WC: Canada 2019 roster (Who will go in Slovakia ?)

[JackSlater]

Why doesn't Canada play a couple of pre-tournament games vs USA? They have an international sized arena in Calgary, and I bet, they would sell it out for any number of games, earning some money for Hockey Canada and making fans happy.

It's a good idea if it would work, but the players sometimes complain that the tournament is too long as it is. Hockey Canada likely doesn't want to add more length.

 

[Retroglyphs]

First practice was yesterday in Vienna. 1 week 1 pre-tournament game. and that's all that is needed.

... when you set the bar low.

 

[Nexon]

It's a good idea if it would work, but the players sometimes complain that the tournament is too long as it is. Hockey Canada likely doesn't want to add more length.

Well they may organize with players who are willing to have some extra time on big ice, besides many players are long gone, not reaching play-off. And one additional week of training isn’t too much, especially when the tourney starts one week later this year. At least half of players certainly had enough time to rest.

 

[Faterson]

because this tournament just isn't that important

Except it's the most important international hockey event of the year, with a history almost as long, rich and prestigious as the Stanley Cup. Go figure... sometimes it's truly baffling to observe the insular thinking of (some? most? certainly not all) North Americans.

 

[JackSlater]

Well they may organize with players who are willing to have some extra time on big ice, besides many players are long gone, not reaching play-off. And one additional week of training isn’t too much, especially when the tourney starts one week later this year. At least half of players certainly had enough time to rest.

The quality of the players selected would go down further. Probably all of the players with families would say no. Bad idea.

Except it's the most important international hockey event of the year, with a history almost as long, rich and prestigious as the Stanley Cup. Go figure... sometimes it's truly baffling to observe the insular thinking of (some? most? certainly not all) North Americans.

It's not particularly important. You can like it all you want though.

 

[Faterson]

It's not particularly important. You can like it all you want though.

It's very important. You can dismiss it all you want though.

See? It's all a matter of perspective. I'm just baffled by the North American perspective, that's all. (To be observed in many other things, too, not just in hockey.)

Given that the arena in Bratislava is within walking distance from where I live, I'd like for as many stars as possible to get here. Russia is sending a near-Olympic strength all-star team here. That's nice. The US squad isn't bad, either. Too bad about Canada, although Tavares, Stone et al. are nothing to sneeze at.

 

[Khokhlach86]

Team

Lines (Saturday practice)

Henrique Couturier Reinhart
Marchessault Strome Stone
Mantha Turris McCann
Joseph Bertuzzi Cirelli

Chabot - Montour
Nurse - Severson
Theodore - Stecher
Fabbro - (Dorion)

Murray
Blackwood
Hart

 

[Bear12Good]

Dorion??? Pierre Dorion)))

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Dorion??? Pierre Dorion)))

 

[JackSlater]

It's very important. You can dismiss it all you want though.

See? It's all a matter of perspective. I'm just baffled by the North American perspective, that's all. (To be observed in many other things, too, not just in hockey.)

Given that the arena in Bratislava is within walking distance from where I live, I'd like for as many stars as possible to get here. Russia is sending a near-Olympic strength all-star team here. That's nice. The US squad isn't bad, either. Too bad about Canada, although Tavares, Stone et al. are nothing to sneeze at.

I can understand why you would want it to have the best players - the tournament would be better if it did. I understand why Europeans often exaggerate the importance of the tournament, though most here have come around on that and are more willing to acknowledge it for what it is. Being old and popular in Europe doesn't make something important, but it is important for the IIHF to present it as such. In many sports the best compete for the world championship. In hockey that really isn't the case and never has been (arguably 2005 being the exception) which is unfortunate but true.

Team

Lines (Saturday practice)

Henrique Couturier Reinhart
Marchessault Strome Stone
Mantha Turris McCann
Joseph Bertuzzi Cirelli

Chabot - Montour
Nurse - Severson
Theodore - Stecher
Fabbro - (Dorion)

Murray
Blackwood
Hart

Looks about right. Cirelli should be the centre on that fourth line. I assume that Tavares would take Strome's spot, and maybe Strome is centre of the fourth line with Bertuzzi as 13th forward.

 

[jj cale]

It's very important. You can dismiss it all you want though.

See? It's all a matter of perspective. I'm just baffled by the North American perspective, that's all. (To be observed in many other things, too, not just in hockey.)

Given that the arena in Bratislava is within walking distance from where I live, I'd like for as many stars as possible to get here. Russia is sending a near-Olympic strength all-star team here. That's nice. The US squad isn't bad, either. Too bad about Canada, although Tavares, Stone et al. are nothing to sneeze at.

It's not important at all here, if you guys have a storied rich history with it and value it highly that's fine and we do not look down upon you because of it or begrudge you that but that does not mean it has to be that way here and it isn't.

It's a neat little thing to win for us and that's about as far as it goes, far from make or break, Europe is not the world and we don't base our attitudes on what you guys value and Europe does not base theirs on what we value.

It is quite something to demand someone value something because you do.

 

[garbageteam]

It's not the best but close enough. A lot of it is in people's heads and value isn't intrinsic but how you ascribe to it, unless you care a lot about finding friends to watch sports with I'm not sure why how important other people consider an event to be matters.

If my team is still in the POs (meaning, CFs or SCF) I don't really pay attention to this tournament, but since that rarely happens to most people as by that time only four teams remain, I'm often a bit amused at how this tournament gets dismissed while the POs are still watched. Players are playing for a heck of a lot less money for your country. The hockey is still good. Some teams in the tournament are as good as those still in the playoffs. Some players in this tournament are better than most still remaining in the playoffs by the time this starts. There's probably as much NHL representation at the Worlds when it starts (four teams worth of players) than when Round 3 of the playoffs begin.

So, while I don't tell people what to watch, I don't believe the argument that the hockey here is much weaker or worse to watch than the last two rounds of the POs. At least there's something to root for in watching besides lining Jeremy Jacobs' pockets. (of course as mentioned, exemptions to those whose teams are still in the playoffs! No argument that that is the more important tournament).

 

[london flyer]

if they really want to make it better and get better participation from north american players... then move the tourney to june when more players are available.....or even better maybe have it as the all star break in the nhl....that way the best could go and others could form nhl allstar teams

 

[JackSlater]

if they really want to make it better and get better participation from north american players... then move the tourney to june when more players are available.....or even better maybe have it as the all star break in the nhl....that way the best could go and others could form nhl allstar teams

I don't think that more players would go if it was in June. The players are into their summer training by that point. No thanks to NHL gimmick teams against actual international teams as well.

 

[Nexon]

if they really want to make it better and get better participation from north american players... then move the tourney to june when more players are available.....or even better maybe have it as the all star break in the nhl....that way the best could go and others could form nhl allstar teams

That would not work, I would like to remind you that at the time when this tourney starts, there will just 4 teams still in PO. Meaning 90% of players will be available, so basically whoever wants to can show up from eliminated teams.

Postpone it to June would not work either, at the time half of NHL players will be on holidays for more than 2 months and really cannot see that guys with families will come from Seychelles just to show up. By the way ice hockey is winter sport and June with its temperates around 25 just doesn’t feel right, it’s like playing football in snowy cold conditions, although it’s indoor, one just doesn’t have mood to spent a day in ice hall when there is shiny weather outside and you feel like doing outdoor activities more in that part of year.

IIHF is already doing a favour to NHL with its May date. There is no solution to keep both sides satisfied. I don’t want to insult you or something but your second idea is unbelievably dumb. NHL will naturally never allow that since it has been cashing millions events like this, why the hell would they divide this fortune with other organisation while it’s working splendidly the way it is right now?

 

[Gold Standard]

NYI out and Avs/SLB on the brink. I hope Hockey Canada is still open to adding a few significant players (if they (players) are willing) and send a few already there home.

 

[JackSlater]

NYI out and Avs/SLB on the brink. I hope Hockey Canada is still open to adding a few significant players (if they (players) are willing) and send a few already there home.

You can't send guys home once they've been offered a spot and accepted it. A bad practice that could sour potential future participants, and the potential reward for adding a difference maker isn't very significant anyway.

 

[Bear12Good]

NYI out and Avs/SLB on the brink. I hope Hockey Canada is still open to adding a few significant players (if they (players) are willing) and send a few already there home.

like Russians did)
Hockey Russia always use this tactic)

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Get North]

Strome should be in the pressbox, way too slow for the big ice and we don't really have fast enough forwards to cover for a guy like that. I'm confident Vigneault will do a good job coaching this team, he was coaching ahead of his years in 2011. The defence has really good mobility, that can be a great advantage against more skilled teams.

 

[Namejs]

You can't send guys home once they've been offered a spot and accepted it. A bad practice that could sour potential future participants, and the potential reward for adding a difference maker isn't very significant anyway.

That's what every team does lol

Why would anyone play a 20 point scrub, if you have a bunch of PPG players available

 

[JackSlater]

That's what every team does lol

Why would anyone play a 20 point scrub, if you have a bunch of PPG players available

It's not what Canada has ever done (I doubt USA has done it either) and a tournament of this level isn't the time to start.

 

[Gold Standard]

It's not what Canada has ever done (I doubt USA has done it either) and a tournament of this level isn't the time to start.

I think you're making it out to be a bigger deal than it actually is. It's a part of the business in which they are in and have had to deal with it their entire careers.

but hey, I'd be selective about how I would go about it. Fabbro would get the benefit of the doubt, McCann would be out and sent packing if I thought I could get another player in here (Barzal) in time for Friday. Fabbro has a future with Team Canada at this tournament for sure. McCann? who gives a shit.

This is what Hockey Canada wastes its time and resources on. Convincing Shane Doan to give up riding horses on his ranch in Arizona to fly him over to offer words of advice and encouragement.




Well, at least he's still showing up in retirement. He played in this tournament lots...never really was particularly all that good in any of them except for 1, perhaps 2.

Hope he brought his good luck lucky loonie.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Strome should be in the pressbox, way too slow for the big ice and we don't really have fast enough forwards to cover for a guy like that. I'm confident Vigneault will do a good job coaching this team, he was coaching ahead of his years in 2011. The defence has really good mobility, that can be a great advantage against more skilled teams.

You are so wrong.