Canadian Division (Canada Cup) Part IV

[LeafsNation75]

I said Selke contention. His play has been absolutely stellar and the Toronto media hype machine is definitely going to get him into the top 3 if he keeps this up. Not saying he wins it but he's definitely getting a ton of love. RNH is a good two way guy too, not better than Matthews though, at least not this year. Also, for the record, Matthews has started killing penalties this year. Not a ton but he's on there.

EDIT:
Looking at their stats side by side, RNH has never been better than Matthews defensively, outside of Auston's 3rd season where he was utter trash defensively. Matthews obviously poops all over RNH offensively and in the FO dot and I don't think it's even a conversation.

Matthews can PK and does PK so you're wrong on that but Drai def has been a little bit better than Auston. I won't argue that. Drai isn't TOs franchise C though and TO hype machine doesn't care about anyone out west not named Connor "future Leafs HOFer" McDavid. Draisaitl has been an absolute monster this year though. Very good season so far.

I don't know how much this will matter but on the broadcast Chris Cuthbert said Matthews was in the top 3 of takeaways so far this season.

 

[nobody]

Matthews plays on the PK.

Not according to @Rhaegar Targaryen. His 22 seconds per game means he doesn't "kill" penalties. Even though I'm sure his numbers are a little more than 22 seconds since he only started killing penalties 5-6 (if not a little later) games into the season. But doesn't count because Leafs #1 fan @Rhaegar Targaryen said so.

 

[nobody]

I don't know how much this will matter but on the broadcast Chris Cuthbert said Matthews was in the top 3 of takeaways so far this season.

He's been an absolute monster this year. I'm telling everyone here to be prepared when he gets a Selke nomination. People are going to bitch and moan but the way things are going right now, we're headed that way.

 

[voxel]

Matthews plays on the PK.

According the NHL... barely

NHL Stats

 

[voxel]

Nuge is closest to Bergeron in that he plays top PK minutes on his team (which is 7x more PK time than Matthews does). Draisaitl plays the PK when it is a 5 on 3.

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[nobody]

Nuge is closest to Bergeron in that he plays top PK minutes on his team (which is 7x more PK time than Matthews does). Draisaitl plays the PK when it is a 5 on 3.

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Drai plays 5 on 3 because the rest of your centers are absolute ass on the faceoff dot while Drai is chugging along at 58%. Also, Matthews playing 22 seconds is still PK time, even if "barely". Also, Marner who plays PK for the Leafs has more PK time than RNH and does a hell of a lot better job at preventing goals on the PK than RNH does. So, can it. RNH is not the hill you want to die on when you have the Draisaitl mountain to stand on. In t

 

[LeafsNation75]

According the NHL... barely

NHL Stats

The 4:50 Matthews has played on the penalty kill is a lot more than the 22 seconds per game on the penalty kill which @Rhaegar Targaryen claims Matthews plays.

 

[nobody]

The 4:50 Matthews has played on the penalty kill is a lot more than the 22 seconds per game on the penalty kill which @Rhaegar Targaryen claims Matthews plays.

No unfortunately the Leafs superfan @Rhaegar Targaryen is correct. Matthews PK time averages to 22 seconds per game. However, he hasn't started PKing until recently and I suspect the actual PK time is probably around 40-45 seconds or so. Nothing to write home about but also not nothing.

 

[Dache]

The 4:50 Matthews has played on the penalty kill is a lot more than the 22 seconds per game on the penalty kill which @Rhaegar Targaryen claims Matthews plays.

Umm. Pretty sure 4:50 divided by 14 games is right around 22 seconds per game

 

[LeafsNation75]

Drai plays 5 on 3 because the rest of your centers are absolute ass on the faceoff dot while Drai is chugging along at 58%. Also, Matthews playing 22 seconds is still PK time, even if "barely". Also, Marner who plays PK for the Leafs has more PK time than RNH and does a hell of a lot better job at preventing goals on the PK than RNH does. So, can it. RNH is not the hill you want to die on when you have the Draisaitl mountain to stand on. In t

So far this season Toronto has played 3v5 just two times and both were against Ottawa in each of their first two games against them. So they haven't been in that situation enough to put Matthews on the ice to kill off those penalties.

 

[nobody]

Umm. Pretty sure 4:50 divided by 14 games is right around 22 seconds per game

Math major?

 

[nobody]

So far this season Toronto has played 3v5 just two times and both were against Ottawa in each of their first two games against them. So they haven't been in that situation enough to put Matthews on the ice to kill off those penalties.

I think the poster was just flaunting the fact that the team trusts Drai 5 v 3. But like I said, when none of your other faceoff guys are over 50% and stud PK guy RNH is sitting at a whopping 36% faceoffs success he's not going to beat out the only dude who is over 50% and sitting at a stellar 58% in Drai. Even if Drai was absolute dogshit at killing penalties, he's still going out there. Drai kills 42 seconds per game in PK btw if anyone wants to keep track. Pretty sure Auston is also in that territory when he's actually killed penalties. I'm assuming Drai has been killing PK since game 1 and this isn't something new for him like it is for Auston.

 

[LeafsNation75]

I think the poster was just flaunting the fact that the team trusts Drai 5 v 3. But like I said, when none of your other faceoff guys are over 50% and stud PK guy RNH is sitting at a whopping 36% faceoffs success he's not going to beat out the only dude who is over 50% and sitting at a stellar 58% in Drai. Even if Drai was absolute dogshit at killing penalties, he's still going out there. Drai kills 42 seconds per game in PK btw if anyone wants to keep track. Pretty sure Auston is also in that territory when he's actually killed penalties. I'm assuming Drai has been killing PK since game 1 and this isn't something new for him like it is for Auston.

For all the talk about Matthews time he's played on the penalty kill, his faceoff winning percentage is currently at 52.4%.

NHL Stats | NHL.com

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Not according to @Rhaegar Targaryen. His 22 seconds per game means he doesn't "kill" penalties. Even though I'm sure his numbers are a little more than 22 seconds since he only started killing penalties 5-6 (if not a little later) games into the season. But doesn't count because Leafs #1 fan @Rhaegar Targaryen said so.

Jan 30th vs EDM - 0:00 SH TOI
Feb 4th vs VAN - 0:08 SH TOI
Feb 6th vs VAN - 0:24 SH TOI
Feb 8th vs VAN - 0:10 SH TOI
Feb 10th vs MTL - 0:44 SH TOI
Feb 13th vs MTL - 0:00 SH TOI (no penalties)

Those are Matthews’ PK time on ice in Games 10-15, his most recent six games. Taking out tonight vs Montreal, because of no opportunity to PK, that works out to ~17 seconds per game over that span.

I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that Matthews is PKing more, or even really PKing at all, but it must be in your head. He’s not winning a Selke anytime soon.

 

[nobody]

Jan 30th vs EDM - 0:00 SH TOI
Feb 4th vs VAN - 0:08 SH TOI
Feb 6th vs VAN - 0:24 SH TOI
Feb 8th vs VAN - 0:10 SH TOI
Feb 10th vs MTL - 0:44 SH TOI
Feb 13th vs MTL - 0:00 SH TOI (no penalties)

Those are Matthews’ PK time on ice in Games 10-15, his most recent six games. Taking out tonight vs Montreal, because of no opportunity to PK, that works out to ~17 seconds per game over that span.

I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that Matthews is PKing more, or even really PKing at all, but it must be in your head. He’s not winning a Selke anytime soon.

Fair enough. I think you have reading problems? I'm not sure where anyone mentioned him winning a Selke? All that time in Leafs threads is really straining your eyes it seems. I do appreciate your support for our Buds though. We need more superfans like you! ♥ ♥

 

[Kunta Kinte]

It really took Marner 5 seasons to score vs the Habs ? Wtf.

 

[LeafsNation75]

It really took Marner 5 seasons to score vs the Habs ? Wtf.

Auston Matthews had also not scored a goal against Calgary until this season, although the difference is Toronto only played them 2x each season compared to 4x in a normal season against Montreal. So it was surprising to know that Marner had not scored a goal against them until last night.

 

[nobody]

It really took Marner 5 seasons to score vs the Habs ? Wtf.

Marner hasn't really been a goal scorer so the fact that he's had a goal against every team in the NHL now is far more impressive than anything else. The Matthews vs Calgary one is a more surprising thing than this.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Marner hasn't really been a goal scorer so the fact that he's had a goal against every team in the NHL now is far more impressive than anything else. The Matthews vs Calgary one is a more surprising thing than this.

If you compare the goals Marner has scored against the other Atlantic Division teams besides Montreal here is the breakdown.

5 Goals in 14 games against Boston
5 Goals in 15 games against Buffalo
4 Goals in 14 games against Detroit
7 Goals in 16 games against Florida
7 Goals in 16 games against Ottawa
3 Goals in 15 games against Tampa Bay

Mitch Marner Career Splits | Hockey-Reference.com

 

[Dache]

Math major?

I don’t think you need to be do you? 4 x 60 = 240 + 50 = 290 / 14 = 20.7

 

[Leaf Fans]

According the NHL... barely

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Barely means he does.

 

[Lshap]

Fair enough. I think you have reading problems? I'm not sure where anyone mentioned him winning a Selke? All that time in Leafs threads is really straining your eyes it seems. I do appreciate your support for our Buds though. We need more superfans like you! ♥ ♥

FYI, you may want to audit your own posts:

I said Selke contention. His play has been absolutely stellar and the Toronto media hype machine is definitely going to get him into the top 3 if he keeps this up. Not saying he wins it but he's definitely getting a ton of love.

He's been an absolute monster this year. I'm telling everyone here to be prepared when he gets a Selke nomination. People are going to bitch and moan but the way things are going right now, we're headed that way.

When you call a player "Top 3 for the Selke" and then tell everyone to "Be prepared when he gets a Selke nomination", you're proclaiming him to be a potential winner.

And by the way, this isn't a Leafs thread. It's about the Canadian division.

 

[sharks9]

Big win for MTL to keep Toronto from building too big of a lead in the division. Ottawa and Vancouver winning is pretty helpful for us as well. Now if the Sens can win 3 in a row vs. the Leafs that'd be REALLY great!

 

[BlueBaron]

Big win for MTL to keep Toronto from building too big of a lead in the division. Ottawa and Vancouver winning is pretty helpful for us as well. Now if the Sens can win 3 in a row vs. the Leafs that'd be REALLY great!

It was a big win for you guys. Ended a mini slump while winning a 4 point game. Montreal seems to have a talent for shutting down stars. Even the Oiler duo struggle to get points against Montreal this year. So nice for our oldest rival and us to be so competitive at the same time. We were both giving Boston too much attention .

God I hope we meet in the playoffs.

Good game last night.

 

[Blowfish]

Jet fans ... I think many were anxious to see Dubois . Why hasn't the team played better? Thought for certain he would bring them a big edge.