Canadian Division (Canada Cup) Part IV

[SamInVan]

God I hope we meet in the playoffs.

This would be awesome. I'm a west coaster ('Nucks fan) that lived in T.O. several years ago and remember bars downtown anytime Leafs and Habs played. It was crazy! Flip a coin for me with slight lean towards blue/white. Cheers.

 

[nobody]

FYI, you may want to audit your own posts:





When you call a player "Top 3 for the Selke" and then tell everyone to "Be prepared when he gets a Selke nomination", you're proclaiming him to be a potential winner.

And by the way, this isn't a Leafs thread. It's about the Canadian division.

"top 3 for Selke", "be prepared when he gets a Selke nomination", I'm proclaiming him to be a potential winner? WHAT? You realize that Selke nomination is finishing in the top 3 right? You know how the NHL awards work right? 1 guy who actually wins the award and 2 other guys who get nominated in the top 3 because they got the 2nd and 3rd highest votes. Unfortunately, the 2nd and 3rd place guys don't get the Selke too or a participation ribbon if that's something that concerns you as well.

Talk about crying for the sake of crying.

 

[voxel]

Barely means he does.

Then McDavid does too...these 20 seconds of PK time per game are really meaningful!

 

[nobody]

Then McDavid does too...these 20 seconds of PK time per game are really meaningful!

McDavid gets 8 seconds per game so sure.

 

[King K Rool]

Matthews can PK and does PK so you're wrong on that but Drai def has been a little bit better than Auston. I won't argue that. Drai isn't TOs franchise C though and TO hype machine doesn't care about anyone out west not named Connor "future Leafs HOFer" McDavid. Draisaitl has been an absolute monster this year though. Very good season so far.

Leafs fans are aware that the "TO hype machine" is a HUGE reason why they haven't won anything since The Beatles released Hey Jude, right?

I'm not making fun here. Your media builds the Leafs to unreasonable expectations. I mean all Canadian NHL cities do this to an extent but it's only the TOR media wondering if the Leafs will lose 10 games this year. This kind of stuff is why the Maple Leafs haven't been a winning organization since the first expansion.

I bet if it wasn't for the "TO hype machine" the Leafs would have at least won a Cup or two since back then.

I mean Leafs fans' biggest wet dream isn't even winning the Cup, it's poaching a player from the Oilers

 

[LeafsNation75]

Leafs fans are aware that the "TO hype machine" is a HUGE reason why they haven't won anything since The Beatles released Hey Jude, right?

I'm not making fun here. Your media builds the Leafs to unreasonable expectations. I mean all Canadian NHL cities do this to an extent but it's only the TOR media wondering if the Leafs will lose 10 games this year. This kind of stuff is why the Maple Leafs haven't been a winning organization since the first expansion.

I bet if it wasn't for the "TO hype machine" the Leafs would have at least won a Cup or two since back then.

I mean Leafs fans' biggest wet dream isn't even winning the Cup, it's poaching a player from the Oilers

I don't think the Toronto media was asking recently asking if the Leafs will lose 10 games this year.

 

[King K Rool]

I don't think the Toronto media was asking recently asking if the Leafs will lose 10 games this year.

It was a standings prediction that had the Leafs losing 8 regulation games. Your media is a total circus, the Tlusty front page for example. I don't think the Montréal media is the same (although their spotlight can be pretty harsh).

 

[LeafsNation75]

It was a standings prediction that had the Leafs losing 8 regulation games. Your media is a total circus, the Tlusty front page for example. I don't think the Montréal media is the same although the spotlight is just as harsh

Believe me I know the Toronto media is a circus and the worst example was Steve Simmonds story about Phil Kessel buying a Hot Dog everyday outside his condo, even though that was proven to be false and he never apologized for writing it when being called out.

 

[nobody]

Leafs fans are aware that the "TO hype machine" is a HUGE reason why they haven't won anything since The Beatles released Hey Jude, right?

I'm not making fun here. Your media builds the Leafs to unreasonable expectations. I mean all Canadian NHL cities do this to an extent but it's only the TOR media wondering if the Leafs will lose 10 games this year. This kind of stuff is why the Maple Leafs haven't been a winning organization since the first expansion.

I bet if it wasn't for the "TO hype machine" the Leafs would have at least won a Cup or two since back then.

I mean Leafs fans' biggest wet dream isn't even winning the Cup, it's poaching a player from the Oilers

There's no one that hates the TO hype machine more than TO fans. In fact, all the hate we get on here and in real life is primarily because of said hype machine that makes us out to be the bad guys. Many of you guys can't see that you hate the TO media and no the actual fanbase.

Our biggest aspiration as any fan base is to win the cup 100%. However, secondary to that goal which is pretty a rare feat even for "top tier" teams, getting McDavid is more attainable. All McDavid has done for the Oilers is play his heart out and all the management has done for him is well, nothing. lol

The Leafs team is young and has a ton of promising talent in Matthews/ Marner/ Willy etc. I don't see any reason why McDavid when given the opportunity would pass up on the chance for playing for the childhood team that he still absolutely adores. We used to think our stars would come home and play for the Leafs but we were delusional because we had nothing to offer in terms of players/ supporting cast. JT coming home was a huge game-changer, I believe. Without Matthews/ Marner/ Willy/ Rielly/ Freddy, we don't see JT even debating being a Leaf, even though he loved the team just as much as McDavid does.

 

[NyQuil]

Many of you guys can't see that you hate the TO media and no the actual fanbase.

I definitely hate the TO media and not the actual fanbase.

They have a good team this year.

 

[LeafsNation75]

There's no one that hates the TO hype machine more than TO fans. In fact, all the hate we get on here and in real life is primarily because of said hype machine that makes us out to be the bad guys. Many of you guys can't see that you hate the TO media and no the actual fanbase.

Among members of the Toronto media the only ones who are admitted Leafs fans is Jeff O'Neil and Brian Hayes. I would say the majority of the others go out of their way to be more critical of the Leafs to show they don't have a bias for them.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I definitely hate the TO media and not the actual fanbase.

They have a good team this year.

We dislike them too.

 

[LeafsNation75]

We dislike them too.

Only in Toronto would someone in the media like Dave Feschuk call James Reimer's mother and ask her if he had a concussion. No wonder Phil Kessel said how he was such an idiot.

 

[RogerR]

I definitely hate the TO media and not the actual fanbase.

They have a good team this year.

Although I never understand why fans of other teams think TO media are big homers of the Leafs. They crap on the team non-stop.

 

[nobody]

I know I am probably going to make a few Oilers fans mad, but if they keep up their schtick, I would bet my house that McDavid is going to come home in 26. There's no way he's passing up on a chance to win in TO while making max $ and playing with Matthews/ Marner. There is literally zero that the Oilers or any other team in the league can offer. Leafs are dumping all their salary in about 4 years' time. Unless they absolutely f*** it up, they should be sitting at a solid $20 mil in cap space atleast. And I for one have no issues giving max contracts to prime Matthews, Marner and McDavid.

 

[RogerR]

Leafs fans are aware that the "TO hype machine" is a HUGE reason why they haven't won anything since The Beatles released Hey Jude, right?

I'm not making fun here. Your media builds the Leafs to unreasonable expectations. I mean all Canadian NHL cities do this to an extent but it's only the TOR media wondering if the Leafs will lose 10 games this year. This kind of stuff is why the Maple Leafs haven't been a winning organization since the first expansion.

I bet if it wasn't for the "TO hype machine" the Leafs would have at least won a Cup or two since back then.

I mean Leafs fans' biggest wet dream isn't even winning the Cup, it's poaching a player from the Oilers

Do people actually follow the Toronto media? It's the most negative by far of any teams' media towards the team. THe media I listen to is afraid to even compliment the team. Where's the hype? What am I missing? The Habs were getting more hype last week by the Toronto media. Chris Johnston, called the Habs a Juggernaught for beating the Canucks.

And no the media is not why the Leafs haven't won a cup. They were owned by the worst owner in sports history for majority of years since 67. That's a massive reason.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Joe Thornton is returning tomorrow to the Maple Leafs lineup.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Do people actually follow the Toronto media? It's the most negative by far of any teams' media towards the team. THe media I listen to is afraid to even compliment the team. Where's the hype? What am I missing? The Habs were getting more hype last week by the Toronto media.

And no the media is not why the Leafs haven't won a cup. They were owned by the worst owner in sports history for majority of years since 67. That's a massive reason.

Here is an example of the Montreal hype from the Toronto media with this tweet from January 28, 2021.

 

[RogerR]

Here is an example of the Montreal hype from the Toronto media with this tweet from January 28, 2021.

It's quite puzzling that people on here keep saying Toronto media overhypes the Leafs. That's B.S. They are easily 7th in terms of being homers for their teams in Canada.
Just non-stop crapping on the Leafs, even when they are 1st overall. I was listening this morning and they were talking about Zack Hyman "Leaving" because of a contract. What? Why not talk about the team on the ice.
The Toronto media has created the complete and hilarious "Cap hell" Leafs myth and spent a year sayinvg everyone is leaving beacuse of offersheets.
It's just complete, non-stop negative crap daily.

 

[King K Rool]

Do people actually follow the Toronto media? It's the most negative by far of any teams' media towards the team. THe media I listen to is afraid to even compliment the team. Where's the hype? What am I missing? The Habs were getting more hype last week by the Toronto media. Chris Johnston, called the Habs a Juggernaught for beating the Canucks.

And no the media is not why the Leafs haven't won a cup. They were owned by the worst owner in sports history for majority of years since 67. That's a massive reason.

True true. I wasn't thinking about Ballard and that is totally my bad because he was by far the worst owner of all time. There's been some truly terrible ownership (Melnyk, Wirtz) over the years but Ballard takes the cake. I've read a lot about him and the things he's done, can't believe I forgot about him. And I can't believe Toronto's attendance never wavered during Ballard's tenure. And those were days when attendance wasn't as important as it is now.

That man was a cruel vile scumbag and I doubt Toronto lamented his passing, sorry to say.

 

[LeafsNation75]

It's quite puzzling that people on here keep saying Toronto media overhypes the Leafs. That's B.S. They are easily 7th in terms of being homers for their teams in Canada.
Just non-stop crapping on the Leafs, even when they are 1st overall. I was listening this morning and they were talking about Zack Hyman "Leaving" because of a contract. What? Why not talk about the team on the ice.
The Toronto media has created the complete and hilarious "Cap hell" Leafs myth and spent a year sayinvg everyone is leaving beacuse of offersheets.
It's just complete, non-stop negative crap daily.

Before July 1, 2019 it was only Darren Dreger who was pushing the offer sheet talk and only about Mitch Marner doing that, which is funny in hindsight because the only player that offseason who signed an offer sheet was Sebastian Aho.

 

[RogerR]

True true. I wasn't thinking about Ballard and that is totally my bad because he was by far the worst owner of all time. There's been some truly terrible ownership (Melnyk, Wirtz) over the years but Ballard takes the cake. I've read a lot about him and the things he's done, can't believe I forgot about him.

The point is, articles won't hurt the Leafs at all. But I do very much believe they are the most negative towards their team in the NHL and I'm confused where this hype idea comes from.
Ballard was just evil. Truly shocking stories about him. It's funny you mentioned the Beatles, beacause in the 60's the Beatles played the Gardens in July and Ballard turned up the Heat and upped the price on drinks (Yes this really happened).

 

[RogerR]

Before July 1, 2019 it was only Darren Dreger who was pushing the offer sheet talk and only about Mitch Marner doing that, which is funny in hindsight because the only player that offseason who signed an offer sheet was Sebastian Aho.

Gord Miler was huge on offersheets as well. He was convinced Marner and Matthews were leaving and claimed he even had bets with other NHL execs over it.
Elliott Friedman reported an NHL exec "Would Bet His House" Lou was stealing Marner away via offersheet. Lou within 2 days took Martin off the Leafs hands to help their cap LOL
The whole thing was odd. Anyone look at the bonuses both are getting? They were acting like the team was broke. That was just some weird fantasy to get attention.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Gord Miler was huge on offersheets as well. He was convinced Marner and Matthews were leaving and claimed he even had bets with other NHL execs over it.
The whole thing was odd. Anyone look at the bonuses both are getting? They were acting like the team was broke. That was just some weird fantasy to get attention.

I remember Dreger specifically would report everyday on Marner's contract negotiations a lot more than any of the other TSN Hockey Insiders or anyone at Sportsnet.

However on the day Marner signed his extension I believe Elliotte Friedman was the first one to report that news and I think Dreger was upset it wasn't him given all the time he spent that summer only focusing on Marner.

 

[RogerR]

Don’t you just hate that when people are proved wrong over and over and don’t acknowledge it! I know I do

I loved that he had the wrong location Kessel lived. Kessel would be walking the entire city to get a hot dog daily. That better have been the best hot dog in history.