foundations related to SA for the next 6-7 years, thus they will forfeit 50% of their earnings until the age of 30.

If the players are of high calibre, over the span of 6-7 years the victim will receive close to 20m and likewise will the foundations.

This should appease the public as if people truly care about the victim, they would happily be receptive to the idea of her becoming $20m richer and her and her family for the generations to come will never have to work again. If the players are permanently banned, she nor the foundations will receive money that is literally life changing.

I'm sure the players will jump at this opportunity as the alternative is a lifetime ban from the NHL and/or jail time.

This way the teams aren't punished for something they had no part of, the players receive public disgrace everywhere they go, they lose half of their income, the victim is more than set for life.

You should probably delete this one homie.

 

[cyris]

So let me get this straight: if someone raped your wife, sister, or daughter, you would be cool with zero jail time if the perp gave them 25% of their earnings for a handful of years? What the f***ing f***?

I guess gang rape is okay if you pay a fine according to that poster.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

In my opinion this is the most logical solution where everyone wins.

The 8 players involved are still allowed to play hockey but they're forced to pay 25% of their earnings to the victim and 25% to charitable foundations related to SA for the next 6-7 years, thus they will forfeit 50% of their earnings until the age of 30.

If the players are of high calibre, over the span of 6-7 years the victim will receive close to 20m and likewise will the foundations.

This should appease the public as if people truly care about the victim, they would happily be receptive to the idea of her becoming $20m richer and her and her family for the generations to come will never have to work again. If the players are permanently banned, she nor the foundations will receive money that is literally life changing.

I'm sure the players will jump at this opportunity as the alternative is a lifetime ban from the NHL and/or jail time.

This way the teams aren't punished for something they had no part of, the players receive public disgrace everywhere they go, they lose half of their income, the victim is more than set for life.

How much if someone rapes you? Sounds fair? What if they only make 10K a year?

 

[Quinton Byfield]

I guess gang rape is okay if you pay a fine according to that poster.

It went from "have you ever considered that women lie" to "how can we ensure that rapists don't need to face any legal ramifications" in a hurry.

 

[SquidNasty]

In my opinion this is the most logical solution where everyone wins.

The 8 players involved are still allowed to play hockey but they're forced to pay 25% of their earnings to the victim and 25% to charitable foundations related to SA for the next 6-7 years, thus they will forfeit 50% of their earnings until the age of 30.

If the players are of high calibre, over the span of 6-7 years the victim will receive close to 20m and likewise will the foundations.

This should appease the public as if people truly care about the victim, they would happily be receptive to the idea of her becoming $20m richer and her and her family for the generations to come will never have to work again. If the players are permanently banned, she nor the foundations will receive money that is literally life changing.

I'm sure the players will jump at this opportunity as the alternative is a lifetime ban from the NHL and/or jail time.

This way the teams aren't punished for something they had no part of, the players receive public disgrace everywhere they go, they lose half of their income, the victim is more than set for life.

One of the most unhinged takes ever posted on this website

 

[jimmysheva]

As Hockey Canada re-opens alleged sex assault probe, here’s what 2018 players say so far - National | Globalnews.ca

Hockey Canada remains under intense scrutiny for its response to a 2018 allegation of sexual assault against some World Junior championship team players.

globalnews.ca

Based on this, there are exactly 8 players who have not responded to questions.

 

[A1LeafNation]

As Hockey Canada re-opens alleged sex assault probe, here’s what 2018 players say so far - National | Globalnews.ca

Hockey Canada remains under intense scrutiny for its response to a 2018 allegation of sexual assault against some World Junior championship team players.

globalnews.ca

Based on this, there are exactly 8 players who have not responded to questions.

Looks like these are the 8 who haven't publicly responded yet if I read that article correctly.

Batherson
Comtois
Formenton
McCleod
Steel
Steenberger
Thomas
Howden (JP Barry did not respond but denies other client Fabbro's involvement)

 

[PostBradMalone]

Looks like these are the 8 who haven't publicly responded yet.

Batherson
Comtois
Formenton
McCleod
Steel
Steenberger
Thomas
Howden (JP Barry did not respond but denies other client Fabbro's involvement)

Now consider who of those names were members of the local major junior team at the time, and thus had the means and opportunity to invite non-WJC but CHL players back to a hotel room on that night in London.

 

[Korpse]

As Hockey Canada re-opens alleged sex assault probe, here’s what 2018 players say so far - National | Globalnews.ca

Hockey Canada remains under intense scrutiny for its response to a 2018 allegation of sexual assault against some World Junior championship team players.

globalnews.ca

Based on this, there are exactly 8 players who have not responded to questions.

Might mean something, may not. The statements from Wasserman hockey and two other statements don't deny involvement. Just that the players were cleared of any "wrong doing" or that they have cooperated in investigations. Wouldn't the original investigations in 2018 clear those involved of "wrong doing". I'm sure the names will eventually come out, no need to prematurely speculate

 

[A1LeafNation]

Now consider who of those names were members of the local major junior team at the time, and thus had the means and opportunity to invite non-WJC but CHL players back to a hotel room on that night in London.

Well this is the roster of the London Knights in 2017-18

London Knights 2017-18 roster and scoring statistics at hockeydb.com

The roster, scoring and goaltender statistics for the 2017-18 London Knights playing in the OHL.

www.hockeydb.com

 

[Gil Gunderson]

“We act for one of the players referenced in your email inquiry and have consulted with counsel for the other players you reference. All of Global News’ questions will be asked and answered during the pending NHL investigation. That said, none of the players you reference engaged in any wrongdoing, all of the players cooperated fully with the independent London Police Service investigation in 2018, and all players were then cleared of any wrongdoing,” Fenton wrote.

This is pure lawyer-speak and doesn’t deny they were involved in the incident. The whole point of representing a defendant is to convince you there was no legal wrongdoing.

 

[Buck Naked]

Maybe it's possible that women lie. Not saying she is but I don't know what truly happened and neither do any of us

Yes, I'm sure Hockey Canada paid her to not tell her lies.

Idiot.

 

[caymanmew]

Yes, I'm sure Hockey Canada paid her to not tell her lies.

Idiot.

It is actually reasonable to expect people to be paid off in a situation like that. If this was a consensual gang bang that she was threatening to call rape unless she was paid then by not paying her you let her bring the names forward to the public who would crucify the players way before any proper investigation could be done and many would still believe the players guilty even if she later came out and said it was a lie.

That is just the unfortunate reality of our world.

I assume she is telling the truth though and Hockey Canada paid her to shut up because they are an old boys club and many within the organization probably did some raping themselves when they were younger (if they still don't do it now).

 

[WhatTheDuck]

In my opinion this is the most logical solution where everyone wins.

The 8 players involved are still allowed to play hockey but they're forced to pay 25% of their earnings to the victim and 25% to charitable foundations related to SA for the next 6-7 years, thus they will forfeit 50% of their earnings until the age of 30.

If the players are of high calibre, over the span of 6-7 years the victim will receive close to 20m and likewise will the foundations.

This should appease the public as if people truly care about the victim, they would happily be receptive to the idea of her becoming $20m richer and her and her family for the generations to come will never have to work again. If the players are permanently banned, she nor the foundations will receive money that is literally life changing.

I'm sure the players will jump at this opportunity as the alternative is a lifetime ban from the NHL and/or jail time.

This way the teams aren't punished for something they had no part of, the players receive public disgrace everywhere they go, they lose half of their income, the victim is more than set for life.

99 ovr on the cringe scale. This topic clearly goes way above your head, do yourself a favor and stop talking.

 

[Hole in the Condon]

In my opinion this is the most logical solution where everyone wins.

The 8 players involved are still allowed to play hockey but they're forced to pay 25% of their earnings to the victim and 25% to charitable foundations related to SA for the next 6-7 years, thus they will forfeit 50% of their earnings until the age of 30.

If the players are of high calibre, over the span of 6-7 years the victim will receive close to 20m and likewise will the foundations.

This should appease the public as if people truly care about the victim, they would happily be receptive to the idea of her becoming $20m richer and her and her family for the generations to come will never have to work again. If the players are permanently banned, she nor the foundations will receive money that is literally life changing.

I'm sure the players will jump at this opportunity as the alternative is a lifetime ban from the NHL and/or jail time.

This way the teams aren't punished for something they had no part of, the players receive public disgrace everywhere they go, they lose half of their income, the victim is more than set for life.

This is an insanely disconnected thing to say. You're basically attaching a fee to being able to rape someone with impunity. The victim should get that money and the rapists should STILL go to jail. Unreal man.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

In my opinion this is the most logical solution where everyone wins.

The 8 players involved are still allowed to play hockey but they're forced to pay 25% of their earnings to the victim and 25% to charitable foundations related to SA for the next 6-7 years, thus they will forfeit 50% of their earnings until the age of 30.

If the players are of high calibre, over the span of 6-7 years the victim will receive close to 20m and likewise will the foundations.

This should appease the public as if people truly care about the victim, they would happily be receptive to the idea of her becoming $20m richer and her and her family for the generations to come will never have to work again. If the players are permanently banned, she nor the foundations will receive money that is literally life changing.

I'm sure the players will jump at this opportunity as the alternative is a lifetime ban from the NHL and/or jail time.

This way the teams aren't punished for something they had no part of, the players receive public disgrace everywhere they go, they lose half of their income, the victim is more than set for life.

Dear Lord,

You're suggesting that we should put together a "pay some fines, to get away with rape" so the victim is "set for life," and the players can just keep playing hockey.

Brilliant.

Run that one by your mom, see what she thinks.

 

[Voight]

Players would still be ostracized and rightfully so. Admitting to a gang rape is the end of their careers, no chance of redeeming themselves. The public would never accept an admitted rapist on their team.

Their best bet is to deny they were a part of it until a good enough source places them in the room. Then they say it was consensual. Short of their being video evidence, the players involved will never face punishment from the law, rape is far too difficult to prosecute and it has been years at this point making it much less likely.

Lastly, this path forces the victim into the public eye, which will lead her to experience the full toxicity of social media and possibly even real life. As horrible as the gang rape would have been for her, it is something she can work to move on from and become mentally ok again. It is her secret to share with those she is comfortable sharing with. What she will get in the public eye won't end, won't be escapable. It will bring those horrible memories back, it will leave her with new scars that affect her ability to live a normal life far more. She will have money but it won't buy her happiness.

FWIW people still supported Tyson even after he went to jail for rape.

 

[Warden of the North]

If it hasnt already been posted here's a half hour interview with Rick Westhead. Yes, it from Steve Dangle, but it's very informative if you haven't been really paying attention and offers some tidbits if you have been. This is a clip, the full interview is in the links

 

[boredmale]

Looks like these are the 8 who haven't publicly responded yet if I read that article correctly.

Batherson
Comtois
Formenton
McCleod
Steel
Steenberger
Thomas
Howden (JP Barry did not respond but denies other client Fabbro's involvement)

 

[Bevans]

What a black mark on the St Louis organization if they committed to paying Thomas 65 mil right before he was confirmed as a participant. Especially considering it's a preemptive extension that didn't need to be negotiated yet.

They're either very confident he's not involved or very cavalier with the potential blowback.

Meanwhile, Ottawa is rightfully not negotiating with Formenton yet.

 

[ozzie]

At this point if you weren't anywhere close to this, you'd be separating yourself quick from the pack. You'd be making it perfectly clear, with or without throwing your buddies under the bus.

For anyone who just left and was there, that is almost as bad and a lack of common sense. Honestly it might be worse in my book. It's disappointing, but if it's all true, it's terrible. It's a decision by young boys and does not necessarily speak about Hockey culture in general.

Now the clean up and sweeping afterwards by Hockey Canada and Agents, yes. Actually they need to all pay, Agents included.

How many of us played sports and partook in anything like this? Seriously. I hope anyone proven to be involved gets their contracts terminated, jail, ejected for life.

Also good detective work by people in this thread, narrowing it down. Obviously it may not be entirely correct, but a few interesting possible names on that list.

I haven't read everything, but I'd assume there is also a high possibility of an illicit substance being used in conjunction with alcohol.

 

[Bevans]

My final prediction as to what will occur (not advocating or condemning this):

Names will be revealed
No criminal charges
All involved players will take about a year away from hockey, attend rehab.
The stars will be somewhat forgiven
The non nhlers will never play in nhl
1 or 2 of the players will be traded or get sent down.
At least one team will try to have their player(s) play anyway and then back down in face of public pressure Ala Mitchell Miller and the Coyotes.

 

[Canadienna]

For anyone who just left and was there, that is almost as bad and a lack of common sense. Honestly it might be worse in my book.

How in the world could it be worse to have been there and then leave?

I can understand not liking it, and you're right it shows a lack of common sense and perhaps empathy... OTOH you're saying it's as bad or worse than rape.

 

[bert]

That just didn't came out well.

Many victims refuse to participate in police investigations / judicial proceedings in sexual assault cases for a myriad of very good reasons.

I didn't think I should have had to explain this, but considering the amount of shitstains indulging in victim blaming in these threads, I probably should have.

Alot of assumptions stated as fact in the post you quoted. I'd rather get the real story than just assume and point fingers. But hey to each their own. No one condones rape on any level but I also don't have the audacity to paint everyone with the same brush without actually knowing what happened. Some people need to feel morally superior probably because they are insecure about some of their own personality traits or past decisions. The concept that the court of public opinion without a fair trial or testimony outweighing the judicial system is a very slippery slope.

My final prediction as to what will occur (not advocating or condemning this):

Names will be revealed
No criminal charges
All involved players will take about a year away from hockey, attend rehab.
The stars will be somewhat forgiven
The non nhlers will never play in nhl
1 or 2 of the players will be traded or get sent down.
At least one team will try to have their player(s) play anyway and then back down in face of public pressure Ala Mitchell Miller and the Coyotes.

This is exactly the problem with not doing this through a proper trial. These types of results.