dwright5314
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It really seems like it will come down to a competition between Studnicka, Veleno and Dellandrea for that fourth line. Seems like 2 of the 3 will make it. How do people handicap that battle?
WJC: Canada 2019 Roster Talk
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Half Clapper
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Canada4Gold
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will be? Why does that matter unless you're referring to 1 month into the future? 17 year olds rarely make it for Canada, just the way it is.
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Velenos recent offense would put him in the lead I think. Studnicka had a really good summer camp so I might have him a bit ahead of Dellandrea. Hard with Dellandrea on sucha bad team though, its a battle that will be won in camp
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So with 19 guys invited to camp, what you're suggesting is that you think he's the 14th or 15th best player at camp? AKA one of the last forward cuts? So it shouldn't matter in the end?
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I'll weigh in on some of the QMJHL players as I am familiar with them, having seen each of them play at various times in person over the years.
Beaudin: Really smart player, strong passer and makes quick decisions. Small and just fine defensively. May not be necessary for this team given some of the other options.
Dobson: Was great last year, is unfortunately stuck in limbo this year. I think he's probably the most talented defenceman available to the team, all things considered. Doesn't have any real weakness other than weight, but that shouldn't be a problem at the junior level. Smart player who doesn't blow you away in one area but doesn't take anything off the table. Could play pretty much any role for Canada.
Joseph: Really good defensive player, good skater and long limbs arms are a good defensive asset. Limited offensively but he's aware of that and won't try anything that causes problems for his own team. Should be a good complementary player.
McIsaac: Brings a different skillset than most of the other defencemen. Strong player, smart but not aggressive offensively, good defensively. Also likely a good complement on the left side. He's likely in competition with Beaudin. If I wanted a number one defenceman I would go with Beaudin. If I wanted a defenceman to complement another player on my third pairing and take some PK minutes, I'd go with McIsaac. I don't think that he's got a whole lot offensively, even though his shot is hard, but he puts up decent numbers being on a loaded team in Halifax.
Comtois: A lock for the team. Smart, skilled player and the biggest physical threat on Canada. Can play either wing and could fit in on any conceivable line.
Lafreniere: Really smart player, maybe the best hands on the team. Great puck protector even at 17. As a winger you would like to see him shoot more, but I think that he can adapt to playing with a playmaking centre like Glass and could be a big goal threat. Well rounded offensive player.
Lavoie: Big, goal scoring winger. Really natural winger. A good type of player for Canada, but he likely isn't good enough this year, with a deep pool of wing candidates. I find him pretty streaky in terms of engagement.
Veleno: Really well rounded player in that he can play as an offensive centre but also can play PK and play a very responsible game on a lower line. My only issue with Veleno is that he can be a passive player. If he is playing aggressively he is pretty much all that you'd want in a fourth line centre for Canada at this tournament. If he's playing passively then he's likely to drop down to the 13th forward spot and make no difference at all. For what it's worth he's been on fire lately. Even though Comtois is back I don't think that there is any reason to consider any potential chemistry between the two as a benefit for Veleno.
Beaudin: Really smart player, strong passer and makes quick decisions. Small and just fine defensively. May not be necessary for this team given some of the other options.
Dobson: Was great last year, is unfortunately stuck in limbo this year. I think he's probably the most talented defenceman available to the team, all things considered. Doesn't have any real weakness other than weight, but that shouldn't be a problem at the junior level. Smart player who doesn't blow you away in one area but doesn't take anything off the table. Could play pretty much any role for Canada.
Joseph: Really good defensive player, good skater and long limbs arms are a good defensive asset. Limited offensively but he's aware of that and won't try anything that causes problems for his own team. Should be a good complementary player.
McIsaac: Brings a different skillset than most of the other defencemen. Strong player, smart but not aggressive offensively, good defensively. Also likely a good complement on the left side. He's likely in competition with Beaudin. If I wanted a number one defenceman I would go with Beaudin. If I wanted a defenceman to complement another player on my third pairing and take some PK minutes, I'd go with McIsaac. I don't think that he's got a whole lot offensively, even though his shot is hard, but he puts up decent numbers being on a loaded team in Halifax.
Comtois: A lock for the team. Smart, skilled player and the biggest physical threat on Canada. Can play either wing and could fit in on any conceivable line.
Lafreniere: Really smart player, maybe the best hands on the team. Great puck protector even at 17. As a winger you would like to see him shoot more, but I think that he can adapt to playing with a playmaking centre like Glass and could be a big goal threat. Well rounded offensive player.
Lavoie: Big, goal scoring winger. Really natural winger. A good type of player for Canada, but he likely isn't good enough this year, with a deep pool of wing candidates. I find him pretty streaky in terms of engagement.
Veleno: Really well rounded player in that he can play as an offensive centre but also can play PK and play a very responsible game on a lower line. My only issue with Veleno is that he can be a passive player. If he is playing aggressively he is pretty much all that you'd want in a fourth line centre for Canada at this tournament. If he's playing passively then he's likely to drop down to the 13th forward spot and make no difference at all. For what it's worth he's been on fire lately. Even though Comtois is back I don't think that there is any reason to consider any potential chemistry between the two as a benefit for Veleno.
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He should have been invited. I wouldn't be that upset if he didn't make it on the final roster, but to not be invited is laughable.
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Is Dach really a guy you want playing on the 4th line? I have no issues with him not being on this team
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Comtois-Glass-Tippett*
Formenton-Suzuki-Mattheos
Lafreniere-Hayton-Morand
Frost-Dellandrea*-Leason*
Vilardi*
Rasmussen*
JAD*
Joseph-Bouchard
Smith-Dobson
McIssac-Addison
Brook
Scott
Dipietro
Formenton-Suzuki-Mattheos
Lafreniere-Hayton-Morand
Frost-Dellandrea*-Leason*
Vilardi*
Rasmussen*
JAD*
Joseph-Bouchard
Smith-Dobson
McIssac-Addison
Brook
Scott
Dipietro
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DudeWhereIsMakar
Bergevin sent me an offer sheet
Rob
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Team Canada is really lucky Anaheim sent him back down as I think he could have stuck with the team. Could be the best player for us this year.
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Don't be stat watching on Dobson this year. His team sucks. He will be a lynch pin on this teams D.
I think we see Dobson, Bouchard, Brook as the top 3RD , and one of Mitchell or JBD as the 7th D
Smith Dobson
McIsaac Bouchard
Joseph Brook
7th one of Mitchell/JBD
Veleno will definitely be in the top 9 forwards
I would not be surprised to see Formenton and Comtois together again; Actually
Formenton Veleno Comtois would be a great line
I think we see Dobson, Bouchard, Brook as the top 3RD , and one of Mitchell or JBD as the 7th D
Smith Dobson
McIsaac Bouchard
Joseph Brook
7th one of Mitchell/JBD
Veleno will definitely be in the top 9 forwards
I would not be surprised to see Formenton and Comtois together again; Actually
Formenton Veleno Comtois would be a great line
From the surgery that JAD had on November 5th, 2018 in California, It is very unlikely that he can recovers by Dec 15th-18th to practise and start shooting the puck like normal.
Missing the first week of camp and then possibly all the way to Dec 25th, i doubt that he is 100% ready. If a player is not 100% ready, he should not be selected, but HC is too nice so they will give him an opportunity.
Missing the first week of camp and then possibly all the way to Dec 25th, i doubt that he is 100% ready. If a player is not 100% ready, he should not be selected, but HC is too nice so they will give him an opportunity.
This year team will not be as quick as last year team by a tiny bit. This is by comparing the forwards, line by line.
Speed Comparison
L1 Dube(fast) Steel Kyrou (fast) > Formenton(fast) Vilardi Suzuki
L2 Katchouk Thomas Raddysh = Lafreniere Glass Tippett
L3 Formenton (fast) Howden Comtois (fast) = Foudy(fast) Hayton Comtois(fast)
L4 Steenbergen McLeod Batherson = Bowers Studnicka Leason
Gadjovich (slow) < Dellandrea/Entwistle
Clague Timmins = Smith Bouchard
Mete (fast) Fabbro > Joseph Mitchell
Makar (fast) Foote > McIsaac Dobson
Bean (slow) < Brook
Last year team 1st line was very quick. So it will tough to set up the same line with similar speed and talent. Line 2 is match-able if you have the Glass Line. Line 3 are comparable since they similar players. Line 4, i am trying to assemble similar players compared to last year team in terms of speed and styles of play. The 13th forward for this year is definitely better than last.
On Defense, last year team is definitely quicker with players like Mete and Makar carrying the pucks out the defensive zone. So, if you have some ideas to assemble players for this year team to make it faster and more skilled, please drop a line.
PS, before you do that, please ensure that you watch the players' videos first and analyze them carefully before you write your analysis. Please do write OBJECTIVELY and provide evidence as we do not want to waste time on personal opinions.
Speed Comparison
L1 Dube(fast) Steel Kyrou (fast) > Formenton(fast) Vilardi Suzuki
L2 Katchouk Thomas Raddysh = Lafreniere Glass Tippett
L3 Formenton (fast) Howden Comtois (fast) = Foudy(fast) Hayton Comtois(fast)
L4 Steenbergen McLeod Batherson = Bowers Studnicka Leason
Gadjovich (slow) < Dellandrea/Entwistle
Clague Timmins = Smith Bouchard
Mete (fast) Fabbro > Joseph Mitchell
Makar (fast) Foote > McIsaac Dobson
Bean (slow) < Brook
Last year team 1st line was very quick. So it will tough to set up the same line with similar speed and talent. Line 2 is match-able if you have the Glass Line. Line 3 are comparable since they similar players. Line 4, i am trying to assemble similar players compared to last year team in terms of speed and styles of play. The 13th forward for this year is definitely better than last.
On Defense, last year team is definitely quicker with players like Mete and Makar carrying the pucks out the defensive zone. So, if you have some ideas to assemble players for this year team to make it faster and more skilled, please drop a line.
PS, before you do that, please ensure that you watch the players' videos first and analyze them carefully before you write your analysis. Please do write OBJECTIVELY and provide evidence as we do not want to waste time on personal opinions.
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Good and enjoyable analysis. Its surprising that this simple and effective approach is not the starting point in every team management's selection process. If it was, horrible mistakes in personnel decisions could, in most cases, be avoided. While in some cases, the better skater is not the better player, the one thing in hockey you never want to be is to be caught slow. Hockey can be a very frustrating sport. If you can't skate with the opposing team you won't be able to execute offensively or defensively. You will spend most of the time in your own end, and you will generally lose. Teams just love playing against slower teams. Its so easy to play hockey against a slower team. So, rule one is simple: don't get caught slow. Select players that can compete with the level of speed that you know they will be facing. If you fail to do that, the mistake is on the selectors. If those type of players are not available, the mistake is on the hockey development system that is supposedly producing elite level players.
From watching the recently completed Russia Super series it is my assessment that the forwards available for this year's Team Canada will have median level of speed as good as most recent teams that have represented the country at the WJC. While there are no game breaking superstars, if the right players are selected, they should provide enough offensive push to compete with the other elite teams at the championship. As I noted earlier, some players who sport lofty statistics in their junior leagues, will leave the tournament with tarnished reputations as the limitations in their skating abilities are exposed against the glare of better competition. It happens every year. So its the task of management to have the foresight and insight not to be blinded by reputation and understand that what a certain player has accomplished in the OHL, etc. may not translate well when playing against the U.S., Swedes, etc. who will be coming at us at 100 mph. There will be no time or space to execute or create offensive initiatives unless that player has the mobility to create that time and space for themselves. If there is any doubt that a player under consideration can create such time and space, you don't choose him. You don't wait until the third game to come to the awful realization that the player can't compete because of a deficit in his skating ability. You do not want to be caught slow.
It is the defence that gives me the greatest pause. Aside from Dobson, I saw no defenceman that I could say has elite or superior skating ability. They're all good players and most will play professionally at some level, but as a collective, I find it one of the weaker groups of defence that we have sent to the junior championship in recent years. I may be wrong. And I hope I am. But when you look at the defence that the U.S. or the Swedes will be fielding, I think most will agree that the defence will be the Achilles Heal of this version of Team Canada. In this writers opinion, it will be the forwards that will give Canada the greatest chance of repeating as champions and that their excellence will hopefully mask the obvious limitations of the team's defence.
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Agreed its a strong roster and all of the bolded would be of age to play again next year
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